Jackson Jambalaya

Average American mortality rate is 844 per 100,000 population.

MS prison population is 19,500 persons on average.

That equals an average mortality rate of 13.7 persons per month. 15 persons dying in one month is just about national average!

This is SIMPLE MATH. This is a non story and media sensationalism at its finest.

Why should we expect people who by and large make poor lifestyle decisions to have a below average mortality rate? Furthermore who cares?

http://www.mdoc.ms.gov/Admin-Finance/Pages/Daily-Inmate-Population.aspx

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm

It would be statistically impossible to have that many deaths in one month. The heat has not been as bad this year as last.

"While we believe that most of the reported deaths during the month of August..." Most? Dayum...how many were there?

5:51, thanks. I thought this sounded like sensationalism, but did not have information to back it up. If they reported how many people died in any hospital in town, people would be screaming for an investigation of the hospital.

Hopefully they will also publish how much we taxpayers have spent on everything for these criminals that were nothing but a drain on society.

556, does your reading comprejection stop in mid sentence? They know how many deaths there were -,they reported the number. They believe that most of those - the reported number - were caused by x, y, or z. But, they are wanting autopsy verification. Get it know? Or, do we need to break the sentence down into its various components for you?

@5:51

Applying the US mortality rate may be "simple math," but it's wrong You'd need to have more detailed information about the average age of the prison population.

For instance, the average mortality rate of ages 25-44 is closer to 150 per 100,000.

Why hasn't anybody called for the Commissioner's resignation? She is in over her head over there. That place is in total disarray.

So now folks think that Commissioner Hall is GOD.
Our society can't be that stupid. How can she control
death. Have we heard victims of who have been raped or
family members who children, mothers or fathers have been
brutally murdered?

@ 9:40 PM

Try harder:

The 15 inmates who have died this month range in age from 24 to 78.

https://www.wapt.com/article/15th-inmate-dies-this-month-in-mdoc-custody/22889181

The 12th inmate, Troy Pittman, 59, died at Promise Hospital in Vicksburg Monday morning. He was serving a 30-year-sentence at Central Mississippi Correctional Facility. 

(59, at a hospital at time of death)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.clarionledger.com/amp/1143342002

Tony Springer, the 13th inmate, died Monday evening at Singing River Hospital in Pascagoula. Springer, 75, was an inmate at the South Mississippi Correctional Institution in Leakesville. 

(75, past average male age of death statistically)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.clarionledger.com/amp/1143342002

Two other inmates at Parchman were found dead in their cells within hours of each in April. Michael Montrell Norwood, 29, and Milton Craig, 28, were found unresponsive in their single cells in separate buildings at Unit 29 on April 2 of "apparent suicides."

(Suicides, but I’m sure you think those are coverups? Ya know, “the man”)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.clarionledger.com/amp/1143342002

Aug. 2: Albert McGee, 57, South Mississippi Correctional Institution in Leakesville

Aug. 4: Charles R. McCullough, 66, State Penitentiary at Parchman

Aug. 5: Jack Glisson, 70, South Mississippi Correctional Institution 

Aug. 11: Ricky Martin, 58, Central Mississippi Correctional Facility

Aug. 19: James Myrick, 63, State Penitentiary

Aug 20: John Luttrell, 67, Central Mississippi Correctional Facility 

Aug. 27: Troy Pittman, 59, Central Mississippi Correctional Facility

Aug. 27: Tony Springer Sr., 75, South Mississippi Correctional Institution

Aug. 28: Curtis Hughes, 45, State Penitentiary

So there’s at least 8 of them past age 57, one 45 y.o. plus 2 “alleged” suicides. Not exactly the 25-44 year old window you referenced. Took about 5 minutes to look it up. Bring facts to the table if you want to discuss this with adults.

Commissioner Hall can't control death!
Has anyone heard from any victims who has
experienced rape or family members brutally
killed?

>>>Applying the US mortality rate may be "simple math," but it's wrong You'd need to have more detailed information about the average age of the prison population.<<<

The next step beyond "simple math" is understanding that one needs to make additional corrections as prison inmates aren't expected to be killed in significant numbers in automobile and motorcycle collisions. Arguably in a well run prison system homicides ought not to happen in significant numbers, nor should drug overdose deaths or poisonings.

http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/mississippi-cause-of-death-by-age-and-gender

Drugs are bad...mkay~mr Mackey

How rich! A serial killer, in prison, killing other criminals! Sleep well (with one eye open)

This isn't normal for MDOC hence the concern. It is spread over the system and that makes me feel a little better but then again in the back of my mind it makes you wonder about institutional control by knowing how the place is run.

Think of how much money we are saving, this looks like a good thing to me.

Lies, damn lies, and statistics. Bad people do bad things to others and themselves -- that's why prisons are chocked full of them. As they are in Mississippi. The new MDOC commish seems to be a making a good effort to take the reins from the absolutely incompetent and corrupt past leadership. But it's a shit sandwich and just about a no-win scenario for her (or any new commissioner for that matter).

I think she's done the right thing -- let outsiders look in, independently evaluate, and report what's going on. But don't believe for a second that the majority of these prisoners are "really good people who just need a little help getting straight...". They deserve humane treatment and a chance to rehab themselves but they are not, for the most part, "good people".

@11:24 PM

“The next step beyond "simple math" is understanding that one needs to make additional corrections as prison inmates aren't expected to be killed in significant numbers in automobile and motorcycle collisions. Arguably in a well run prison system homicides ought not to happen in significant numbers, nor should drug overdose deaths or poisonings.”

First of all we have already dispelled your nonsensical argument that the people dying are in a narrow younger age window. The earlier post definitely says that’s simply not true. You cherry picked the 35-44 year old window, which is great if you want to build a false narrative that that’s the type of person who is dying in custody. But factually (read the earlier post), it’s not even close to statistically true and disingenuous.

In the overall age category, using YOUR statistical resource, the top ten leading causes of death are: heart disease, Alzheimer’s, lung disease, stroke, lung cancers, hypertension, diabetes, breast cancer, kidney disease, flu/pneumonia.

http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/mississippi-cause-of-death-by-age-and-gender

I’m not sure if you have been around the incarcerated population. I have been for the last decade plus in a professional capacity. Additionally I have a formal education in sociology and statistics. I consider myself qualified to debate this. These are, by and large, not people who make good life decisions, and certainly not with long term health and wellness in mind. It’s not shocking that incarcerated persons would have a mortality rate in line with the average American. In all honesty I would expect it be much higher when factoring in the higher propensity of poor health decisions and narcotics abuse. It’s cute and telling that you think narcotics shouldn’t be in prison. I would agree, but I also don’t live on a unicorn farm.

It’s really hard to get very worked up about this. They must have done bad stuff to land in jail, and society on the outside was doing just fine without them, so ho hum if there are a few fewer to feed and house. And I’d imagine that, for them, death would be preferable to a miserable life in jail, anyway.

The genius in the opening post fails to realize that the prison population contains nobody under the age of 18 and a non-parallel number over the age of 70. Deaths of people in those two age groups alone are enough to blow his theory out of the water.

@ 2:57 PM

What’s your theory then genius? MDOC is maliciously cloak and dagger killing innocent inmates? Did Russia collude to get them incarcerated as well? Please expound with your statistical fact based analysis of what you believe is happening... chances are it hurt your feeeeelings so rather than bring anything constructive to the table you responded with nonsense. What is your honest fact based analysis? Until you present that you’re just wasting oxygen.

@2:57 PM

You’re presented with facts, offer none in return, but expect to be taken seriously.

I figured the pen would be the safest place most of these bad boys and girls ever had.

A prison sentence is not supposed to be a death sentence.

11:06, Actually, sometimes, it is

7:24, who is also 7:27, is off in the ditch twisted around his own axle. The opening post, which he penned, is nonsense. He now knows it. There is zero correlation between the anticipated or factual number of deaths among a prison population and those experienced in the general population of a state or nation.

He might as well give us his opinion of the comparison of drowning victims in the city sewer system of New York and the number found to have drowned in bath tubs in Queens.

Why was an inmate from Central Ms Correctional taken to fleabag Promise in Vicksburg when CMMC, UMC, St.Doms, Baptist, River Oaks (if he was squeezing out a baby) were 15 minutes away?

@4:34

Typical liberal nonsense: facts don’t matter, only your feelings matter.

Thanks for clarifying yourself.

There are 47 inmates on death row waiting to die.
Are we mad at the judges who sentenced them to die?

The attacks on the prison system is promoting and condoning criminal behavior!
Those who participate in these attacks should share the punishment that is issued to
those offenders.

Why don't those prison strikers support ridding the prison system of contraband and drugs?
They never talk about the deaths of other inmates that have been carried out by the
hands of career criminals that they support or the drugs trafficking into the prison
that most of them are part of!!

They only support the alleged injustice on the streets and behind the wall! All smoke to hide the
real agenda which is money making, killing and getting high!