The Wall Street Journal reported earlier this week that one of the cogs in the Obamacare machine is falling apart:
Health cooperatives are collapsing at such a rapid clip that some co-ops and small insurers are forming a coalition to consider legal action to try to change health-law provisions they blame for their financial distress.
Colorado’s co-op and one in Oregon announced Friday that they were folding, joining six others that have already collapsed or said they will unwind operations. The eight co-ops have received nearly $900 million in federal funds that may not be paid back....
The coalition is being formed by dozens of surviving health coops, smaller insurers and new benefit providers that say their survival is at risk, said Martin Hickey, chairman of the National Alliance of State Health Coops, the trade group for the co-ops. The coalition wants changes to a federal formula known as risk adjustment, which takes money from plans with healthier and younger enrollees and gives it to plans with older and sicker customers to spread out financial pressures on insurers.
The health co-ops and smaller insurers say the formula, along with another health law program that aims to offset insurers’ financial losses, is putting them out of business.
“The formula is flawed,” Dr. Hickey said. “We may try to get an injunction for an independent outside examination to see if the risk adjustment formula is in fact stabilizing the insurance market. If it continues without changes, it’s going to wipe us all out.”
Co-ops were an experiment under the health law to infuse competition, lower prices, and insurance markets with a variety of choices for consumers. A total of about $2.4 billion was given in low-interest loans to 23 co-ops.
Co-ops have failed or are being closed down in Colorado, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, New York, Nevada and Tennessee, and Oregon. So far, more than 500,000 customers have lost their co-op coverage, and co-op officials said their demise will hurt competition, leading to higher prices for consumers.
Most of the remaining co-ops are losing money and have lower-than-expected enrollment, according to a recent report by the Health and Human Services Office of Inspector General.
Republicans say it’s doubtful if the federal government will ever recoup the millions of dollars in seed money the startups received.....
The startups have been caught in a financial squeeze. Because they tended to attract younger, healthier people, many were required under the risk adjustment formula to pay fees to help cover the sicker patients who signed up with established carriers.
At the same time, the federal government said this month insurers would get just 12.6% of money they requested from a program known as risk corridors that aims to ease financial risk. That has been a tough financial hit for co-ops and smaller insurers with less financial cushion than commercial insurers.
The failures have left hundreds of thousands of consumers scrambling to find new health insurance coverage. Co-ops were generally low-priced, and many consumers could likely pay higher premiums on new plans and they could also be on the hook for medical bills their failed insurers are unable to cover.
The federal government said it is taking steps to help consumers. “CMS’s priority is to make sure that Marketplace customers have access to quality, affordable coverage through the Marketplaces,” the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services said in a statement Thursday. “We are working with Oregon and Colorado officials to do everything possible to make sure consumers stay covered.”
Colorado and some other co-ops have argued they were prematurely shut down by state regulators, and some co-op leaders have also blamed the Obama administration, which they say provided insufficient oversight or wrongly assured them they would get more funding from the risk program. Republicans passed legislation in 2014 that barred the administration from using other money from other federal funds to make up shortfalls.
Insurers had asked for about $2.87 billion in payments based on their 2014 results. But CMS said the pool available to make those payments is just $362 million, which came from collections from other insurers that did relatively well on their marketplace business.
CMS has said it hopes to make payments to cover the shortage as more money comes into the program in later years. Rest of article.
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Trollfest '07 was such a success that Jackson Jambalaya will once again host Trollfest '09. Catch this great event which will leave NE Jackson & Fondren in flames. Othor Cain and his band, The Black Power Structure headline the night while Sonjay Poontang returns for an encore performance. Former Frank Melton bodyguard Marcus Wright makes his premier appearance at Trollfest singing "I'm a Sweet Transvestite" from "The Rocky Horror Picture Show." Kamikaze will sing his new hit, “How I sold out to da Man.” Robbie Bell again performs: “Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be Bells” and “Any friend of Ed Peters is a friend of mine”. After the show, Ms. Bell will autograph copies of her mug shot photos. In a salute to “Dancing with the Stars”, Ms. Bell and Hinds County District Attorney Robert Smith will dance the Wango Tango.
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Donna Ladd of The Jackson Free Press will give several classes on learning how to write. Smearing, writing without factchecking, and reporting only one side of a story will be covered. A donation to pay their taxes will be accepted and she will be signing copies of their former federal tax liens. Ms. Ladd will give a dramatic reading of her two award-winning essays (They received The Jackson Free Press "Best Of" awards.) "Why everything is always about me" and "Why I cover murders better than anyone else in Jackson".
In the spirit of helping those who are less fortunate, Trollfest '09 adopts a cause for which a portion of the proceeds and donations will be donated: Keeping Frank Melton in his home. The “Keep Frank Melton From Being Homeless” booth will sell chances for five dollars to pin the tail on the jackass. John Reeves has graciously volunteered to be the jackass for this honorable excursion into saving Frank's ass. What's an ass between two friends after all? If Mr. Reeves is unable to um, perform, Speaker Billy McCoy has also volunteered as when the word “jackass” was mentioned he immediately ran as fast as he could to sign up.
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Wrestling returns, except this time it will be a Battle Royal with Othor Cain, Ben Allen, Kim Wade, Haley Fisackerly, Alan Lange, and “Big Cat” Donna Ladd all in the ring at the same time. The Battle Royal will be in a steel cage, no time limit, no referee, and the losers must leave town. Marshand Crisler will be the honorary referee (as it gives him a title without actually having to do anything).
Meet KIM Waaaaaade at the Entergy Tent. For five pesos, Kim will sell you a chance to win a deed to a crack house on Ridgeway Street stuffed in the Howard Industries pinata. Don't worry if the pinata is beaten to shreds, as Mr. Wade has Jose, Emmanuel, and Carlos, all illegal immigrants, available as replacements for the it. Upon leaving the Entergy tent, fig leaves will be available in case Entergy literally takes everything you have as part of its Trollfest ticket price adjustment charge.
Donna Ladd of The Jackson Free Press will give several classes on learning how to write. Smearing, writing without factchecking, and reporting only one side of a story will be covered. A donation to pay their taxes will be accepted and she will be signing copies of their former federal tax liens. Ms. Ladd will give a dramatic reading of her two award-winning essays (They received The Jackson Free Press "Best Of" awards.) "Why everything is always about me" and "Why I cover murders better than anyone else in Jackson".
In the spirit of helping those who are less fortunate, Trollfest '09 adopts a cause for which a portion of the proceeds and donations will be donated: Keeping Frank Melton in his home. The “Keep Frank Melton From Being Homeless” booth will sell chances for five dollars to pin the tail on the jackass. John Reeves has graciously volunteered to be the jackass for this honorable excursion into saving Frank's ass. What's an ass between two friends after all? If Mr. Reeves is unable to um, perform, Speaker Billy McCoy has also volunteered as when the word “jackass” was mentioned he immediately ran as fast as he could to sign up.
In order to help clean up the legal profession, Adam Kilgore of the Mississippi Bar will be giving away free, round-trip plane tickets to the North Pole where they keep their bar complaint forms (which are NOT available online). If you don't want to go to the North Pole, you can enjoy Brant Brantley's (of the Mississippi Commission on Judicial Performance) free guided tours of the quicksand field over by High Street where all complaints against judges disappear. If for some reason you are unable to control yourself, never fear; Judge Houston Patton will operate his jail where no lawyers are needed or allowed as you just sit there for minutes... hours.... months...years until he decides he is tired of you sitting in his jail. Do not think Judge Patton is a bad judge however as he plans to serve free Mad Dog 20/20 to all inmates.
Trollfest '09 is a pet-friendly event as well. Feel free to bring your dog with you and do not worry if your pet gets hungry, as employees of the Jackson Zoo will be on hand to provide some of their animals as food when it gets to be feeding time for your little loved one.
Relax at the Fox News Tent. Since there are only three blonde reporters in Jackson (being blonde is a requirement for working at Fox News), Megan and Kathryn from WAPT and Wendy from WLBT will be on loan to Fox. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both and a torn-up Obama yard sign will entitle you to free drinks served by Megan, Wendy, and Kathryn. Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required. Just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '09 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
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Jackson Jambalaya is the home of Trollfest '07. Catch this great event which promises to leave NE Jackson & Fondren in flames. Sonjay Poontang and his band headline the night with a special steel cage, no time limit "loser must leave town" bout between Alan Lange and "Big Cat"Donna Ladd following afterwards. Kamikaze will perform his new song F*** Bush, he's still a _____. Did I mention there was no referee? Dr. Heddy Matthias and Lori Gregory will face off in the undercard dueling with dangling participles and other um, devices. Robbie Bell will perform Her two latest songs: My Best Friends are in the Media and Mama's, Don't Let Your Babies Grow up to be George Bell. Sid Salter of The Clarion-Ledger will host "Pin the Tail on the Trial Lawyer", sponsored by State Farm.
There will be a hugging booth where in exchange for your young son, Frank Melton will give you a loooong hug. Trollfest will have a dunking booth where Muhammed the terrorist will curse you to Allah as you try to hit a target that will drop him into a vat of pig grease. However, in the true spirit of Separate But Equal, Don Imus and someone from NE Jackson will also sit in the dunking booth for an equal amount of time. Tom Head will give a reading for two hours on why he can't figure out who the hell he is. Cliff Cargill will give lessons with his .80 caliber desert eagle, using Frank Melton photos as targets. Tackleberry will be on hand for an autograph session. KIM Waaaaaade will be passing out free titles and deeds to crackhouses formerly owned by The Wood Street Players.
If you get tired come relax at the Fox News Tent. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both will entitle you to free drinks.Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required, just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '07 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
There will be a hugging booth where in exchange for your young son, Frank Melton will give you a loooong hug. Trollfest will have a dunking booth where Muhammed the terrorist will curse you to Allah as you try to hit a target that will drop him into a vat of pig grease. However, in the true spirit of Separate But Equal, Don Imus and someone from NE Jackson will also sit in the dunking booth for an equal amount of time. Tom Head will give a reading for two hours on why he can't figure out who the hell he is. Cliff Cargill will give lessons with his .80 caliber desert eagle, using Frank Melton photos as targets. Tackleberry will be on hand for an autograph session. KIM Waaaaaade will be passing out free titles and deeds to crackhouses formerly owned by The Wood Street Players.
If you get tired come relax at the Fox News Tent. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both will entitle you to free drinks.Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required, just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '07 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
21 comments:
The one in Louisiana which was partly owned by a state legislator was a joke from the start. Not a sole who owned/ran the deal had more than a whisper of healthcare insurance experience. They got busy and spent the Feds' seed money like drunken sailors before they ever signed up a beneficiary. Shocking that the state and Feds are having to take it over.
Not all of the ACA was/is bad, but the coops were/are among its worst programs.
The idea apparently was to create a new generation of mini Blue Cross type non-profit insurers. Unlike Blue Cross and other non-profits, they never had any capital. All they could do was to pay out claims from the money that came in from premiums and that did not work for long without other sources of revenue. Congress should have written that part of ACA quite differently where it would be a multi year experiment to see if it would work. As it was, they just handed them the keys and told them they were an insurance company.
The coops weren't allowed to advertise because the dumbo rats thought advertising is why insurance costs so much
Congress should have written that part of ACA quite differently where it would be a multi year experiment to see if it would work.
Congress didn't write Obamacare. Republicans in Congress share no responsibility for the disaster.
reubs share alot of the blame as they were all bark and no bite when it came to defeating obamacare
When you attempt to solve a set of problems, you always get a new set of problems that will hopefully be easier to fix if you go about problem solving well. No system ever designed has been without flaws.
If you want to find them and focus on them and use them to cast blame, you can easily play that game. Fixing what is broken is better but requires time and energy and thoughtfulness. Criticism and blame is easier but it solves nothing. It is crying over spilled milk and letting the milk stay on the floor and sour.
The bill was nearly identical to the one Bob Dole put forward long ago so if you are silly enough to find the blame game useful, start there!
And ,most of the blame for the health care mess, is thanks to the lame duck Congress that existed just before Clinton took office , it is impossible for Congress to get accurate information. The actual costs of medical care and drugs and drug development is what the industries decide to report to Congress it is. The GAO nor Congress can get any actual cost documents. That lame duck Congress made that information proprietary. It's what those industries wanted and got when they knew the Clinton wanted to look at health care.
Or we can blame Clinton for saying he'd strap on an issue where the lobbyist were too powerful for him not to end up having it made worse.
So we can continue with this partisan BS or we can fix it and have a rational health care delivery system.
But, to do that, requires putting egos aside, obtaining factual information, gaining knowledge about alternatives , and sitting down to reason together to come up with the best we can do with an eye to tweaking and improving as needed.
While interesting, I cannot, from the information in this article determine what the actual problems might be. Several places to look in depth were mentioned, but most of the comments given thus far have little to do with the article and everything to do with opinions that existed before reading it as far as I can tell.
Sadly, we will continue to cast blame rather than fix what is broken and ever sadder, those who know very little but think they know it all, will continue to drive the debate and the policy decisions.
My litmus test for descerning someone's intelligence in these discussions is whether they use the word Obamacare.
The blame Republicans have is for losing so many seats in Congress during 2006 & 2008 elections. Dems had 60 seats in the Senate- the magic number to make anything happen. Democrats also had about 250 seats in the House (and 3 of 4 in MS). Obamacare aside, it could have been a lot worse looking back.
My litmus test for discerning intelligence in these discussions is whether they spell descerning correctly. lol. Obama likes it being called the Obamacare.
October 25, 2015 at 10:12 AM said
"So we can continue with this partisan BS or we can fix it and have a rational health care delivery system.
But, to do that, requires putting egos aside, obtaining factual information, gaining knowledge about alternatives , and sitting down to reason together to come up with the best we can do with an eye to tweaking and improving as needed."
That's nice to say after someone crammed something down your throat.
We had a system that worked for the biggest part of the population and the whole thing was scrapped to help a few and get money from people that didn't need insurance. Now the people that used to be able to go out and buy a policy for themselves have to get a one size fits all policy, paying twice the amount they use to, to help pay for ones that can't.
Small tweaking should have happened before this massive change.
"Pass it to find out what's in it." It all started with BS so let the BS end it.
8:21: How so?
40 votes is 40 votes in the Senate. The Republicans were locked out of the drafting process. No amendments were allowed. Rules were changed and it was hustled through under reconciliation procedures. The Republicans didn't vote for it. Hell, they had to buy off Democratic Senators just to get it passed.
But hey, we don't want to confuse you with facts.
Cut it out Karen. We know it is you. You're hardly non-partisan.
I agree that OBAMACARE would have passed but the Repubs didnt even put up a fight. Sure a few did but the establishment repubs worked to shut them down. This is why Trump is getting so much traction. Most repubs have turned out to be rino's so whats the difference in sending trump. This repub melt down started with "Read my Lip Bush" and he quickly flipped on that promise.
Tell us 4:05 PM how the Republicans were supposed to stop a simple majority vote in the Senate. Please give specifics. Not defending the RINOs by any means but interested in how the reconciliation vote chicanery could have been stopped.
The GOP had an opportunity in the House to participate in reforming health care before the bill ever got to the Senate.
Indeed, that there were efforts to appease the GOP and lobbyists is why contracting with drugs companies like other nations do was taken out and a single payer system was never considered!
The GOP chose instead to play politics and continue to cater to the party crazies.
KF , you just aren't that naïve about how the system works. And, I don't think you've forgotten all the White House meetings and even a golf game or two! I know elections are coming up but really.
October 26, 2015 at 5:55 AM = Revisionist history
"Congress should have written that part of ACA quite differently where it would be a multi year experiment to see if it would work."
No. Congress should have not written ACA at all. Period. This was 180 degrees in the wrong direction. The way to start getting control of health care costs (And that is what the liar in chief claims this was about. Over and over he said it was to control the costs) is the have people buy their own health insurance and not get it at work. Give them a tax break for buying insurance, let them have a tax free medical savings account. Make them responsible for their own medical care spending. Allow capitalism to work and it will work. Providing health care for the poor is a separate issue. Don't mess up the medical costs of the entire nation because some people need help.
What 10:07 said...
The DEMOCRAT party OWNS Obamacare. Lock, stock and barrel. The Democrats crammed that steaming pile of crap down the throats of the country. They paid off all Democrats that used that as a lever to "bring home the bacon". They threatened, cajoled, bought and they then pronounced how wonderfully proud of themselves they were, along with announcing that those damn Repubs would rue the day that they didn't go along with Obamacare.
If it weren't so freaking pathetic it would be laughable to watch the Democrats run from what they did and try to blame the Repubs.
OWN it Democrats, remind everyone how great a deal it was. Run on it as the main platform for your party.
Assholes.
Nobody seems to realize that the poor elect democrats because they don't believe their own party needs to keep them poor and begging, in order to survive. They love the poor and feed their minds with half truths and promises that are so far fetched, that anyone with any common sense, knows will never be successful because SOMEBODY has to pay for it, and it isn't gonna be the democrats. They're usually undereducated, cast votes based on race, live in substandard cities and homes, and are likely the head of a household of illigitimate children. When somebody comes along with AFFORDABLE Healthcare, all you get is bunch of nurse practioners taking over the responsibilities of HIGHLY trained physicians. That's what you call substanard care, But it is change you can count on!
The Affordable Care Act (i.e., Obamacare) has been a stunningly successful program. The rate of uninsured Americans has plummeted from around 20% of the population to around 11%. This means that millions of Americans - somewhere around 16 million - are now getting much-needed access to healthcare that they were previously denied. Enrollment targets have been largely met (and exceeded in many places), and healthcare is now affordable for most people. This have improved living standards for a large number of Americans and made them much more healthy. Our grandchildren will have never heard of "pre-existing conditions" and no one will now be denied healthcare. Finally, the ACA is greatly contributing to the slow-down in healthcare spending. All of these are incontrovertible facts.
In the bizarro-world of Jackson Jambalaya, however, this is considered a "steaming pile of crap" that Democrats should be running from, scared to death. Guess what, JJ? Obamacare works, it is a success, and it is here to stay. Suck it.
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