Saturday, January 28, 2017

Emmitt Till accuser admits she lied

Is the truth finally coming out about the Emmitt Till case? The facts of the case are known to virtually every adult in Mississippi.  The woman who claimed young Till grabbed her and whistled at her recanted her accusations from over sixty years ago. Vanity Fair published a story about an author who managed to interview her in 2007.  The interview is part of a new book about the Till murder.  Vanity Fair reported: 

On a steamy hot September day in 1955, in a racially segregated courtroom in Sumner, Mississippi, two white men, J.W. Milam and his half-brother Roy Bryant—a country-store owner—were acquitted of the murder of a 14-year-old black Chicago boy. His name was Emmett Till. And in August of that year, while visiting a Deep South that he didn’t understand, Till had entered a store to buy two cents worth of bubble gum. Shortly after exiting, he likely whistled at Bryant’s 21-year-old wife, Carolyn. Enraged, Bryant and Milam took matters into their own hands. They would later admit to local authorities that they’d abducted Till three nights later. And when they finished with him, his body was so hideously disfigured from having been bludgeoned and shot that its horrifying depiction—in a photo in Jet magazine—would help to propel the American civil rights movement.

Milam and Bryant were arrested, and, with the aid of NAACP Mississippi field secretary Medgar Evers and other black activists in seeking out witnesses, the prosecution produced compelling evidence. Even so, it wasn’t a surprise when the all-white, all-male jury voted “not guilty,” in little over an hour. ....

But the most explosive testimony, which certainly influenced the local white public’s perception of the motive for the murder, were the incendiary words of Carolyn Bryant, who was working in the store that night. On the stand, she had asserted that Till had grabbed her and verbally threatened her. She said that while she was unable to utter the “unprintable” word he had used (as one of the defense lawyers put it), “he said [he had]’”—done something – “with white women before.’” Then she added, “I was just scared to death.” A version of her damning allegation was also made by the defendant’s lawyers to reporters. (The jury did not hear Carolyn’s words because the judge had dismissed them from the courtroom while she spoke, ruling that her testimony was not relevant to the actual murder. But the court spectators heard her, and her testimony was put on the record because the defense wanted her words as evidence in a possible appeal in the event that the defendants were convicted.)....

 In a new book, The Blood of Emmett Till (Simon & Schuster), Timothy Tyson, a Duke University senior research scholar, reveals that Carolyn—in 2007, at age 72—confessed that she had fabricated the most sensational part of her testimony. “That part’s not true,” she told Tyson, about her claim that Till had made verbal and physical advances on her. As for the rest of what happened that evening in the country store, she said she couldn’t remember. (Carolyn is now 82, and her current whereabouts have been kept secret by her family.)....

 But as Carolyn became reflective in Timothy Tyson’s presence, wistfully volunteering, “Nothing that boy did could ever justify what happened to him.” She also admitted she “felt tender sorrow,” Tyson would note, “for Mamie Till-Mobley”—Emmett Till’s mother, who died in 2003 after a lifetime spent crusading for civil rights.....Rest of article. 

The horror created because she refused to tell the truth.  Oh hell, I can't write anymore.  I'm too sickened and disgusted by this story.  Give her to ISIS.


Anonymous said...

I'm certain the boy would have never been killed if the killers would have known the storm they would have started. Imagine how well off we would be today if he was never killed.

Anonymous said...

We know time can and does bring forth the truth of inhumane and sub-human depravity, after it has caused it's destruction no less, as Ms. Bryant has proved. The rabid nature of the white mob during those times look no different than the crowds at trump rally's before the recent election everything based on lies right before everyone who had eyes yet none would see.

Ronald Tillman said...

How many other times has a lie like this been told before and after the till situation? Probably 1000's of times nationwide. I wish there was someway possible to bring her up on charges of perjury for the problems she has caused, conspiracy to commit murder or something of the nature.It was women like her that was the main catalyst for the racial tensions and unprovoked fear of another race in this country.She is the real true meaning of the animal that many of the commenters on this blog refers too.

Anonymous said...

I knew it. And I'm sure I'm not the only one either that had that hunch either.

Anonymous said...

12:04 I feel certain that a great number of murders wished they had not killed anyone. And the world would be a better place without murder. I don't think this is news to anyone.

Anonymous said...

Yep! WHITE Trash has long been Mississippi's OTHER insurmountable problem.

Without the overreactions of the WT, things would have gone a whole lot better.

Anonymous said...

Right amount of money will make many people lie. I wonder if she is still lying? As an aside, I have know a lot of poor southern folks that were not trash. Also, many wealthy southern white folks that were, let us say, a bit shady

Anonymous said...

Right amount of money will make many people lie. I wonder if she is still lying? As an aside, I have know a lot of poor southern folks that were not trash. Also, many wealthy southern white folks that were, let us say, a bit shady

Anonymous said...

Try to understand that the Till case was merely a well publicized incident in thousands of incidents propelling the civil rights movement. On the whole, long before Till black people in the south knew that the accusation by a white woman of even the most miniscule offense could be a death sentence. They also knew that "law enforcement" and the courts were agents of the mob bent on oppressing black people without appeal or remorse. The Emmitt Till case crystalized this reality for observers outside Mississippi because of pictures and reporting, something lacking in other cases. Had the Till case not happened the movement would have still run it's course, it might have taken longer, but the bloody reality of over 300 years had to change.

Anonymous said...


Has it changed?

Sure white people don't openly Lynch blacks any longer....

But the deaths are withdrawal.

Schools, churches, land, jobs, hell now whole towns are moving. Clarksdale moved to Oxford, Greenwood to Cleveland....etc.

Yes it's on both sides....but the wealth moved away. The tax base that provided "better opportunities" vanished.

Mississippi is basically a 1942 waiting room....whites over here....blacks over there.

The tie that binds is green....and it's fading fast....then what?

Anonymous said...

5:10 Yes it's changed quite a bit. Are the problems solved? Is complete justice achieved? Hell No. But progress has been made, and people who once had no chance now have opportunities for self-determination. Opportunities not guarantees. Much work remains to be done, but at least this generation has the means to fight injustice and oppression even if they choose not to.

Anonymous said...

5:10, no it hasn't changed... a black man in Grenada has to take a man slaughter plea and a white woman isn't even charged in Madison for the same thing...leaving their child in a car to die...Judges giving different sentences to Black, Hispanic and white people... Racism lives, you can ignore it, but it won't go away.

Anonymous said...

Let her burn in hell.

Anonymous said...

Gotta watch out for those white folk setting fire to black churches and scrawling 'Vote Trump' on the building.

Anonymous said...

Wonder how Nephew Philly feels?

Anonymous said...

OK, so why are we just now hearing this? If the admission came ten years ago, why not make it public then?

Anonymous said...

7:31 Black people are mayors, judges, policemen, prosecutors, and yes, even presidents, and you can say that nothing has changed? There are significant problems, and some grave disparities, but to say that nothing has changed is an insult to the suffering of past generations of black people who endured far more than people today can imagine. And yes, people get prosecuted differently in different counties in Mississippi, black and white. There is no consistency and there never was. That is not tantamount to slavery or what happened to Emmitt Till. Pleeeeeese.

Anonymous said...

7:31 Please don't try to say that we live in a post racial society. Tell me you didn't move to the suburbs and that your children don't go to a private school.

Anonymous said...

Don't judge the people of today by the acts of a few in the past.

Anonymous said...

"Tell me you didn't move to the suburbs and that your children don't go to a private school."

I see this kind of crap comment repetitively. What's up with that? Who the hell would not pull their children out of a swimming pool infested with shit, urine and infectious scum, given the chance? Regardless of race.

And, no. My children don't go to private school. They go to an integrated public school in Madison.

Alpha Storm said...

7:31 PM you deal with what goes on in Grenada and we'll deal with what goes on in Madison County.

Anonymous said...

2:06, please tell me what residential areas within the City Limits of Jackson are NOT suburbs. Please google the term, and get back to me. Actually, I'll save you the trouble. Aside from Downtown, and a few clusters of tiny houses adjacent Downtown, virtually ALL of Jackson's residential areas are suburbs, of varying ages and densities.

And are you aware how many BLACK families in Jackson send their children to private schools? Quite a few do, and this has been ongoing for decades.

Reality Check... said...

9:37 - Save your breath. You are talking to people who actually get their news from Bill Minor, Donner Ladd and Jerry Mitchell.

Kingfish said...

Oh yes, the old "white folks move to the burbs" argument.

I might take it seriously but for a few facts.

Every election the WMPR and Bennie Thompson crowd starts running ads saying that certain blacks are supported by whites so don't vote for them. Any black politician who has white support is the target of flyers and talk radio speeches that say he is working with The Klan.

I've yet to see any of the liberals in town, including the Link, Advocate, and JFP speak out against these tactics.

A certain talk show on WMPR has an Uncle Tom of the Year award. I've yet to see the Advocate, Link, and JFP speak out against it.

The truth is there is a sizeable segment of the black community wants to take money from the whites and the business community, tax the hell out of them, but then wants them to get lost when its election day or when decisions are made. It's called having the cake and eating it too.

Anonymous said...

KF @ 8:38 nails it again. A page out of the Brand Book of Politics has been borrowed by the most unlikely players.

Anonymous said...

@ Kingfish

I disagree with you. Look at New Orleans, New York, Chicago, Dallas - cities that had white politicians that were elected by a black majority, or hefty number in their constituency.

Blacks do not like taxes anymore than whites, but black people want police officers who patrol without bias. Good roads, safe schools, places to shop, a good public transit system.

Most blacks in America stay in urban environments, so transportation is a major focus. The ability to get to work and back home at reasonable cost. Opportunity for gainful employment, to where eventually you can save up some money to perhaps open a business one day. A place at the table to discuss these matters.

But due to perception, many white people do not want blacks at the table. But at the same token, expect black people to be silent and contribute just the same without a seat at the table?

Its amazing to see the stuff that is said on this website often.

Assumption is the rule and perception is the compass for many on here.

Until you start paying attention and truly listen, instead of assuming, then you will learn what black people truly want in this country.

Anonymous said...

Kingfish, "having your cake and eating it too" is as American as apple pie. Black people and whites are no different in that respect. It's only when the victims rise up and demand a voice in the decision making process that they are allowed a seat at the table. Whites can find themselves taken for granted just like black people if they don't take the time to participate in the decision making process. Black people have for so long gotten used to the idea that their voices are irrelevant anyway, so they say damn near anything on the radio or in print. Your objections should be made loud and clear so that WMPR or whoever you are complaining about will realize that their statements do carry weight and consequence beyond the black
community. Some people really don't fathom that. Really.

Anonymous said...

Too little, too late.
She lied, and an innocent kid died.
She is fortunate that the God we serve is merciful, for I would show her none. I don't care how old she is.

Kingfish said...

I was referring to Jackson, not all of those other Bergs.

Anonymous said...

@ Kingfish

Let's be honest when it comes to black people in Jackson and what they have endured since 1865 in this area.

Just because America has a elected a mixed fella to become President, the past is washed away.

One black person moves into Alta Vista, the rest of the neighborhood packs up and leaves. How do you think that makes a person feel? Imagine you are a doctor or a lawyer, who makes an honest living, but because your skin color is different, your neighbors do not want to associate with you, they do not want their kids to play together. Because you know how kids are curious and play hide and go seek.

Its mentally draining to be around people who do not want to see you succeed. Who want to see you fail, simply because they think you are sub-human and impure. Eventually, that mental angst turns into hate and jealousy.

Its sad when people of the same economic background, same level of intelligence, but yet because of your skin color and hair texture; you are not worthy of a place at the table of civic discussion?

The lynchings, the church bombings, the segregation have affected both sides of the racial divide. Its hard for people who have been affected by those things to let'em go, while the descendants of the perpetrators want to return to those days just so that they can maintain power and economic control over a group of people.

What makes it all so bad, is that many of the people from this area are probably related to each other, white people with black cousins and black people with white cousins. If you are black or white, and your family roots are in the deep south, and can trace them for the last 200 years, with certainty you have family on both sides of the color line.

Acknowledge the harm done in the past, empathize with both sides to come to some understanding, our children must learn how to play together, in order to be able to work together when they get older.

Anonymous said...

1:54, The white families who lived in Alta Vista had the same right to move out as the black family had to move in. No one has the right to make other families live where they do not want to live. A family does not have to give a reason for moving.

Anonymous said...

Arguments regarding public transit and 'reasonable costs to get to work' are totally irrelevant to this discussion. This is Jackson, Mississippi. Nobody here uses public transit to get to work. Take a look at any bus stop in Jackson and I will kiss your ass if those people are 'going to work'.

There is no such thing as a melting pot. Jackson's problems are not Chicago's problems are not Newark's problems. Our problems here are youth with single parents and they have zero home training and a culture of entitlement and they will take your shit at the drop of a hat. Until you people are willing to accept and deal with that, nothing will change. It's your responsibility, not mine.

Anonymous said...

@ 5:36pm

That is true. It is your god given right to move wherever you want. But lets be honest. Did they move because they couldn't afford their home anymore or they wanted something bigger and better? Or did they move simply because they couldn't care less for their neighbors? That is systemic racism. Point blank period!

Anonymous said...

@ 7:46pm

"Take a look at any bus stop in Jackson and I will kiss your ass if those people are 'going to work'."

So you automatically ASSUMED they are not going to work?

Another person who's perception is their reality. SMH

Anonymous said...

9:02. since when did people have to give a reason for moving? Lots of people move because they see their neighborhood starting to slide downhill. They want to get something for their home before the value drops. You can call that anything you want but it really isn't any of your damn business. Why are you not complaining about the blacks moving out of the place they used to live? What reason do they have to move?

Anonymous said...

@ 9:51am

That's a damn good question and one that has been asked numerous times.

Most blacks want to live in a diverse community and believe that living in a white neighborhood means they have improved the economic footing, however down south, once one black family moves in, people become leery. Two move in, for sale signs go up.

So the cycle begins all over again.

It's a vicious cycle, its a sad cycle.

I want a bigger house myself, but best believe I will stay in Jackson. I want neighbors who maintain their yards, their property. I want easy access to the interstate and shopping. I would like a diverse community, because it reflects the real world. The main thing, I just want good citizens that care about their own backyard and community.

Anonymous said...

10:33, so would it be correct to call the blacks that move into a white community racist against their own color? If they are not racists why would people call white people racist for thinking the same thing?

I lived in Jackson years ago. A nice little house in south Jackson. Well kept yards and nice friendly neighbors. Now I can drive down the street where I used to live and the houses are falling down. Windows are boarded up or broken out. Wrecked cars are all over the yards. Even some houses have 8" high fences around them to protect their property from their neighbors. You can call me racist all you want for moving out when I could still sell my home. The only people left from the old neighborhood are those who have to live behind the 8' fences. I now live in a nice area where there is very little crime, houses are maintained, yards mowed, no cars up on blocks in the front yards, no all night parties, and no people wandering the streets all night long.

I can understand some black families wanting to move into a better neighborhood. The problem I see is they bring with them the things they wanted to get away from in their old neighborhoods.

Anonymous said...

"Most blacks want to live in a diverse community and believe that living in a white neighborhood means they have improved the economic footing..."

Can you cite any believable basis for that statement? I'm not saying you're a liar....only that you made that up and it has no foundation in truth.

Anonymous said...

@ 11:37am

Good question

I don't think blacks or whites can be "racist" against people of the same ethnicity. But I do believe in class warfare and having a false sense of superiority and inferiority to a particular group of people.

But in my honest opinion, blacks of middle class economic means do not like staying in predominant black neighborhoods, henceforth why you see so many black yuppies or bourgeoiuse, moving to the new sub-divisions of Rankin and Madison County's.

It's a measuring stick for the success and to prove they are just as good as their white counterparts.

Anonymous said...

@ 5:05pm

Here's an excerpt from an article that I would recommend you read to get a clearer picture,

"We hear much about “White flight,” but its Black flight, the move of successful Black city-dwellers to the suburbs to escape dangerous Black neighborhoods, that has decimated the Black community. White suburbs are as much of a status symbol as they are a safe haven. Like most of my friends, I was conditioned to believe that success meant making it out of the projects — out of my neighborhood. Everyone’s goal is to get out. By virtue, those who are left behind are viewed as underachievers. Those who are successful in their quest often never look back. What is left is a Black community devoid of people with the education and financial capital to uplift it."

That gives a good angle on a personal level.

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