Jackson Jambalaya

Nursing home outbreaks are on the increase. Do you think that is a result of the old, retired people going to bars, nightclubs, pool parties, and other large gatherings where no masks are worn and no social distancing is observed? Nope, that would be the health care workers and/or their kids that are keeping the community spread going. That is why controlling the disease is so important. You can't say "if you're at risk just stay home and let me do what I want" because this infectious disease can ultimately affect anyone.

We are either going to voluntarily start practicing mitigation or the government is going to have no choice but to force it on us.

I am sick and tired of this fake news on the plandemic. I am a medical expert who received my MD from reading Facebook posts and did a residency on Twitter. I have even done research by Googling a few times to find studies that prove that Covid-19 is a HOAX. I'm tired of these Covidiots! You'll never see me wearing a democrat facemask! I dare them to try to shut the economy down again. Sheeple!! BAH!!

Keep wearing those masks pulled down in public. Extra kudos to those of you who don't even bother wearing one. Soon we will have Real Pandemic Numbers for the history books!

--Team Chaos

Deaths flat. ICU flat. Vents flat. Hospitalizations rising rapidly for over a week now. Why hasn't there been an increase in deaths, icu patients, and vented patients? Something isn't adding up.

3:10, you are right. The only thing that adds up is hospital revenues. They are being paid obscene rates for patients who test positive regardless of the severity of their symptoms. Got a slight fever and a cough? Get admitted!

3:10 - I think it's the lag. You can't cure this, so people with illnesses serious enough to be admitted don't get better right away... a lot of them keep getting worse, despite treatment, and end up in the ICU or on vents. Relatively few people get admitted straight to the ICU. Give it another week and see where those numbers are at.

This is so weird. Normally the flu is gone by now.

Why is old white guy not wearing mask in store so angry? Every one of them is pissed.

@3:10 ROTFLMAO, you're barely figuring it out now? Well, there's still a lot of people out there that are being duped so welcome to the club.

@3:05, won't the people who aren't wearing masks be the first to die?

We want - no, check that - we NEED football season in 2 months. Therefore, we must follow the advice of the coaches:

https://twitter.com/finebaum/status/1278437470636511241

@4:07pm - We can only hope so.

Rt rate has pretty consistently been 1.12 - 1.17 since Memorial Day. They have adjusted down for the one-time spike last week (it did show 1.26), but even at the current level it means things are going to double every six weeks.

More problematic is what happens after July 4? We will almost surely see another spike like we saw after Memorial Day. The Rt could easily go to 1.25 and stay there.

There isn’t going to be any college football this fall 4:28

We need to keep this going on long as it takes until everybody agrees to obey the government. Finally we can have a country like they have in China!

One thing is certain - in another two weeks, we'll need to give it two more weeks to find out.

You better not laugh when the hearse goes by, for you might be the next to die.

The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out...

(to be continued...)

4:54 PM There won't be any high school football either.

If this level of new cases continues, there will be no football. On the bright side, I will be able to park in the Grove on game day, just like the old days.

3:10,

Deaths from COVID are not a reliable metric for tracking the spread or infectious nature of the virus. One, deaths lag way behind initial diagnosis, typically, and could come weeks or months after onset of symptoms because hospitalization could last that long. Two, Mississippi’s COVID-19 deaths have decreased recently because deaths in long-term care facilities have also decreased due to widespread testing and greater quarantine procedures there.

That’s according to the data, Mississippi doctors, and the state health officer.

This is obviously punishment for killing the flag.

2:57 - Americans have the choice to not care. Nursing homes have the choice to hire whoever they wish and the people they hire have the choice to live however they wish. The residents’ families have a choice to keep them in nursing homes or care for them on their own. Lots of choices. That’s how freedom works. Sorry it bothers you so badly.

Freedom for freedumbs

@7:43 AM
And gulags for the petit bourgeoisie, right?

Your not even a liberal. You are a damn statist. Or at worst a full communist.

“Deaths flat. ICU flat. Vents flat. Hospitalizations rising rapidly for over a week now. Why hasn't there been an increase in deaths, icu patients, and vented patients? Something isn't adding up.”

Give it a week. Dobbs said it takes 10-14 days once hospitalized to end up in the ICU and/or on a vent — or die.

Some thoughts:

It isn't the total number of cases ever, it is the increase in cases from X date to Y date - in the current situation, from about the first couple of weeks in June to the present. Combine that with the uptick in deaths over the same period and you have all the signs of a very dangerous increase in infections and deaths. And yes, the deaths will naturally lag the increase in infections by a couple of weeks because most who die don't die within a few days of becoming infected. But on top of the deaths are the number of people with serious but not (immediately) fatal effects. A statistically meaningful number of people that survive have life- and lifespan-altering effects. We won't have much data on that aspect for years.

While the term of art, "asymptomatic," is often used, it really isn't all that accurate for most people. In reality, most who don't get really sick actually have very mild symptoms that they don't realize are symptoms. In other words, they have very mild coughs, etc., that they don't associate with COVID. The problem with this is that we don't know how long, if any, immunity is developed by such infections, plus, there is likely none developed against significant viral mutations. The problem with that is that the more people infected, regardless of level of individual illness, the greater the transmission rate and chance of significant mutations. RNA viruses mutate often because they have no "error checking" and while many mutations are detrimental to the virus, some will be "successful," meaning a "better" virus (for the virus, not those infected). Think of it like a change to baseball allowing 30 strikes and 40 balls for each batter or to football allowing 40 downs - the more chances, the better the odds of scoring. Conversely, change it to one pitch per batter or one chance at a touchdown, and the odds go way down. Another example is dominoes - set up 100. 1000, or a million dominoes 8 (8, not 6) inches apart - toppling one has no effect on the rest. One potential scenario is that the population develops "herd immunity" to the current strain and its close mutations, but the virus mutates enough to be outside the range of that as-yet-uncertain level of immunity.

The bottom line is that we need to get the rate of infection way down and the level of symptoms or illness experienced by infected individuals is merely one component of the overall situation.

Anyone who thinks wearing a mask and a few weeks/months of comparatively minor restrictions on things that spread transmission are unacceptable freedom-infringing things really, really won't like what will become necessary if we don't get the rate of transmission way down, especially when - not if - the virus successfully mutates in an uncontrolled transmission scenario.

Bo Bounds on 105.9 says that the 'rona is overrated and there will be a football season. He has his own radio show. Therefore, we should believe what he says.

Thank you 9:13 am

You are spot on.

The only thing I'd add is that deaths are down ONLY because we are getting patients in earlier with testing and have hit on some helpful treatments...both of which aid in survival.

That will go away, of course, when hospitals have to turn away sick patients. And, other causes of death will add to the toll.

My only hope at this point lies with the Israeli breath test that I pray isn't being over-hyped. We could then better isolate the contagious but I fear the " I wanna be free" people will still value their entertainments over the survival of the Nation.

The federal and state governments have totally abandoned and ignored the elderly in nursing homes. The united states is turning out to be worse than more third world countries with respect to controlling COVID-19.

Deaths are not up for several reasons - the lag, better care, younger people infected. Stay tuned two weeks from now.

9:13 am, responding to 11:18am -

You're welcome, but one thing: this isn't about "the Nation" or any other political subdivide, be it a town, county, state, or country, it is about the human race. That may sound like hyperbole. It is not. When I wrote about getting the rate of transmission way down, I was referring to the entire world. In the modern world, we cannot and will not solve this problem by geographically-limited containment. The various "spring break" and other "go there and then go home" spikes in the US and in other areas, along with the initial transmission spread from a severely locked-down Wuhan, should be evidence enough for any sensible person.

Compare the results in Canada to those in the US. They are healthy. We are fools.