Thursday, July 9, 2020

Dr. Osterholm Discusses Recent C19 Surge

If you have nothing at all to do today, you can listen to Dr. Michael Osterholm's latest podcast on the Covid-19 virus that is posted below.  Enjoy.



15 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thank you Bobbie Ware for standing up for physicians and pushing back on Dr. Dobbs that has no clue about how to treat a patient nor does he understand economics of medicine. She pushed back to inform him Baptist will not be restricting surgeries and we can handle the load. It's a farce and physicians have been blacklisted from media. I know my patients needing hips and knees will not suffer due to any ban.

Anonymous said...

Y’all, it’s going to be okay. I just heard Socrates is in the game and is going to save us all!

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Obligatory Covidiots in 3...2...1...

Anonymous said...

Somebody summarize it, I don't have an hour to waste. I assume he's still against wearing masks because of a lack of they protect the wearer when the reality is they are supposed to protect those who are around an infected person who may not know they are contagious.

I will point out that right now Mississippi has the 3rd highest death rate in the nation, behind only New Jersey and Arizona. We are also seventh in the new infection rate. Obviously we need to do something different. An enforceable ban on gatherings of more than 20 people, closing bars and nightclubs, and a mandatory mask requirement for anyone out in public would be a good start.

Anonymous said...

9:15 We probably had the highest death rate before COVID. Take a look at the percentage of Mississippians that die every year from heart disease, hypertension, and diabetes. We are No. 1!

Not saying COVID shouldn't be taken serious, but we were the sickest state before COVID, so it stands to reason that we will be one of the sickest states with COVID. We had a shitty health status before and we still do.

Anonymous said...

I say we go wide open and let nature run its course.
All herds need to be thinned from time to time.

Anonymous said...

Let me sum up Osterholm.

The fools will always look for a way to say the rules don't apply to them, from seat belts to DUI laws to public health. Or say, wearing a mask in the Capitol, ahem.

Here's Osterholm: "Osterholm said that his position was not that masks shouldn’t be worn — he wears one in public, himself — but that there is limited data on how effective DIY cloth masks are at stopping small particles, either from passing through or being forced out the sides of the mask. Without that information, he said, physical distancing and isolation remain the most important tools in stopping the spread of the coronavirus."

"It has been reported that I am against wearing cloth masks in public, and that's not true."

IOTW, he early on adopted the "insider who's an outsider" contrarian stance (as he delights "in breaking eggs") on masks, and adopted the bad side of the Perfect is the Enemy of the Good strategy.

And he couches it in terms of "Well, I didn't SAY don't wear masks... " and then deflects by correctly stating social distancing is more important (if it's done WITH MASKS even HE SAYS).

But the TP Sheep and those who isolate at the beach house are worried about revenue, so they sell it as "No Masks, No Shutdowns, No Change, Pack the Bars, Pack the Schools, (cuz I Don't Have a Set and Care Only About Myself)."

It's a win win for the ignorant.

Anything less than Level A (you see Eric T tweeting simpleton memes like that) is not 100%, so it's not worthy reducing risk by 50%.

Or, N95 are the "bare minimum" in clinical settings, and there could be shortages, so you simpletons (he criticized his own OBGYN daughter for "only" having a surgical mask in a delivery room), should not deplete them, and anything else does not have a peer reviewed gold standard study, so don't try. (Even with 172 studies indicating masks help greatly) But when you deal with large numbers, even a small percent of positive effect help has enormous impact. That is always left out, deliberately.

Dr. Osterholm wears a mask.

This is yet again propaganda, portrayed as "independent thinking." Yet, it costs lives. But it "sells" even as it kills. Makes me sick to think what's coming. Well, it's already here, but Cletus can't figger it out.

But the funniest thing with Osterholm is, he's "shocked." "Why is there so much backlash?" Well, Mr. Flat Earth Contrarian. That's how science works. You can spread only so much bull for so long before you get called out. And, he's done that for many years. Loves the attention, good or bad. He's a pretzel trying to contort himself to the get out of the corner he's painted himself into on masks, but it's been years coming. He never surprises me.

Anonymous said...

Hoax plandemic chicken little's are never going to listen to the opposing facts. This is their latest religion, just like climate change. You can't see any tangible effects beyond the economic damage they create.

But they have the media, an army of experts in lockstep consensus, and they have their faith that the computer models are accurate.

Like all zealots you can't argue with them. They are true believers. So put on your face diaper and BE AFRAID!

Anonymous said...

A few good points he makes.

1) We are not seeing the increase in cases because of increased testing. We are 27th in the world for per capita testing and we are seeing increasing positive rates in tests.
2) The current rise in number of cases is primarily in younger age groups hence the lower death rates. As the younger crowd passes this back to those more at risk, the death rate will go back up. He says Father’s Day will likely contribute to this.
3) He thinks we should close bars to slow the spread in the younger folks and provide financial assistance to bars even though some will view that as socialism.
4) He says we need multiple plans based on the shifting nature of this. As the virus spreads through different segments of the population, we will require different strategies to slow the spread. Coming up with a single plan now for reopening schools doesn’t make sense because we won’t be in the same situation once it’s time to reopen.
5) He thinks if we dont get a vaccine, we will still reach herd immunity but that will mean around 160 million Americans will get the virus.
6) he thinks that making this virus a political issue has hurt us greatly when comparing us to other countries.
7) we are paying the price for reopening Willy nilly.

Anonymous said...

10:30 I wasn't clear. Those death and infection rates are just for COVID. They don't include deaths for other things like heart attacks, car crashes, or just old age.

Anonymous said...

11:24, You are actively making people dumber by sharing your bs and that makes you a true Mississippian. If you aren’t able to understand the science, that only reflects on your own intelligence and speaks to the great challenge we have in fighting stupidity in this state and country.

Anonymous said...

I did the quarantine as instructed.
Worked from home, grocery deliveries and not one person in my home for 3 months.

Yet I watched as others had “just a few friends and family” over for Easter, Memorial Day, Mother and Fathers Day.
They went to the beach, or the lake or snuck a fishing trip in with a friend or two while I was home.

If everyone had followed the rules we might not be here.
But I have no plans to quarantine again while half the state enjoys life with no restrictions.

And unless you shut down Walmart and churches, y’all need to stop talking about closing bars.
All or nothing.

And you people who couldn’t do it right the first time are to blame because people like me aren’t taking one for the team again, now that y’all are suddenly concerned.

Anonymous said...

Amen 10:38!

Anonymous said...

@9:15. Maybe you abd I are reading two different sites regarding Mississippi having the 3rd highest death rate in the nation.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

Anonymous said...

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/states/mississippi/mississippi.htm

Anonymous said...

5:19 Yes, we are looking at two different statistics. The one you posted looks at total deaths from the virus since the beginning of the pandemic. The one I was looking at in the Washington Post covers the current death and infection rate using just the past week.

Mississippi's infection rate is rising quickly and we are near the top right now compared to a state like New York that has gotten their rate under control even though they had a lot more deaths in March and April. New York is #1 on your list for total deaths while it is #34 on the list for deaths in the past week. You have to look at what is happening right now to determine mitigation procedures.



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