Wednesday, September 29, 2021

Drip, Drip, Drip

 The lab leak rabbit hole keeps getting deeper and deeper. 



Saagar's report is based on this story that appeared in The Intercept last week:

A GRANT PROPOSAL written by the U.S.-based nonprofit the EcoHealth Alliance and submitted in 2018 to the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, or DARPA, provides evidence that the group was working — or at least planning to work — on several risky areas of research. Among the scientific tasks the group described in its proposal, which was rejected by DARPA, was the creation of full-length infectious clones of bat SARS-related coronaviruses and the insertion of a tiny part of the virus known as a “proteolytic cleavage site” into bat coronaviruses. Of particular interest was a type of cleavage site able to interact with furin, an enzyme expressed in human cells...

Since the genetic code of the coronavirus that caused the pandemic was first sequenced, scientists have puzzled over the “furin cleavage site.” This strange feature on the spike protein of the virus had never been seen in SARS-related betacoronaviruses, the class to which SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus that causes the respiratory illness Covid-19, belongs.

The furin cleavage site enables the virus to more efficiently bind to and release its genetic material into a human cell and is one of the reasons that the virus is so easily transmissible and harmful. But scientists are divided over how this particular site wound up in the virus, and the cleavage site became a major focus of the heated debate over the origins of the pandemic.... Rest of article



27 comments:

Albert Schweitzer MD said...

. The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

Mencken said this a century ago, and while the virus that mad midget sponsored has for many been fatal, it has had just this result.our populace driven by somewhat overblown fear and very ready to trade freedom for the promise of safety.

That promise from fauchi and biden is an incredible lie and promises from those two lying bastards are beyond worthless..

Anonymous said...

"The lab leak rabbit hole keeps getting deeper and deeper."

Or more and more ludicrous and completely detached from anything resembling science and medicine. It will be a real shocker when Dippyleaks releases the dangerous information that COVID is the result of the Chinese, working with Werner von Braun, Bono, and Rupaul, combining the Bavett flanganation of a Canuter valvaplex formunation, aspirgryrating the recombinate with leftover Soviet-era prop wash, and pharacoating the resultant in plaid paintogenious substances. Not only that, Bill Gates bought over 67 trillion call options on a drug company, TotalBulSHT (Ticker - BSBSBSBS). Sure, he owned and controlled the universe before that highly-suspicious trade, but when TotalBulSHT gets approval for boosters every 38 seconds, he'll make at least a MI-I-I-LLION dollars...and use every bit of it to buy a bald cat, some new teeth, and hopefully, a suit that doesn't look like something even Wayne Newton wouldn't have worn in 1978.

Yep. That pretty much outlines (well, paraphrases, anyway) what actual doctors hear when dipshits like these open their fucking mouths.

For the less-humorously inclined, these idiots wouldn't know or understand "furins" from "furouts" or "furburgers." And if it ("furin," not furburgers...but...) were explained in clinical terms to them or most others, they would be hopelessly and completely lost somewhere along about the 3rd or 4th word.

Anonymous said...

The president of Eco Health Alliance is Dr. Peter Daszak. He's also the one behind the letter from 27 "scientists" published in the Lancet claiming that the virus did not come from a lab.

These people are creating bio-weapons using the euphemism "gain of function research" to disguise what their doing.

Anonymous said...

Some relevant links:


https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/personnel/dr-peter-daszak

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9980015/26-Lancet-scientists-trashed-theory-Covid-leaked-Chinese-lab-links-Wuhan.html

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30418-9/fulltext

Anonymous said...

Who cares?

The Boy Scouts of Oxford are luring the unvaccinated in with barbeque. You can't give away immunization. People are dropping like flies and nobody seems to give diddly. Do I care if some bad Chinese person cooked this one up in a lab, or just caught it the normal way -- by having unprotected sex with a bat or two? I do not.

Go to the bottom of the article and take a gander at the three bimbos who wrote it. Read their credentials, if that's what you call it. One thing being alive a long time has taught me is that professionals generally do their jobs. The research community does not need my two cents worth to figure stuff out. These babes, the "investigative journalists" responsible for this swill know less about it than I do.

"Scientists are divided over how this particular site wound up in the virus" I bet they are. Two observations. First, that is after all what viruses do, they mutate, adapt, find new ways to fulfil their destinies as obligate intracellular parasites. Second, that's what scientists do, they divide over competing hypotheses. I don't understand virology, to speak of. I doubt most of the folks who stumble up on this stuff first thing in the morning do either. It's great fun to think we're smart. Very few of us are.

Anonymous said...

5:36: this just shows what you know. The life expectancy of humans, even with the Wuhan virus, is still greater than that of a fly. So although some have died, we are yet to drop like flies. On average a fly lives 2 to 3 weeks, so we are ok...immunized or not.

Disclosure: I'm not a scientist, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express

Anonymous said...

12:09 = Deflection. Truth does not require your belief or participation. If you are unwilling to look at the evidence, that’s on you. But your unwillingness to consider alternatives to the story you’ve been told is naive and obtuse.

Anonymous said...

Careful now KF. This dangerous post could get you deplatformed.

Anonymous said...

I do not understand people who think we should all ignore any inquiry into the actual origin of this very serious plague which has completely altered our civilization. IF it IS engineered by man, the next question would be, WHY? For what purpose? Is it weapons technology or medical accident? We might finds out that our response to this thing could be all wrong. Some of this stuff is only speculation but what's wrong with knowing?

Anonymous said...

I was thinking the same thing 8:13…..

Anonymous said...

SARS 2003. In 2012 NSARP declared SARS-coronavirus A SELECT AGENT. That is a bacterium, virus or toxin. The next day gain of function research began at the direction of Anthony Fauci and funded by Bill Gates. Ever heard of CIVETS ? Nothing should matter to any of us other than bring these KILLERS to justice.

Anonymous said...

Remember when the theory was just a crazy, right winger conspiracy? Yeah, good times. It's amazing that you lefties still gobble up what mainstream media feeds you. Why? Honestly, I would like to know the answer of why after how often and how serious of events mainstream media is wrong about - even intentionally- y'all keep consuming it?

Anonymous said...

From the longer article: "“We stand together to strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin.” Sounds just like George W. Bush after 9/11.

Anonymous said...

The biggest lie in all of this is the word "leak". The truth will become obvious one day, but just like with JFK and 9/11, by then the people will no longer care.

Anonymous said...

DL Gardner will post his follow up article next week. Keep your tin foil hat tuned in to the QAnon channel.

Anonymous said...

This racist conspiracy theory spread by Trump has been widely debunked.
Asian Americans have been violently attacked due to the spread of this covid “blood libel”

Trump lost, get over it.

Kingfish,
Why do you give think it is acceptable in 2021 to give “equal time” to racism and xenophobia?

EFGAlterEgo said...

I'm just waiting for a hystical comment somehow linking this to antisemitism.

Anonymous said...

Original Covid origin story was that a 16 year old Chi-com girl had eaten under cooked bat soup . And that did not come from any of the Right wingers people ! That came from the left. Under cooked bat soup !!

Anonymous said...

8:32 am Public speculation contributes nothing to the questions you want answered.

You appear to assume that:
1) we could control the labs of other countries and/or force them to admit anything or do anything based on U.S. public opinion.

2) no scientists or political leaders in any affected Nation( who are in stronger positions than someone who has to use UTube to contribute) are investigating.

We are in danger of destroying our democratic republic because some Americans never learned how to distinguish between a credible source and an unreliable source of information.

Nor did enough Americans bother to learn how our government works and what responsibilities are in each branch of government.

Little on social media is credible and much of it is contaminated by cyber propagandists trying to "divide and conquer".

Our enemies are winning. That we have reduced our population by nearly 700000 means fewer workers and product output. Our enemies want us to lose faith in our institutions. They would love another civil war. They would also love to see our democratic republic fall as that will also weaken other democratic republics. At which point all our natural resources and intellectual properties would be up for grabs.
And, if they keep you distracted by nursing your pet grievances, you won't notice the destruction around you until it's too late. Which may well come by December since both parties have elected unqualified prima donnas.

The strategy is as old as human history and worst of all , our most respected historians are trying desperately to warn us. But, they aren't as entertaining, are they?



Anonymous said...

10:24 - What is hystical?

Anonymous said...

Hey 10:03: CCP is not a race. Neither is “China”.

Anonymous said...

"12:09 = Deflection. Truth does not require your belief or participation. If you are unwilling to look at the evidence, that’s on you. But your unwillingness to consider alternatives to the story you’ve been told is naive and obtuse."

There is nothing to "deflect."

Gibberish is gibberish whether it is medical, legal, mechanical, construction, or any other gibberish. Some uneducated loon with absolutely no knowledge of the law blathering to a lawyer about "sovereign citizen" nonsense, or telling a mechanic that an engine operated without oil to the point of seizing can be fixed by dousing with lemonade, or telling a builder that beam span tables are just a conspiracy by lumber mills to sell larger lumber, or telling an electrician that line voltages and single- and three-phase power is just a conspiracy by the utility companies, etc., etc., etc., it is all just nonsense that those in the respective professions know is nonsense. The same is true when those with the requisite medical and scientific knowledge hear nonsense that they know is nonsense.

That those without any of the required subject-matter knowledge are initially duped by such nonsense isn't surprising. But when 1000s of doctors and scientists with the subject-matter knowledge try to convey that knowledge and are rebuffed, it is the same whether the topic is medicine, law, seized engines and lemonade, construction, electricity, or any other topic requiring specialized knowledge.

It is as simple as football, baseball, or any other sport. If someone starts spouting nonsense about how Archie Manning didn't throw enough fastballs when he was the field goal kicker for Vanderbilt or Drew Brees was the worst hockey goalie to ever play center field in the NBA, most folks instantly know the spouter doesn't have the slightest clue about what they are spouting. When a doctor hears, "the foot bone is connected to the kidney bone...," we know.

Anonymous said...

Regardless of the live forever vaccine, we're all gonna die someday sooner or later from something, but we don't get to make the sooner or later call.

Anonymous said...

10:03 ....FOR THE RECORD , attacks on Asian folks have been , at a very high rate, been "Biden" supporters "aka" Democrats.

Unknown said...

10:58AM
Hysterical - adjective
1. deriving from or affected by uncontrolled extreme emotion.
2. relating to, associated with, or suffering from hysteria.

Unknown said...

10:58 AM
I meant hysterical. That's what I get for not proofreading.

Anonymous said...

Lol @11:18 still believes the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to win the 2016 election even as indictments and subpoenas are being handed out like candy. Let me guess, you still also believe the Hunter Biden laptop story was Russian disinformation too.


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