Jackson Jambalaya

"Man dies in police custody" - where is that found in this story? Or is just a catchier headline than the facts bear out?

If he was arrested he was in legal custody, although he seemed to be in physical custody of the hospital when he died.

The drug screen will be of major importance.

the original report omitted the arrest portion of the article. This comment will likely never see the light of day.

What time does the riot start in Southaven and where are folks meeting?

10:30 re: "light of day" - WRONG (file under duh)

"What time does the riot start in Southaven and where are folks meeting?"

And what should we wear? Everyone at the last riot has seen my new "civil disobedience" outfit already.

Drugs are bad, mmmkay...

Well THAT was enlightening! I didn't realize a photo of the Deceased was 'below the scroll', and so googled it. There were two possibilities. A skinny blond guy with nice respectable bangs, and a bearish fella with square black glasses and a greasy little 'Metrosexual Top-knot' hairdo. I was hoping the Deceased was the latter. I hate square black glasses and hair product.

And now I know what 'Widespread Panic' is. I think I've actually heard the band's name, although I apparently have never formed an actual thought about it, like, "What is...?". So, I found a whole concert, on YouTube. Two minutes was enough. I can't tolerate white bands with faux-Ebonic pronunciations. 'Widespread Panic' is all about lingering "readeeeeehhhhh" (for 'ready'), "bawdeeeeeeh" (for 'body'). No thanks. As soon as Punk and New Wave became available, in the Seventies (both tend to be free of faux-Ebonic pronunciations), I stopped listening to bands who sounded like 'Widespread Panic'. One of Ozzy Osbourne's primary charms was that he did NOT attempt to sound as if he'd grown up a shack at the edge of a Mississippi Delta Cotton Field (Singers were actually TOLD to sound that way. Voice coaches helped them deepen their ebonics. Record Industry execs INSISTED it be that way.). In other words, Ozzy didn't sound FAKE: nor did Suzi Quattro, Joan Jett, The Ramones, The B-52s, or Devo.

Since then, I've moved on, and currently listen to bands like Grendel, Hocico, and Amduscia, who don't even sound human. So why have so many others NOT moved on? Why would a young, apparently intelligent, chemical engineer be a fan of such "correct", conformist, standard fare early-Seventies, mainstream, mass appeal DINOSAUR ROCK? I would not expect anyone under sixty to like that dreck - and then, only sixty-somethings who had arrested their own brain development, by smoking lots of "weed" in college. And why are so many people in this region STUCK IN THE SEVENTIES? Considering that there was never an interruption in the production and consumption of that Pothead Loser kind of music, it can hardly be considered "Retro". A whole population is apparently just plain STUCK, in a really sucky decade.

Widespread Panic's sound is pleasant enough (apart from the cloying pronunciations). But the band members look like men in their mid-SIXTIES. Apparently, though, they're actually in their early fifties. I know a top Country band, who travel with three personal trainers. I assume this is standard in the industry, now. 'Widespread Panic' don't look like they'd be able to SPELL 'Personal Trainer'. Why do they look so OLD?

I have a young cousin (unemployable - worthless degrees - sent off to live in the Rockies), whose (alcoholic) father remained a big fan of Conformist Rock (all the stuff you were supposed to like, if you were a frat rat at Ole Miss, in 1970). The father died while my cousin was a kid, with the kid clinging to his father's music preferences. That's understandable: a valid excuse.

What was Troy Goode's excuse?

Positional asphyxia. It's hard to believe that trained officers would hog tie a person in this day and age with the amount of information out there about how dangerous that is. Just an example:

http://www.policeone.com/suspect-transport/articles/127340-Understanding-the-dynamics-of-sudden-in-custody-deaths/

Thanks for the groovy music review 1:04. No one cares.

Wow 1:04. Did you really just spend that much time talking about how your music is better than the music other people listen to? Grandpa? Is that you?

While postional asphyxia makes sense, it's hard to believe the hospital would have left him in such a position. Reports say he passed a couple of hours later at the hospital.

I was at the concert but did not witness this. My gut instinct when I read the initial story was that the guy OD'd on something, mainly because it happened outside of the venue and the fact that he all of a sudden started acting erratically. It is possible that mishandling of the victim while in custody played a part, but I'm having trouble believing that because he passed a couple of hours after being hogtied.

What a tragedy though. The guy had a wife and a young child and was obviously a smart, successful individual.

Is this near the location where the young white girl was torched to death and got no national attention. Just wondering?

1:0blah-blah had my attention at "screw widespread", then he had my interest at Joan Jett , etc, but apparently he's the REAL conformist nazi dickshit with all that Grendel crap. COME AND SEE THE VIOLENCE INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM!!!

1:04 it's southern rock with a sort of folksy style. Don't like it? Great! Please do us all a favor and keep your musical snobbery ( I can't stand the music snobs) away from all of us good people who are just trying to enjoy life.

I like Panic, but lord knows I can't handle the crowd at the concerts. Now, an Eric Clapton crowd is very nice.

Is it legal in Mississippi to video-tape the police?

@12:07
Yes it's legal. The government has big brother and we have little brother in our phones.

We can tape cops unless they ask us specifically to stop. That's why the guy stopped. Our cameras are merely soulless 3rd party witnesses that do not lie. The pro se lawyer types do it to be jackasses.
Others do it when they see some really odd stuff.
Might want to get used to it.

@12:07


"September 29, 2014

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

CONTACT: Jennifer Riley-Collins, ACLU of Mississippi, 601-354-3408; jriley-collins@aclu-ms.org

JACKSON, Miss – Highlighting recent events in Ferguson, Missouri and following the model set by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) in an unprecedented legal statement on citizens’ rights to record police actions, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Mississippi is contacting local law enforcement agencies throughout Mississippi, urging them to establish clear policies and training to ensure that officers conform to the Constitution they are sworn to protect. The ACLU of Mississippi hopes that by sharing information with Mississippi law enforcement officials about best practices the organization can assist police in heading off problems and protecting the rights of citizens as well as public safety.

“Taking photographs and videos of things that are plainly visible from public spaces is your constitutional right. That includes police and other government officials carrying out their duties,” said ACLU of Mississippi Legal Director, Charles Irvin. “Unfortunately, law enforcement officers often order people to stop taking photographs or video in public places, and sometimes harass, detain or even arrest people who use their cameras or cell phone recording devices in public. We urge Mississippi’s law enforcement agencies to join with us and to conduct embrace policies in line with DOJ guidance which protect this right.”

Given the conflicts over recording that continue to arise despite the enormous attention this issue is receiving across the country, the ACLU of Mississippi urges that now is the time for Mississippi police departments to review and modify their internal policies and training programs to ensure protection of the rights of citizen journalists.

The Department of Justice specifically recommends that police policies do the following:

Affirmatively set forth the First Amendment right to record police activity;
Describe the range of prohibited police responses to individuals observing or recording the police;
Clearly describe when an individual’s actions amount to interference with police duties;
Provide clear guidance on the necessity of supervisory review of any proposed action to be taken by officers against an individual who is recording police;
Describe the narrow circumstances under which it is permissible for officers to seize recordings and recording devices; and
Indicate that no higher burden be placed on individuals exercising their right to record police activity than that placed on members of the press."

Reads like another victim of prohibition.

Guy probably trusted someone to give himself something well known (lysergic acid diethylmide 25/1000's of published articles/& meta-nalyses) and ended up with some barely known research chemical.

Fruit of a science illerate government & population trying to forcibly regulate people's internal chemistry.

Prohibition works, baby. Don't you forget it.

12:07 - It's legal anywhere in the US until it becomes a legitimate interference with police work, which is quite rare.

There is a LOT more to this story that should be shared before an objective opinion can be reached. This should come back on the hospital. Just because the police put him in that position initially wouldn't make the police liable for the hospital staff leaving him that way to die in front of them IN THEIR HOSPITAL. The hospital immediately became liable if they did nothing in the presence of respiratory distress or arrest caused by his position at the time he arrived.

The Guardian also reported the wife (widow) as saying that she was threatened with arrest if she came to the hospital to see her husband.