Thursday, October 1, 2015

Socrates defends minority set-aside contracts

Socrates Garrett defended minority set-aside contracts in this Youtube video.  The video was recorded at a business development conference.

Meanwhile, a group of black ministers and others gathered on the steps of Jackson city hall yesterday and demanded Jackson and Hinds County provide more business to black business owners.  The Clarion-Ledger reported:

A group of local African-American ministers and business owners joined forces Wednesday to urge Jackson and Hinds County to provide more business opportunity for African-American companies.

"A larger share of work should go to African-Americans," said Bishop Ronnie Crudup, flanked by other ministers and business people outside Jackson City Hall. "If they don't get business, they can't improve themselves."

Crudup said members of the group have talked to Mayor Tony Yarber and Jackson City Council members.....

"It's something that has been coming on for a long time," Pickett said. "The lion's share of business doesn't go to African-Americans."

Crudup said the state of Jackson — with the city's budget problems and companies leaving the city — brought about the effort.

Jackson businessman James Covington said one thing the city, Hinds County and the Jackson Municipal Airport Authority can do is a disparity study to determine the need for more contracts for African-American businesses. Covington also said public entities have the ability, at their sole discretion, to award professional service contracts and contracts on opportunities below $50,000 using two quotes and those under $5,000 using one quote. Rest of article.

Learned nothing and forgot everything.  Sole-source and no-bid contracts are one of the largest sources of corruption in Mississippi.   Reporters are known to omit key facts and the story was written by Jimmie Gates but it appears not one word was said about providing the best service or best price to the city.  


Anonymous said...

Gates is a water carrier, Sam R. Hall the load boss and dispatcher.

Hand It Out And They Will Come said...

Crudup has it backwards. He claims if you give black contractors business, they can improve themselves. The fact of the matter is if they improve themselves, they will have no problem getting business.

Reminds me of the Habitat philosophy. Give somebody a free house and they will improve and enjoy progress. What's wrong with improving and progressing and then being able to afford a house?

Anonymous said...

7:47 That sounds suspiciously like hard work.

Anonymous said...

Tithing must be down in Jackson this year.

Anonymous said...

Not once in his speech did I hear the words "Our contractors have a reputation of performing High Quality work," "Our employees report to work on time and work the entire shift every day they are scheduled," "Our contracts are completed on time and within budget." "Our work can be inspected and approved the first time." I don't care if he went to school with somebody's mother. That won't keep my building from having foundation problems, to be free of flooding, safe from electrical fires or have a non-leaking roof.

Anonymous said...

It's time for the legislature to protect the airport once and for all. There is no earthly reason why the City of Jackson should control one of the most important state-wide economic impact assets of the State of Mississippi. Do something, legislature.

Anonymous said...

8:33 am - Amen. The problem in a nutshell..........

Anonymous said...

This "I'm entitled to a handout bc the color of my skin only" has got to stop. Like the other person said, if you do quality work, treat your customers and employees right then you should have no problem getting business because at that point there is EQUALITY! Just the type of thing MLK marched for. Bunch of racist biggots is what they are.

Anonymous said...

Since when were the blacks in Jackson, Mississippi the MINIRITY? This truly makes my blood boil. There are a handful of blacks in our city who pay property taxes and water bills; there are a handful who work hard to make our city better for everyone. This is great, Socrates - let's run those whites who DO pay taxes out of Jackson - to those areas where you "can't do business" - so the infrastructure can totally crumble. You're a disgusting racist who is willing to crap in your own back yard just to destroy whites.

Anonymous said...

If a group of white businessmen met for a similar conference they would be labeled as racist. So, I apply black racism against whites to set aside program that he is promoting.

Anonymous said...

So the argument is that getting crony government contracts will make these recipient MORE reliable, efficient and competitive?

Because in my experience, the result is always exactly the opposite of that.

Kingfish said...

Majority of population in Jackson is homeowner, not renters, according to the US Census. Given Jackson is 20% white, that means there are quite a few black homeowners. Try again.

Anonymous said...

I have a friend that worked for an out-of-state construction company that spent several years in Jackson on a project. According to him, many large construction companies have determined that the most efficient/cost effective means of meeting minority contractor requirements when working in black run cities is to set aside a portion of the project for the minority contractors. In his case, the company set aside one floor of a multi-floor project, and instead of wasting time vetting minority contractors and monitoring the quality of their work, they simply turned them loose and contained them to a single floor. They had it budgeted in from the beginning to come behind them and redo the entire floor with their own crews.

Anonymous said...

I realize you rounded up and 20% sounds better, but, in 2013 data Jackson was 17.3% white. From 2000 to 2013 population fell 6.3%.

Anonymous said...

this blows my mind. Garrett is one greedy sob. I'm really trying to figure out how his version of a minority set aside program would work. Last I looked, there were 5 blacks/2 whites on the city council that voted his contract down. they suspected hanky panky, for sure. and, the other vendor also had minority contractors involved. So, Garrett's new push is to trash the other contractor and to tell the city council that they should give the contract to a "real" minority contractor. I guess that means that Garrett is the only real minority contractor in this city.

Anonymous said...

Longtime Hinds County clerk Barbara Dunn told me several years ago that taxpayers would be absolutely shocked if they knew how much money was wasted in order to give more work to black firms.
These set asides and giveaways hurt the progress of blacks. Instead of improving their companies to compete fairly they take the handout work and do very little to improve. Example - when the convention center was built a minority contractor who did very little of the actual work was made a partner and given 1/2 of the profits. This was a requirement of the contract. The contractor was very old at the time but his daughter was in the prime of life. She was made assistant project manager on the site but knew very little about what was going on. Instead of taking the opportunity to ask questions, learn and help out, she would come to work late and contribute very little. So what is the point of the set aside? If they don't try to learn when they have a chance why not take some cash from the tax payers and give it to a random black person?

Anonymous said...

There is a problem with blacks growing business in Jackson. But one reason is that a very small group of black business people have cornered the market. They team up with anyone on every type of project.

Where are the internship/apprentice programs that would actually grow new black owned businesses?

Anonymous said...

I worked at a white owned supply company and a black company won a minority contract. The owner of the minority company had us supply and deliver and he sent them the bill. He never touched the product but got more for it because he was black.

Anonymous said...

Seems like Garrett needs some of that republican welfare Mattiace is getting.

Anonymous said...

There is no shortage of blacks who know how to do various types of construction work. But very few of them know the business side. They would have to work for a successful contractor as 3:27 suggested in order to learn the business side. After several years of experience you need money to start your own business. I am not up to date on current bonding requirements, but my educated guess is you would need $250,000 to $5000,000 to start a commercial construction company and have enough cash to survive. And the kicker is - this money cannot be a loan. You mush have the cash to get bonded. So you need a college education, hands on construction experience, middle management experience, and cash. Plus a lot of drive. It would be much easier to become an attorney. Or you could start many types of businesses that are less complicated and allow you to use borrowed money.
The folks that are always claiming discrimination never think that many more white people can get 1/4 million from dear old Dad than can blacks. Certainly blacks have more wealth than 60 years ago, but they keep shooting themselves in the foot with so many unwed mothers and so much crime. I believe the figure is some like 70% of blacks are born to unwed mothers. Tell me how these children are going to own construction companies? Their mothers killed their chances by getting pregnant with no father around. You cannot blame that on white people.

Anonymous said...

This guy sounds like an extortionist. "You can't get there without me" and "you have to mentor the competition" sound illegal.

This guy is nothing more than a racist a-hole.

Anonymous said...

Seems like Garrett needs some of that republican welfare Mattiace is getting.

So ask yourself. Does Soc truly want the playing field leveled state-wide or does he only want to more fully exploit the black contracting mama-classmate advantage he already possesses in black majority governed municipalties?

Though, in all fairness to Soc, it doesn't matter what the political affiliation might be, Mississippi's Jim Crow whites, Repugnitcan or Donkeycrat, are still getting their jiggies with it.

Haley is only the latest Ross Barnett.

Kingfish said...

Time to play the flip side. Other engineers play the same game. Calhoun has fish fries for politicians. Then there are the big three: Carl Ray, Joe, and Rudy. They pay to play or get people elected at the local and state level. Socrates is just being more open about it.

Anonymous said...

Two wrongs make a right!

2016 Hottest Reporter Poll

Suscribe to latest on JJ.

Recent Comments

Search Jackson Jambalaya

Subscribe to JJ's Youtube channel

Who is the hottest reporter?


Who is the Hottest Reporter in Jackson?

Trollfest '09

Trollfest '07 was such a success that Jackson Jambalaya will once again host Trollfest '09. Catch this great event which will leave NE Jackson & Fondren in flames. Othor Cain and his band, The Black Power Structure headline the night while Sonjay Poontang returns for an encore performance. Former Frank Melton bodyguard Marcus Wright makes his premier appearance at Trollfest singing "I'm a Sweet Transvestite" from "The Rocky Horror Picture Show." Kamikaze will sing his new hit, “How I sold out to da Man.” Robbie Bell again performs: “Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be Bells” and “Any friend of Ed Peters is a friend of mine”. After the show, Ms. Bell will autograph copies of her mug shot photos. In a salute to “Dancing with the Stars”, Ms. Bell and Hinds County District Attorney Robert Smith will dance the Wango Tango.

Wrestling returns, except this time it will be a Battle Royal with Othor Cain, Ben Allen, Kim Wade, Haley Fisackerly, Alan Lange, and “Big Cat” Donna Ladd all in the ring at the same time. The Battle Royal will be in a steel cage, no time limit, no referee, and the losers must leave town. Marshand Crisler will be the honorary referee (as it gives him a title without actually having to do anything).

Meet KIM Waaaaaade at the Entergy Tent. For five pesos, Kim will sell you a chance to win a deed to a crack house on Ridgeway Street stuffed in the Howard Industries pinata. Don't worry if the pinata is beaten to shreds, as Mr. Wade has Jose, Emmanuel, and Carlos, all illegal immigrants, available as replacements for the it. Upon leaving the Entergy tent, fig leaves will be available in case Entergy literally takes everything you have as part of its Trollfest ticket price adjustment charge.

Donna Ladd of The Jackson Free Press will give several classes on learning how to write. Smearing, writing without factchecking, and reporting only one side of a story will be covered. A donation to pay their taxes will be accepted and she will be signing copies of their former federal tax liens. Ms. Ladd will give a dramatic reading of her two award-winning essays (They received The Jackson Free Press "Best Of" awards.) "Why everything is always about me" and "Why I cover murders better than anyone else in Jackson".

In the spirit of helping those who are less fortunate, Trollfest '09 adopts a cause for which a portion of the proceeds and donations will be donated: Keeping Frank Melton in his home. The “Keep Frank Melton From Being Homeless” booth will sell chances for five dollars to pin the tail on the jackass. John Reeves has graciously volunteered to be the jackass for this honorable excursion into saving Frank's ass. What's an ass between two friends after all? If Mr. Reeves is unable to um, perform, Speaker Billy McCoy has also volunteered as when the word “jackass” was mentioned he immediately ran as fast as he could to sign up.

In order to help clean up the legal profession, Adam Kilgore of the Mississippi Bar will be giving away free, round-trip plane tickets to the North Pole where they keep their bar complaint forms (which are NOT available online). If you don't want to go to the North Pole, you can enjoy Brant Brantley's (of the Mississippi Commission on Judicial Performance) free guided tours of the quicksand field over by High Street where all complaints against judges disappear. If for some reason you are unable to control yourself, never fear; Judge Houston Patton will operate his jail where no lawyers are needed or allowed as you just sit there for minutes... hours.... months...years until he decides he is tired of you sitting in his jail. Do not think Judge Patton is a bad judge however as he plans to serve free Mad Dog 20/20 to all inmates.

Trollfest '09 is a pet-friendly event as well. Feel free to bring your dog with you and do not worry if your pet gets hungry, as employees of the Jackson Zoo will be on hand to provide some of their animals as food when it gets to be feeding time for your little loved one.

Relax at the Fox News Tent. Since there are only three blonde reporters in Jackson (being blonde is a requirement for working at Fox News), Megan and Kathryn from WAPT and Wendy from WLBT will be on loan to Fox. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both and a torn-up Obama yard sign will entitle you to free drinks served by Megan, Wendy, and Kathryn. Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required. Just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '09 is for EVERYONE!!!

This is definitely a Beaver production.

Note: Security provided by INS.

Trollfest '07

Jackson Jambalaya is the home of Trollfest '07. Catch this great event which promises to leave NE Jackson & Fondren in flames. Sonjay Poontang and his band headline the night with a special steel cage, no time limit "loser must leave town" bout between Alan Lange and "Big Cat"Donna Ladd following afterwards. Kamikaze will perform his new song F*** Bush, he's still a _____. Did I mention there was no referee? Dr. Heddy Matthias and Lori Gregory will face off in the undercard dueling with dangling participles and other um, devices. Robbie Bell will perform Her two latest songs: My Best Friends are in the Media and Mama's, Don't Let Your Babies Grow up to be George Bell. Sid Salter of The Clarion-Ledger will host "Pin the Tail on the Trial Lawyer", sponsored by State Farm.

There will be a hugging booth where in exchange for your young son, Frank Melton will give you a loooong hug. Trollfest will have a dunking booth where Muhammed the terrorist will curse you to Allah as you try to hit a target that will drop him into a vat of pig grease. However, in the true spirit of Separate But Equal, Don Imus and someone from NE Jackson will also sit in the dunking booth for an equal amount of time. Tom Head will give a reading for two hours on why he can't figure out who the hell he is. Cliff Cargill will give lessons with his .80 caliber desert eagle, using Frank Melton photos as targets. Tackleberry will be on hand for an autograph session. KIM Waaaaaade will be passing out free titles and deeds to crackhouses formerly owned by The Wood Street Players.

If you get tired come relax at the Fox News Tent. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both will entitle you to free drinks.Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required, just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '07 is for EVERYONE!!!

This is definitely a Beaver production.

Note: Security provided by INS