Thursday, April 23, 2015

Stokes wants to use JPD to protect criminals

Kenneth Stokes went on a little rant about police chases at Tuesday's meeting of the Jackson City Council. Mr. Stokes would like to create a safe haven for criminals in Jackson.  Think of it as Stokes goes Viet Cong.  He wants to give criminals the right to commit crimes  outside of Jackson and then rush back to Jackson and use JPD to protect said criminals.  Kind of like how Charlie would hit our troops and then rush back into North Vietnam where we couldn't touch them.  Watch the video for yourself. 





41 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is half-hearted. Why not go all in and just designate everything west of I-55 Hamsterdam?

Nuff2Say said...

State Supreme Court has several factors that determine whether a high-speed chases into other jurisdictions is warranted, including the seriousness of the crime and whether or not the chase would involve going through school or residential areas.

Didn't the recent "high speed" chase deal with a felony? So it wasn't a misdemeanor charge.

Love how Stokes compares this to Ferguson, MO... Just stir that racial pot... stir it up... its a race issue now.

And what about the hard working people that are getting things stolen from them... are these folks expected to just "turn the other cheek?" Oh yes please break into my home and beat up my defenseless grandfather and take everything he owns, which isn't much, including his deceased wife's wedding ring. Which he holds onto everyday thinking of her... yet Mr Stokes wants to allow the criminals to have THEIR WAY!

WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!

Anonymous said...

Apparently the reason Mr. Stokes can't pass the bar is because he eaither does not understand the law or can't comprehend there is a law. State code alredy provides guidance for cross-jurisdictional police chases. He does not understand that he an't pass a city ordinance that conflicts with State law. ......Constitutional law 101.

Anonymous said...

And the people of Jackson ( in a Democratic Party stronghold) keep electing him. The Jackson Democrat is the poster child of the Mississippi Democratic Party.

Anonymous said...

As long as these imbeciles enforce this ordinance with the same amount of vigor and competency as they do any other of their ordinances, let 'em pass it.

Anonymous said...

What is also truly unfortunate is that Stokes is the poster child for the City of Jackson.

Anonymous said...

Man, I can't even watch his videos any more. Depressing on so many levels.

Anonymous said...

9:44 said it best. Unfortunately, Stokes' idiocy has been the rallying cry and a large reason businesses leave Jackson and won't locate here, going all the way back to the late 80's. And he's so stupid, he doesn't realize he is hurting himself and his constituents by running out most of the white tax dollars from businesses and homeowners who've relocated. He is truly an imbecile and, while I hate to wish ill on anyone, the City of Jackson would benefit immensely if he and his wife were out of our city forever.

Anonymous said...

Jesus. I weep for the future. The day Kennuf dies will be a red letter day in Jackson.

Anonymous said...

Besides Harvey Johnson, it is hard to think of anyone who has done more to set Jackson back than Kenneth.

Kingfish said...

I'm not approving that comment because this has nothing to do with the Senate race. There are other senate race related threads where you can engage in your need to vent.

Anonymous said...

don't steal a 6pack of beer from indian mini-mart owners...

Anonymous said...

FUCK YOU Why don't you go butt fuck Austin.

Anonymous said...

...but you approve the one that would celebrate the death of a city official? 10:18, you need to seek help.

Anonymous said...

stealin some bubba gum

Anonymous said...

Looking at the 10:33 AM comment I'm just wondering how much worse the one that wasn't posted was.

Anonymous said...

I personally don't want cars coming through my neighborhood at speeds up to 100 miles an hour while trying to catch a shoplifter unless that shoplifter is dangerous. Remember the lady that got killed in Rankin County who was on her way to pick her kids up from church? That shoplifter never got out of Kroger with the items, had no weapon, and was chased from the Ridgeland Kroger all the way to Grants Ferry Road. That's when his car hit the young lady, and two kids lost their mother. Also, the police knew who he was and could have picked him up at any time. I'm not for going easy on dangerous criminals; I just think car chases need to have limits and consideration for the safety of the general public.

Anonymous said...

@12:48 pm I think until you put on the badge, Kevlar and gun you should keep your mouth shut about such matters. Have you had to make split second decision of this magnitude? I doubt it... Your toughest decision is probably where you should go for happy hour.

A lot of factors have to be weighed as a cop especially when in pursuit of a criminal. There is a reason Rankin County has such a good reputation when it comes to being a safe area. There is a reason why folks choose Rankin County when relocating from Jackson. The reason is that our law enforcement agencies are second to NONE they take no crap and will make sure you are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Personally I think we should cut off all access to Jackson and let them fend for themselves.

Anonymous said...

2:12 - You're the problem, not the solution. Your comment reads like it was written by a police officer. Wake up and pull the night stick out of your ass. The high speed chase the commenter mentioned was in no way a "split second" decision.

The very last thing I want is to have the fools in blue being able to do whatever the hell they want to once they "put on the badge, Kevlar and gun," regardless of their jurisdiction. While I'm not a fan of Stokes, he does bring up a legitimate issue, even if he made a complete mockery of it after about 1 minute into his rant.

Please observe your county limits, we'll all be safer.

Anonymous said...

The individuals posting in this thread should donate their crystal balls and psychic powers to the law enforcement officers of their choosing. They obviously have the ability to quickly and easily recognize whether someone evading a police officer is "dangerous" or not.

In case one doesn't recognize the sarcasm, wake the f*ck up. You will be the same dumb, narcissistic myopians that will complain when a LEO disengages from a pursuit and the person goes on an kills or injures someone.

How about placing the responsibility squarely where it belongs instead of attempting to assign blame. That would be the criminal

Anonymous said...

What is the legitimate issue? Because the only true solution would be the cessation of police pursuits including those conducted by JPD.

Your comment reads like it was written by a lame opportunist.

Anonymous said...

@3:20 not a LEO but I am a LEO's wife. Sorry you got so offended. @3:47 is right though let them borrow your crystal ball. OR why don't you go through the academy then see what your thoughts are? Cops don't ask criminals to run... in fact just the opposite they ask them to stop. Criminals, however, believe they can somehow evade Law Enforcement. BTW they can't...

Oh hey we'll keep our LEOs inside our county if you promise not to come to our county for ANY reason. If you don't like our LEO's then please don't come and enjoy the fruits of their labor (aka safe streets, nice businesses, etc.) Let's see how you like being stuck with your do nothing police force in Jxn.

Anonymous said...

How about placing the responsibility squarely where it belongs instead of attempting to assign blame. That would be the criminal.

That would be the Jackson criminals who do their crimes in surrounding communities all-the-while believing they can flee back to and disappear within the safer confines of black Jackson.

There is a reason why Clinton has taken steps to impede the easy retreat of perps back into west Jackson cesspool.

Anonymous said...

Balancing apprehension against undue risks is the legitimate issue, 3:52. It's so legitimate that EVERY law enforcement agency that has motor vehicles abides by them in some form or fashion. Either the municipal bodies or the law enforcement agencies create the rules because regardless how perfect 4:25's spouse is, they know that the heat of the moment is the exact Wrong time to make that call except in unusual cases. Stokes suggested the applicable rules of HIS jurisdiction should apply to pursuits in his jurisdiction regardless the pursuers. Then he started in on his customary racial nonsense.

Also, I live in Madison county, and I don't trust any of ours any more than I do yours.

Anonymous said...

This isn't the worst statement that has ever come from his mouth. Personally, I would like to hear the "spice" section of the meeting.

Anonymous said...

Vance out his foot in his mouth as well, that statement he made about protecting citizens from other officers was far fetched. He is completely gone to politics.

Anonymous said...

Though the Stokes family are total morons, I wouldn't wish death on either of them. That's just wrong. They and the leadership of Jackson are so self absorbed "moving a specific race forward" that they forget that successful cities are built without living in and reliving the past. Everyone but Jackson firmly holds their residents and visitors responsible for their crimes. With this belief, why would other agencies not pursue a criminal to their home town. Pursuits are extremely dangerous, but not as dangerous as the attitude of "if I run, I can get away with it." BTW: The fatal pursuit in Rankin County proceeded AFTER the guy tried to run over a cop in Madison, after he shoplifted.

Anonymous said...

I haven't read these comments because I wanted to set you straight.

the NVA came across out not out of North Vietnam, or at the time the DMZ, but rather out of Cambodia and that other shit country that the Ho Chi Min Trail went through. You weren't born then. Shut you're post draft era, non military service mouth up.

Anonymous said...

NVA made numerous attacks directly south across the DMZ pal. You don't know what you are talking about.

Anonymous said...

Lee Vance, he doesn't even deserve the title Chief. Better yet he was the BOTTOM of the barrel. Look how long the guy has been at JPD and finally when they ran out of people to hire or promote they settled for Lee. For a chief to make a comment like he did, I just hope that we don't have to try and find ways to protect our citizens from other police officers", just says a lot. Lee and Kenny, neither of you can protect your citizens from crime now, at least you have other chiefs in the Metro area that aren't scared to protect citizens, which is exactly why they chase and most always catch the criminals. Why do you think you have so much crime in Jackson? You don't see people shooting, robbing, carjacking people in any surrounding city do you? Yea you may have 1 here or there, but we all take care of business. Criminals know who they can run over and who they can't. 3 criminal activities in Richland and 3 to the jail house. A crime in Jackson is a field release; you don't even go to jail. I know I saw it last week on a drug stop. (Bet you citizens didn't know this). Go to Madison or Rankin counties and see how fast they will lock you up for screwing up. Lee you really need to take a lesson from other surrounding cities and see just how their department is run because Jackson is awful. I don't care how much paint you put on it or how pretty you want to dress it up at the end of the day, your city is the worst in the state and you DO nothing to fix it. So with that being said, we will help the citizens out as we remove criminals from Jackson 1 pursuit at a time

Anonymous said...

It's funny just how stupid Kenny Stokes is and what is even more funny is how the citizen's keep voting his dumba#@# in. He doesn't have a clue what is going on. He just says a whole lot of stuff that the citizens believe but the educated people know, doesn't make any sense. GO JACKSON!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Until the leaders of the City of Jackson wake up and look outside of their bubble, it will always be a dangerous, nasty place. Lee Vance is nothing more than a politician, trying to say the right things so that he can keep his job. As far as Kenny goes, you really do make your constituents look stupid because they keep voting you in office. Why don't you try and do something positive for the city for a change..

Anonymous said...

There are times when high speed chases are warranted.

But, the assumption many of you are making is that there are not alternative procedures that would end in the arrest of the criminal without putting innocent citizens going about normal activities at risk.

Boxing, road blocks and the use of helicopters in coordination with other officers of all jurisdictions are three of them. And, sometimes, patience is all that is needed as the officers have the name of the perp and finding him later is just not going to be all that difficult!


Chasing a property thief or a failed check forger into high traffic areas are not justified . Mississippi lost two outstanding citizens who contributed a great deal to their communities as a result.

Decisions made during adrenaline rushes are no substitute for training!

I suggest all of you bother to study how jurisdictions like Miami handle these situations. The arrest stats were not adversely affected and the incidents of injury or death to bystanders AND law enforcement went down with training and good policies and procedures in place!

I am sorry, however, to have Kenny Stokes as spokesman for this point of view as he is inarticulate and not well versed on any subject. He educates no one, including himself!




Anonymous said...

I am sorry, however, to have Kenny Stokes as spokesman for this point of view as he is inarticulate and not well versed on any subject. He educates no one, including himself!

Agree......he's an embarrassment every time he opens his mouth.

I want to disagree with a previous commenter about Stokes being stupid. I believe he and his twin LaRita are crazy smart and know how to play the game. Both have their snouts in the public feeding trough....LaRita well past $135,000 per year. Kenny needs to be nice to her. He draws so little on the City Council I don't imagine it covers his feeding bill.

Anonymous said...

6:54AM The assumption we are making is that Kenneth Stokes and the Jackson City Council would better serve Jackson/Hinds County by directing efforts towards crime prevention, instead of scolding the 'burbs' PO-lice departments. Until the contributors of the Metro area see some accountability and proactive work against crime by JXNs black leaders, the collective disrespect will continue.

Anonymous said...

Maybe we can get DC Traffic Engineer to design some roundabouts to put on the Interstate at County Line, on 220 and I-20?

I noticed Kenny saying something about a speeding ticket on 220. Sounds like a friend was speeding while still in Ridgeland/Madison Co. and didn't pull over until they were in the Jackson section of 220.
Does he think a JPD running a speed trap on I-55N should stop at County Line if he is pursuing a speeder?

Anonymous said...

I have no idea why someone thought this was relevant, or which comment he was referring to:

"the NVA came across out not out of North Vietnam, or at the time the DMZ, but rather out of Cambodia and that other shit country that the Ho Chi Min Trail went through. You weren't born then. Shut you're post draft era, non military service mouth up."

but I'm sure Kennuf would be against any high speed chases crossing from Vietnam into Jackson. I had never thought of that possibility, and bless every day the Lord has granted us such a visionary leader as Stokes .

Anonymous said...

If the Jackson city council doesn't want other people's problems coming into their city then people outside of Jackson should stop spending money in Jackson.

Anonymous said...

8:56, From the comments I have always read on this blog, I assumed nobody was spending any money in Jackson but those of us who live here, as most of these commenters seem to think Jackson is the most dangerous place in the country. I'm surprised to see people from surrounding cities even working in Jackson, but I see Rankin and Madison County car tags all over Jackson. Why do people come here if they're afraid? If you moved away because it's dangerous, why come back? When I first moved to this area, I lived in Ridgeland for two years. Then I moved to Jackson three years ago. I love my neighborhood, and I have a great job here. I would never live nor work nor visit any place I thought was dangerous to me. I have a special needs child, and so I also love having UMC/Batson nearby. There's lots of entertainment here. What I'm really trying to say is "different strokes for different folks," and "mine may not be right for you, and yours may not be right for me."

Anonymous said...

Kenneth stokes is such an idiot. Any time I have had a stressful day I just pull up an article about Kenny and get in a good laugh and my day gets so much better.

Anonymous said...

2:12, Putting on a badge shouldn't make you a moron. Police officers are highly trained individuals who are held to a higher standard than a regular citizen. I thought that's what all that training was for, to make police officers better at making split second decisions. Police officers' jobs are not only arresting criminals. It is also part of their job to protect the innocent public. I want to be protected from being killed in a car chase, especially for something that cost about $25.00.

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