Thursday, July 16, 2015

Ronnie strikes out.... again.

Hinds County Chancellor William Singletary chopped down former Governor Ronnie Musgrove's efforts to use the courts to force Mississippi to cough up another $240 million for the MAEP formula with machete-like logic.  


Mr. Musgrove filed suit in August 2014 as the attorney for Okolona Municipal Separate School District, Clay County School District, Hattiesburg Public School District, Wayne County School District, Prentiss County School District, XYZ School Districts 1-134, Smith County School District, Simpson County School District, Greenville Public School District, Clarksdale Municipal School District, West Tallahatchie School District, Wilkinson County School District, Tate County School District, Leake County School District, and Richton School District.



The Chancellor stated that the legislature had not "fully funded" the MAEP in the last five years.  The school districts argued that the law mandated the Legislature had to provide 100% of the funding for MAEP. However, the court ruled that the argument ignored another part of the law (Section 37-151-7(1)(f)) that provided "alternative procedures" to fully funding MAEP.   The court stated "the legislature intentionally included specific alternative procedures to full funding; this alternative procedure demonstrates the Legislature's realization that full funding may not occur every year." 

The court granted the defense's motion for judgement.  Mr. Musgrove said he will appeal the decision.


41 comments:

Anonymous said...

When will MAEP stop begging for more money? And, better yet, when will they realize that more money is not the answer to their problems??

Gub Watch said...

Musgrove was/is always half-cocked. Once again, totally out of his element (whatever it is).

Anonymous said...

Educators are not asking for "more" money...they are asking for the amount State law suggests will give students an adequate education. I'm a republican and a former educator. This fight is exhaustive. Mississippi schools are rotting (and termite infested), poor schools do not have books. Should I go back to work as an educator- I can assure you, it won't be in Mississippi.

Anonymous said...

Musgrove seems like he doesn't understand the difference between funding and improving. Just cause you throw money at a problem does not make it go away. He seems similar to the Kenny "it's all about the chirren" Stokes. He wants the money dumped in so he can get his cut and be damned to all the State of MS employees that may end up unemployed, be damned to their families and be damned the to the services state agencies will have to cut.

Anonymous said...

7:23 AM is an example of a racist. He will probably say...."no, I have black friends." Well I bet you don't say "chillren" around your one black friend who is also your dentist you see once every 6 months.

To denigrate Kenneth Stokes by pointing out his dialect you are telling all that you do not care for black people. Don't lie...cause no one here is going to believe you after that post.

Anonymous said...

To 7:22.....Yes, "Educators" ARE asking for more money....and they do it every year. And every year, when they get "more" money, the outcomes of our school systems is the same....POOR! The "educators" are the problem. 1) cut the number of schools systems at least in half! 2) Require performance based pay for teachers. 3) Allow the "money to follow the student". If someone's child is in a poor performing scool system, allow them to move. I'm not sure why "educators" think pumping more money into a failed system will make it a better system. Fix the broken system, then, "more money" will not be needed.

Failed System Watch said...

7:53 muss don't live in Canton. That's one of the most poorly performing districts in the state. They just passed a multi million dollar bond issue to build stuff, lay new tile and spruce up teachers' lounges across the district - all under the guise of 'heppin the chirrin'.

Their recently retired superintendent, himself a failure as an educator, was just hired by the Kosciusko School Board to serve as their superintendent. Say WHAT? Yep.

Anonymous said...

7:44 -

If Kenneth (Kenuff) took the time to learn English and speak it properly, he wouldn't open himself up to such ridicule.

Anonymous said...

at 7:44

"To denigrate Kenneth Stokes by pointing out his dialect you are telling all that you do not care for black people."

Not so. His example is no different than Marshall Ramsey cartooning the buffoon. Marshall (and the poster at 7:23), like most folks, see and hear him for what he is.

Anonymous said...

7:22 - You yourself assumed that was a white person that posted that - making you prejudiced. Throw a race card when you have no other tactic. That person is right though. Fully fund education and all state agencies will have to be cut. That puts folks of all colors out of work. Which will increase unemployment. Which will increase handouts from the government. Which will decrease personal spending and tax revenue, which will result in less money in the state coffers. Which will result in education being funded less than it is now in the future. Which can result in in increase in crime. Reform is the answer. That and not resorting to race-baiting as it is the lowest common denominator of arguments.

Anonymous said...

7:44......Well, Dude, YES, I DO believe him and so do most other people (except libral Dems like you). .......and your typical libral response to the truth when you have no legimate retort is to call someone "racist". Go blow somewhere else.

Anonymous said...

"To denigrate Kenneth Stokes by pointing out his dialect you are telling all that you do not care for black people. Don't lie...cause no one here is going to believe you after that post."

Wrong - after becoming very familiar with the destruction he has caused in Jackson (and Hinds County) we hate Stokes. If you ever read this blog you would have seen 100s, maybe 1000s, of complaints about his incompetence, lying, grafting, etc. It is not my fault this law school graduate cannot speak English comprehensibly.

Anonymous said...

Hey 7:44

You're tryin to help by saying "chillren" but that's not what the poster or Kenneff says... it's chirren. You're obviously somewhat smarter than Stokes.

Anonymous said...

Robin Costa is HOT! Ronnie does some things half-right.

Anonymous said...

8:10 is correct, but he/she failed to mention the most frustrating fact. The bond used to spruce up the Canton school facilities will be funded primarily by the portion of the tax base that would never consider sending their children to Canton schools, due to the district's continuous poor performance. The area west of I55 and south of hwy 22 needs to be in the Germantown district.

Anonymous said...

To denigrate Kenneth Stokes by pointing out his dialect you are telling all that you do not care for black people.

There you go again being stupid.

Anonymous said...

The Canton Bond issue was plain and simple a tax grab.

If you live in Madison County and anywhere near Canton's borders you damn well be ready to open your checkbook because spending to fight a Canton annexation -- a fight which can be won -- is going to be way less expensive than the annual property tax bill you'll receive into perpetuity if you don't.

Anonymous said...

Tell you what.

If you think it is perfectly acceptable to refer to "Kennuff" and "chirren" and other "axe" I dare you to go up to Kenneth and state the same thing to his face.

You won't because you are a coward and you know he would rightly be offended by your statement. He would probably also knock you out.

You come on here and post like a ghost....no way to find you and smack your face....which is what needs to occur.

KF should probably stop accepting posts which contain references to a black person's inability to articulate certain words as Caucasians do. Of course, one day when litigation occurs over some arcane issue and KF's service provider is subpoenaed...maybe all your names will come out and we can see how you act when your employers/friends/spouses see your true colors.

Anonymous said...

"... they are asking for the amount State law suggests will give students an adequate education."

The one thing Musgrove achieved is laying out for all to see that fully funding MAEP is NOT a mandatory budget requirement as Patsy, Nancy and that cackling clutch of Init 42 hair bobs try to tell people it is.

MAEP is a massively broken formula that only increases even when other state economic metrics are stagnant and/or on the decrease. It is the largest escalating unfunded mandate in Mississippi history and nothing more than a redistributionist stealth jobs program than it is about actually educating students successfully.

If you believe Patsy's bullshit that the Init 42/MAEP cultists will happily not go to court and, instead, will abide by the "suggestion" that full funding for MAEP be allowed to ramp up over 7+ years YOU ARE A FOOL WHO SHOULD NOT BE VOTING because you'll believe anything.

Anonymous said...

@6:51 AM, I think when to comes to Ms. Costa our former Governor was going off full-cocked. So your claim that he "is always half-" is technically incorrect.

Anonymous said...

Just curious: How thoroughly destroyed and degraded will Hinds County and Jackson have to be before calling their leaders idiots will not be racist?

Is there, like, a third world country we could use as a line of demarcation? Or do enlightened people just have to keep patting them on the head forever while lives get ruined? Is that now the progressive thing to do?

Anonymous said...

As anonymous 11:02 calls another anonymous poster a coward for hiding behind anonymity, we all stand in awe of anon 11:02's intestinal fortitude. Damn, I'm impressed, and promise to change my anon ways. Thank you, THANK YOU for showing me the error of my ways.

Anonymous said...

Roger, that, 11:06.

Fools who should not be voting. Fully funding MAEP will not fix the education system and is a massively broken formula.

Tell me, what do you propose instead?

Shrill Shrillingsley said...

Just spit the coffee out 11:06. ROFLMAO

Anonymous said...

Step 1: If the education system is so broken, how do we justify the $300K+/yr salary for the state superintendent of education? I bet there are people that would do a better job for less. Hell, status quo for 1/2 the price - sign me up!

Anonymous said...

You know, it's one thing to say you want more resources dedicated to education. I don't agree, but fine. It's another thing entirely to say that MAEP should be fully funded. That formula absolutely makes no sense unless your intent is to redistribute education funds to democrat controlled areas. Minimum funding levels, no matter the decline in student population. More money if you are proficient at giving away free lunches....The formula just makes no sense.

Ehh maybe some schools need some money.. said...



Home

Anonymous said...

In 11:02's world, the publisher of this blog risks litigation by posting comments critical of a person who can almost talk.

Welcome, America, to the Left-dominated tribal politics.

A ginger from Montana is a black NAACP official.

A male decathlon winner becomes mentally ill, mutilates himself, and is a "woman."

And a douchebag anonymous poster threatens litigation and physical violence for those who make fun of a politician who can't pronounce one-syllable words.

Anonymous said...

Prop 42 is a noble endeavor. However, it will come at the expense of every State Agency who will be asked to give back 8% of their budget. 8% might not sound like a lot, but it is. What is worse, is that it is coming after the start of the fiscal. So all the agencies went to the legislature, begged and cut and haggled, and were given their budget, and planned to fund their programs and services. Now, they will be asked to give back 8%. Don't be upset when programs you depend on are cut if prop 42 passes.

Anonymous said...

Brumfield is as disingenious as they come. If Initiative 42 is passed it will force sooner or later, but 100% without a doubt eventually, either massive govt cuts, huge tax increases or a combination thereof. As another poster alludes, there is no way in Hades the education zealots will wait 7 years or more for their Holy Grail. They'll go to court before that and the entire state of Mississippi will be left up to the conceits of the total dysfunction in the Hinds Judiciary. Do you really think Owens, Thomas or Wise will rule for a gradual measured approach? Nope, they'll rule the "short funding" of MAEP is chronic and needs to be rectified immediately.

ur fn kidding me said...

July 16, 2015 at 10:38 AM
Dude needs a serious eye exam.

Anonymous said...

"@6:51 AM, I think when to comes to Ms. Costa our former Governor was going off full-cocked. So your claim that he "is always half-" is technically incorrect. "

I am shocked - SHOCKED, I say, to hear you speak so disrespectfully of our former governor.

If you remember that lawsuit as I do, he should always be referred to as "that toe-sucker" ;-)

Anonymous said...

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but 99 percent of everybody who was born in Mississippi speak like hicks and hillbillies. Kenneth Stokes may mispronounce words, but Mississippians drag words out so long that it sounds like we are singing. Listen to yourself on a recorder. People all over the country laughs at us. Don't talk about Stokes because we all sound like country bunkins.

Anonymous said...

'KF should probably stop accepting posts which contain references to a black person's inability to articulate certain words as Caucasians do. Of course, one day when litigation occurs over some arcane issue and KF's service provider is subpoenaed...maybe all your names will come out and we can see how you act when your employers/friends/spouses see your true color'
Sir or Madam you are missing something that most all the rest of us understand. The poster was not making fun of some honest, hard working citizen who happens to speak poorly. He was making fun of Kenny Stokes. Kenny Stokes deserves to make fun of. I am certain we could cite pages and pages of examples of his unbelievable incompetence. I will give one example. Several years ago, perhaps 20, it was found that the Jackson City Council had approved some expenditure that was illegal. I don't believe anyone was accused of a crime, but council members has to personally repay the funds to the City. At that point Kenny refused to approve any more payments. For anything. Ever. This went on for years and the other council members let him get away with it. So every week the six of them would approve payments to city employees, contractors, vendors, etc as had to be done to keep the City running while Kenny sat there and protected his fat ass by voting no on all payments...for...everything.

I believe 85-90% of posters on this site would agree and hereby call on Kingfish to run a poll -
'Does Kennith Stokes deserve to be made fun of on a regular basis? Yes or No?

Anonymous said...

Now, the juicy stuff. Hermansen testified in her deposition that in 2001 or 2002, Costa told her and another employee about an encounter with the governor at a house. "She told us that he undressed her and proceeded to lick her toes, and that's just not something I was used to hearing in a business setting, so that made me very uncomfortable," Hermansen said.

In another conversation reported by the witness, during a business meeting in 2002 at Costa's house, the foundation director took her and two other female employees to the bathroom and showed them the seat where she had made out with the governor. "She said, 'This seat is just the right height,'" Hermansen said in her testimony. There were other make-out sessions as well, one on the couch in Costa's office, according to the testimony.

Anonymous said...

2:23

You cannot read and/or comprehend.

No one threatened litigation.

Read it again and don't move your lips this time.

When litigation arises over some arcane issue....something/anything....then during the course of discovery your name (with dunce attached to it) will be attached to your racist posts. Then we will see who laughs

11:12 was closer to the point.

Yes call Stokes to task for bad votes and illegal conduct. You just don't have to call him the N word (and that's what you are doing with Kennuf and Chilren) while you do it.

Anonymous said...

8:20 "Yes call Stokes to task for bad votes and illegal conduct. You just don't have to call him the N word (and that's what you are doing with Kennuf and Chilren) while you do it."

You are the one who is projecting your own racist stereotypes on those who can't speak English understandably despite getting a law degree from a Texas diploma mill.

I was proud to introduce my daughter to Ben Carson last year (she is a pre-med and knows how much he accomplished before changing careers).

I am not responsible for moronic white people although we share the same skin color. Erudite world leaders like Carson (former president of the International Society of Pediatric Neurosurgeons) are not responsible for the buffonery of clowns like Kennuf, even though you seem to think all people with the same skin color should be lumped together.

Kennuf is an embarrassment to his race - the HUMAN race.

Anonymous said...

To 8:20, this is 11:12, you misunderstood my post. Because you did, you have to hear another Kenny story. Kenny found out about a band that could not go the MLK parade. So Kenny hired a bus line to provide transportation. When the bill came due Kenny would not pay it. He was happy to take credit for being the good guy to help the band out, as long as it did not actually cost him anything.
My post was intended to mean make fun of him all the time about everything. The way he talks, how he dresses, what he eats, everything. A very few things, such as if he got cancer, should be off limits.
If you talk with him for five minutes you see that the buffoon is an act. Oh, he believes some stupid things. But no more stupid that Oboma, Nancy Pelosi, and Benny Thompson. What you see on TV is no more him than Tom Hanks is Forrest Gump. But the results, the damage to the taxpayers, has been very real. So he very much deserves to made fun of and I have no doubt he knows it himself.

Com Tameron said...

TOM CAMERON for insurance commissioner.

Anonymous said...

9:59

You are a nut job. McDaniel was your hero....I am certain of it.

You think (and I use that word loosely) that because you met a black guy and had him touch your daughter that somehow you should win the Nobel Prize for race relations?

Here is the only point I made and continue to make - quit, stop, cease, end referring to Kenneth Stokes as "Kennuf" and likewise stop with the "chilren" and such.

You are, as a matter of fact, a racist when you do this. I don't care if your daughter gave her hymen to Ben Carson while the Black Panthers watched.

Call him out for bad conduct? Sure. Call him a racist when it warrants? Yes. Call him the N word for the hell of it? No.

Is that hard to understand?

Anonymous said...

4:42

He says "chirren".. not chilren, okay? STOP tryin to make him look better'n he is.

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