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Ok so what is the back story on this? Why is Mac Haik and Canton fighting this? I just recently moved to the Gluckstadt area and am trying to figure out what’s going on.

We still need to boycott these asshats. They rode into town on a Texas mule knowing incorporation was a project in the works. Then they protested and fought it in court at three levels, claiming they needed to be carved out of the incorporation effort. Supreme is correct! Supreme arrogance on display!

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Gluckstadt is the garden spot of Madison County (full disclosure...I live there) and should be a city. Mac Haik does not want to pay city taxes and Canton is a cesspool. Gluckstadt has a bright future WITHOUT either of them!

"I own a car dealership. This is MY town!"

Sounds like that guy from Road House. We need a bouncer with a degree from NYU to fight this.

Those orders on interlocutory appeal appear to only involve the threshold issue of jurisdiction. The parties will continue to fight this one out at chancery and then get a bite at the apple again on appeal of the entire case. This one probably isn't close to being finished.

YES boycott Mac Haik in "Gluckstadt". I live and work in the proposed city of Gluckstadt and would love to see the incorporation happen. I have personally talked to Mac when he was in town before and he is a nothing but a big phony. I hate that he has come to town and attempted to ruin what all the locals have worked so hard to accomplish and are so passionate about. Would much rather have a local family owning those two new dealerships but for now I will never set foot in either one.

@8:36 Mac Haik doesn't want to be in Canton or Gluckstadt. They want to remain in the county so that their property taxes will be cheaper. So they are fighting both the Canton annexation and the Gluckstadt incorporation.

Canton is fighting Gluckstadt because Canton wants to annex the Mac Haik area in order to get the addtional tax revenues. Keep in mind that the C-store where the Your Pie Pizza is located is already in the Canton city limits.

So both Gluckstadt and Canton want the commercial area where Callaways, Mac Haik, Capitol Body Shop currently lie. But Haik wants to remain in the county.

Attn 8:37 That "Asshat" Mac Haik grew up and played football in Meridian, then went on to star at Ole Miss before playing very well for the Houston Oilers.

@8:37, going to Ole Miss does not make you not an asshat-see Hugh Freezus.

That's a slap in the face to Gluckstadtians. Mac Haik wanted to move up there to take advantage of the people and their money and make a profit off of them, but don't want to pay the taxes for the benefit. Canton, they just want white people taxes, or people who pay taxes in general.

Mac Haik was able to obtain his off-site signage for his dealerships despite the political efforts to stop him. I wouldn't count him out just yet.

Doesn't hurt when you hire the attorney of the swing vote supervisor who just happens to owe same attorney a bunch of money.

9:57AM wrote, "Attn 8:37 That "Asshat" Mac Haik grew up and played football in Meridian, then went on to star at Ole Miss before playing very well for the Houston Oilers."

Oh, lawdy, the Ole Miss football connection certainly makes him almost as much a saint as the Rev. Hugh...well, before he got caught, er, um, "spiking it in the wrong end zone," so to speak. OK, OK, so the NFL connection is his saving grace. I mean, just look at Aaron Herna...never mind. Well, there's always Michael Vic...scratch that, too. Well, he is from Mississippi and everyone knows that all Mississippi businessmen are among the most honest guys around. Look at that Lamar Ada...nope. Well, that's all I got - you "Haik ain't an asshat" folks are on your own.

10:16, I don't have a dog in this fight so really don't care, but wouldn't it be Gluckstadters instead of Gluckstadtians?

Gluckstadt is incorporating the wrong areas. Its a handful of neighborhoods and bunch of commercial (sales tax revenue). They need to grab more residential and get control of the zoning before it turns into a community of 10,000 starter houses. They are half way there already.

It's not lost on me that the mascot for his chain of dealerships is 'The Mac Haik Peacock'. What better to represent this strutting fool. Google Mac Haik. He's a billionaire who has sued more people and been sued by more people than most people on earth.

And the only reason he got his 'off site monument sign' approved is that Bishop (who shares a lawyer with Haik) pushed that through the Board of Supervisors at the request of their mutual attorney.

It's noteworthy, however, that the State Dept of Transportation refused his request to erect highway billboards behind his property on the interstate since there are already more than enough there. It's also noteworthy that the city of Canton made his people take down the Haik signage inside the Canton city limits. His banners at the dealership still fly illegally (in violation of county ordinance).

11:06, annexation 101: do not annex residential. That is where “voters” reside. Annex only commercial if possible and avoid all residential. You want revenue without muckrakers, complainers and tea partier jackasses who hate government (unless it’s government designed to benefit them personally).

C.f., Gary Rhoads.

10:16, I don't have a dog in this fight so really don't care, but wouldn't it be Gluckstadters instead of Gluckstadtians?

Or Gluckstadtonian.

Or a plain old Glucker.

Gluckolions?

If Mac Haik, don’t like it, him and his peacock can pack up and get the hell out of Dodge....get it....Dodge?

"'10:16, I don't have a dog in this fight so really don't care, but wouldn't it be Gluckstadters instead of Gluckstadtians?'

Or Gluckstadtonian.

Or a plain old Glucker."

Well, it seems pretty clear that "Gluckstafarians" is out, but if this goes down, maybe "Gluckables" would work.

And as an aside, I tried to help those "Haik ain't an asshat" folks (see above), but it appears that in many cases, Ole Miss alum status, playing in the NFL and even being a MS businessman just doesn't mitigate "asshat."

Potential family member in the market for a Jeep product. I refuse to do business with any Mac Haik dealership due to their actions regarding Gluckstadt incorporation fight. I don't live in the affected area but have seen the current area and it's somewhat of an eyesore. I have a real problem with fighting folks who are trying to make their community better through incorporation.

I don't normally like to correct people on the Internet, but "Pain Don't Hurt" @ 9:07 didn't watch "Road House" closely enough. Dalton is NOT a bouncer. He's a COOLER - he's the guy you call when the bouncer can't handle it. Ben Gazzara, if he were still with us, would do a great Mac Haik, I'm sure.

@2:14pm You are correct, Dalton is a cooler. And he ain't no ordinary cooler...he's a $400 cooler with T-Rex Lid Latches and Permafrost insulation.

Excuse me while I go plaster DALTON stickers on the back of my pick-em-up truck.

Be nice.

I vote for Gluckers, or Gluckheads, or Glucknozzles, or Gluckbuckets, or (for the ladies)...Mother Gluckers.

So a businessman wants to locate his business where his taxes will be less and a city wants to increase its tax revenue. They both argue their positions in court and one side wins. What’s the problem?

Gluckite

@5:45

Long before Mac Haik bought this property and decided to build there it was common knowledge that the Gluckstadt area wanted to incorporate and that this property was included in their plans. He doesn't have a leg to stand on. I do not live in Gluckstadt but once they incorporate I may consider moving there. They are trying to do things correctly and not just land grab as Byram did.

Gluckons. Like Klingons on Star Trek. Then they could take out Haik with a couple of photon torpedoes.

we start small, them when we win, we annex everything between Canton And Madison, then we be big town with lota a taxes.

Canton cant provide services to that they currently have annexed much less the city. The Sheriff's department has to help patrol canton. As far as CMU goes its just swirling around the bowl while the Blackmons, Truly and Kenny Wayne line their pockets. The citys infrastructure is starting to show its age just like Jackson.

Glucksomburg - The Storage Building Capitol of North America. Be in town early, as Bob Dylan might say.

When Haik has to lay off Bishop and Steen, the building will make an interesting storage facility. Even Mary would be proud.

St. Catherine’s did the same thing, help us by building a water tower, sewer, water lines. The city and county did that then said oh by the way we are the church and tax exempt. The county helped the dealership locate there and now we don’t want to pay any local taxes but protect us if Canton tries to get us. My take is that Canton an established municipality which already is within striking distance will annex the area. Gluckstadt trying to rush and annex an area is going to be an uphill battle since they were not already a municipality at the time Canton filed to annex the area. If that happens then watch out as the home values collapse.

Incorporating an unincorporated area is about empire building, rice bowls, and creating another bureaucracy. All of this has to be funded via tax increases.

Don't be giddy fools. Don't incorporate.

Hmmm...Bob Dylan and a rich, Ole Miss supporting, car-shilling peacock (who may or may not be an asshat, too)...that seems like quite a... Gluckstaposition...

@6:43 You are correct. Let's talk about Canton providing services. Canton currently has the C-store at the NE corner of Church Road and Calhoun Parkway in the city limits. What services do they provide there? Entergy has the electric (not CMU). Centerpoint or Atmos has the gas (not CMU). Bear Creek Water Association has both the water and sewer (not CMU). I have never seen a Canton Police car there in my life (I have seen plenty of Deputies though). The C-store has a dumpster, so Canton doesn't pick up garbage. Canton isn't repairing Church Road or Calhoun Parkway. So Canton is collecting taxes and providing nothing.

Gluckups.

To compare Canton's infrasturture to Jackson's is unfair. Canton police do work that corner Chruch and C.Station. Whenever their is an accident there, the entire police force of 3 cars can be seen flying down 55,lights flashing and sirens. They usually send a fire truck or 2 too. This leaves the majority of the city unprotected for hours.

Haha, you know the best thing about these Canton / Gluckstadt annexation comments? Half of you that live in Gluckstadt haven't been in Madison Co. for say more than 10 years, maybe 15 and yet, you would think y'all are historians for Madison Co. Madison is the jewel of Madison Co, and there is no comparison. Ridgeland has its VERY NICE parts, but some ok, and bad parts as well. Canton, has things you can't just go build, see the Square for example. And basically majority of the city east of the square is still doing very good.Now, the west side of Canton, tucked between I-55 and the square, well, that is just as bad as it gets! Gluckstadt tho, your in the county, your acting like snobs, and and your trying to "pick and choose" what you want and dont want to annex. Mac Haik is trying to avoid taxes! Sayyyyy whattttt, how dare they!

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I tried to deal with Hiak years ago but walked out after dealing with the their sales bullshit practices.

July 24 @ 7:17am

the county didn't help the business relocate. the dealership had started to move from canton to where it is now before Mac bought it. It was formerly Harreld Chevrolet and is situated on land that was owned by John Harreld.

@7:17 has no clue what is going on in this particular situation.

@8:24 is correct. As we all know, the Harreld family has land all over Madison Co. They wanted to keep the delearship in Canton but Canton wouldn’t give them X amount of years tax exempt to build a new location on 55. So, that is why they moved to Gluckstadt on Harreld property to avoid the taxes.

@7:17 is actually pretty correct here. What he stated is what is worrying a lot of Gluckstadt residents and why Canton filed when they did.

The attorney for Haik stated more than once in court "my client does not want to be in a city, nor does he want to pay city taxes"

His client knew well in advance all the land purchased in Gluckstadt was in the proposed boundaries. Someone did their research. The unknown was how far City of Canton would attempt to annex in their filing in courts in early 2017.

Haik will be in a city one day.
The bad PR Haik is getting must be worth it.....

Why do the people in Madison county want industry in the county, then when it comes try to exploit that industry? I hope you don't think multiple tax breaks aren't
still in effect for the Nissan plant. I don't have a problem if Haik pays the same tax rate as the previous owner paid, at least for some time, if this company HIRED one tax payer more than was here before him. It is almost like the small town getting excited about the railroad coming through their town. When asked why they were excited, the response was "because now we can sue them".

ALL 3 MAC HAIK DEALERSHIPS ARE FOR SALE NOW................MAY HE LEAVE MISSISSIPPI KNOWING HE IS A FAILURE AND WE DONT LIKE HIM

the county didn't help the business relocate. the dealership had started to move from canton to where it is now before Mac bought it. It was formerly Harreld Chevrolet and is situated on land that was owned by John Harreld.@8:24 is correct. As we all know, the Harreld family has land all over Madison Co. They wanted to keep the delearship in Canton but Canton wouldn’t give them X amount of years tax exempt to build a new location on 55. So, that is why they moved to Gluckstadt on Harreld property to avoid the taxes.The attorney for Haik stated more than once in court "my client does not want to be in a city, nor does he want to pay city taxes"

His client knew well in advance all the land purchased in Gluckstadt was in the proposed boundaries. Someone did their research. The unknown was how far City of Canton would attempt to annex in their filing in courts in early 2017.

If the Harreld family ever flips and starts contributing to David Bishop, this whole place has gone to shit! And it will take more than Sheila and the Junior Auxiliary to defeat it.

John Elway has auto dealerships and never caused these problems. So did Deuce McAllister (but he went belly up). Then there's Cannon Motors, that also has some real tight football connections up the road. Only Haik, who nobody ever heard of, causes these issues.