Jackson Jambalaya

Give me anything free. Yes

Certainly everyone saw this coming. It’s free $$$$. Personally I don’t have a problem with bond issuance, only how it’s being spent. Then again, I live in a town a little north of Jackson.

At this point, all that you can do (if the referendum passes) is focus your reporting on attempting to hold JPS accountable with this money. Good luck. I will say this, a good Bond attorney is worth a lot of money. But I do think the fact that the market crowds out so many players does increase the price that bond attorneys can charge. I think it is a distorted Market.

Is this the total votes? Or simply from a precinct...

Well it is comforting to know that at least 466 people have their head screwed on straight. That's a lot more than I would have guessed.

The exact opposite of what I thought it would be. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the votes are being counted backwards. What a scam JPS is.

Big win for Jackson - big loss for Kingfish. So much for that empassioned editorial. Shocked it didn’t have more impact!

"Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They always run out of other people’s money." -Margaret Thatcher

What percentage of the vote cast is this?

I mean, there are 5,000 JPS employees...

August 7, 2018 at 9:26 PM wrote, "I mean, there are 5,000 JPS employees..."

Well, to be fair, 10 or 12 of them are taxpayers, too...

I told you that no one listens to Kenny Stokes and his crew on this guy's blog. Lumaba is as invincible as Trump.
Y'all better not cross them fellows. Even though neither probably has a clue about the job they were elected to do.

Quit. Your. Bitchin.

@ 9:24,
You mean it's a big win for the freeloaders in Jackson... certainly not for the educated or taxpayers in the northeast part of the city that pay all of the freeloaders bills. Your either clowning around or a complete uninformed moron. I hope it's the first.

Is that the total number of people who voted today???? That’s it????

Jackson is on the rise. We are leaving behind the naysayers and positive things are happening. This is proof positive.

The have-nots keep on taking from the haves.

Hand out for anything free...

Big win for Jackson - big loss for Kingfish.

Bump in traffic to his business says otherwise.

BOOM!

Jackson Renters: 2649
JXN Property Owners: 466

PLEASE show no votes vs % of property taxes pain in Chimneyville!!

I’m a 28 year old married professional currently renting in Ridgeland. Sometimes I think my wife and I could live in Fondren and give Jackson a chance. Then something like this comes along and reminds me that Jackson is in a terrible state and NOT getting better. Why would I opt to live in a high tax, high spending, no-accountability city?

Jackson property owners-Slap Leather!

10 years ago and $90 million, they said this would up attendance and academic scores. wrong. yes different administration. let's see if money helps. I bet NO. when will all these majority business oriented tax payers realize that they are wasting THEIR money. but now we will see. jps gets lots of money and no reward. community leaders will say it's the administration. they will fire, rehire,and ask for more money. when will you dumb a$$ quit voting yes? a better community comes from a home not more money in a school district. as we all know, jps spends more $ than most per student, and less time in the home. yes, it's not there place in the home. it IS the parents place to make sure their children to go school and do homework. drive around jackson next week. you'll see kids walking the streets and jpd pass by them with nothing done. the problem lies with YOU parents and jps that allow this. shame on!!!! you. not the money. jps gets plenty and waste it

WLBT 10 p.m. news just indicated the results as 3600+/- for, 500+/- against with 40 of 81 precincts reported. Mayor Curious George was live on the news set touting a victory and how important it was in bringing people to Jackson for the school system. Right....

FREE THE LAND!
By any means necessary......

I am a JPS employee and I did not vote for the bond.

Wait a minute y’all. An obviously falsified voting result. A headline with the phrase “Butt Whoopin’” in it. Open threads. Y’all. The Kingfish has done been hacked!! F•••ng Putin.

I thought it was pretty telling when the mayor got on TV and threatened tax increases if the bond issue didn't pass. Not a word about making the district do more (or less when it comes to administrative staff) with less. I'm sure in Rankin and Madison Counties their school boards will be laughing when the JPS fails again. But at least the buildings will look pretty --- until the vandalism begins of all the new stuff.

" I mean, there are 5,000 JPS employees..."

Anyone have any actual numbers on how many JPS employees pay property taxes that will be affected by the bond vote? That is a straight "request for info" question.

Just an opinion, but a vote should be tied to being affected by the results - if you do not pay property tax, it really doesn't matter whether it is an increase or not. To be sure, all residents are affected by their representation, but to allow those local voters who do not pay a local tax to vote on that tax seems unreasonable. No jurisdiction allows those not in the district to vote on representation on the grounds, in general, that they have no dog in the fight. Why shouldn't property tax voting be the same? In other words, holding an election to "tax someone else" seems a bit unnecessary; what would anyone expect the results to be on a "make someone else pay my bills" election?

Kingfish this is your chance to hold JPS accountable for every dime spent on this bond. Hold their feet to the fire. Some of us believe in what you are trying to do.

If the 3500 for, 500 against total is even close, it just put another nail in Mississippi's coffin. It isn't the result, it is the turnout. Why would any sensible business want to come here without giveaways that greatly favor them? Jackson, its schools, its crime, and its potholes are a lost cause. It is the capital city of a state that needs every effort its citizens can muster. We're in last place and trying hard to stay there. And Jackson voters just ignored their way into yet another debacle.

Wait till Jokeway unveils the millage increase in the upcoming city budget. Property values are already tanking.

Thanks for the tax (it really ain't) increase Phil. #SMH #shoulvesigneditlastyear

Well there's $65 million that just went down the pisser and in 10 years there will be nothing to show for it.

Kingfish turns out to be a guppie

Might quit trying to act like you have some type of sway....you don’t

That Zoo lady is in trouble because she spent Bond money on payroll. Let’s bet the people who spend this money on payroll never get in trouble....it would be racist if they did.

Well... if you don't vote you shouldn't get a voice on the issue. I'm pissed and I live in Jackson off Meadowbrook... I have dental property in Alta woods... as well as Clinton 9 units in Clinton and I see the taxes will increase due to bond issue in Clinton as well... my renters will see an increase in there rent come January... I hope the renters that voted for this stuff in South and west Jackson also see a large prick in rent due to there stupidity. What's worse is the better educated tax payers area of the city was a dismal turnout. I assume those premadonna figures were too busy at 30A or the condo in Oxford to check a box on a Tuesday morning. Well you get what you vote for.

Woo hoo! More free stuff without a tax increase. Win!

6:44. at least you know the one in Clinton is actually documented well and will go towards what they say it is for.

Some of you should do a 2016 census quick fact check before commenting.
The percentage of homeowners, high school graduates, and college+ graduates is higher for Jackson than for much of the State.
26% attended college where only 14% is the State average. The average income rose from the last census.
Right now, I'm wishing all of those who are anti-Jackson would take a DNA test.
One of the facts some of you should look up is how many Southerners show up not being so " lily white" as you imagine yourself to be.

JPS is administration heavy. Corporations pay their CEOs ridiculously excessive salaries and bonuses. I'm less upset about the former rather than the latter. And, I also know that public education and believing that a good education was important was what once made the US a leader in the world. There is much to do at the top as well. All of the top heavy criticisms and misuse of funds can apply to IHLs as well.
But, no one's complaining about millions in spending on construction or coach or administrative salaries not going to educate college students or to hire better faculty or to scholarships for brilliance rather than athleticism.
Our hypocrisy is getting pretty hard to hide.

When you eliminate the convicted felons in Jackson who can't vote, that 5000 number is pretty much a majority of eligible voters.

More sway than Melvin R.!!!

Voting results: Not surprised, but damn! 6:44, dental property?

I voted "Yes" to make Kingfish mad.

For you folks in NE Jackson, don't event think of annexing to Madison County. Own it!

The local luxury car dealers will be doing a booming business when the funds are released.

Now JPS will hire a consultant (perhaps a former/failed JPS admin) to make suggestions on where to best spend the money. I'm so glad that I no longer contribute to this mess...

What does a condo in Oxford have to do with this issue?

Shocking finals are in:

11,449/86% for - 1757/13% against.

Didn't know there was 1757 white folks still living in Jackson.

Who in their right minds are going to buy these bonds, and what expected ratings and yields are projected?

Well looks like Kingfish and Kennuf took a tough blow on this one. Never imagined that those two would be on the same side!

Lost in all this is the fact that 50,000 Jackson voters (ten times yesterday's turnout) showed up at a meaningless presidential election. But a bond referendum with direct costs and benefits for Jacksonians only drew 5,000. That is pitiful. Pitiful for both sides.

p.s.....meaningless from the standpoint that your vote did not matter in the 2016 election.

I read where Clinton taxes are NOT going up. The school district is dedicating the upcoming Continental property taxes to the improvement costs.

@7:13

"Some of you should do a 2016 census quick fact check before commenting."

Sorry, but the last census was in 2010, the next being in 2020.

I love these posts:
“I hope the renters that voted for this stuff in South and west Jackson also see a large prick in rent due to there stupidity”

Your taxes are exactly what they were this tine last year in Jackson. And ad valorum taxes are going up 5 mils. It your use is ASSESSED at 500k (which it is likely MUCH less), then you’re going up 250. A year.

Get a damn grip.

732, the difference in your attempt to compare CEO salaries to the administrators at JPS is very basic. The CEO salary is paid by a company whose (voluntary) owners, the stockholders that choose on their own accord to invest in the company either approve of the,salary based on the results produced, or choose to disagree by selling their investment. But the ones paying the tab for these overpaid and top heavy administrators don't have tgat option. We don't get to get out of our interest in JPS as they extort more and more taxes to waste on these salaries.

Nice try at comparing private businesses to government without recognizing the differences between voluntarily invesring, as well as paying for success and dismissing for failure.

These numbers aren't surprising. At my polling site I spoke with a group of ladies after we all voted and I could tell they were 2000% in favor of the bond. No critical thinking, just supporting it because the kids deserve better schools. I don't disagree, but JPS should be smarter and more transparent about these deals. But they know the population they are soliciting from doesn't care about details.

8:34
I could only assume the person is poking fun of the NE Jackson residents as it does seem they love to talk about there Oxford condos or beach houses rather than deal in reality. Go to river hills tennis club or the cou try club. You will hear them talk and they think they're so wonderful bc they have more money than most. I'm an LSU fan so I never set foot in Oxford unless the bayou Bengals are about to beat the rebels down.

Theca Jones appears to be stalking you KF.

How much did Othor Cain get paid? Anyone with a ballpark idea?

Ask Juanita.

I watched the WAPT report/video last night of the poll workers and election officials pulling-up in their vehicles in downtown Jackson at wherever it was that they were supposedly counting/totaling the votes from the day. Children, under age youth, were carrying and pulling the ballot bag boxes across the street.

I saw pictures of the Mayor, Lumumba, inside the "vote counting" room strolling about laughing and talking to the "election officials", they all appeared to be smiling and happy.

From what I could tell, the voters marked their paper ballots, scan machine styled ballots, and then DID NOT scan them through the voting machines to verify their vote was recorded, but simply deposited them into a slot on top of the blue ballot boxes. How did this process work? Who was responsible for tallying the voters votes yesterday? Did this take place at the voting precinct, or at this downtown room after the polls closed?

I will bet anybody whatever they want that our Secretary of State, Hosemann, will not say ONE WORD about any of this. After all, he now knows that they know where he lives, after they stole his truck from his driveway, and in the summer, lots of bodies and heads turn-up around Jackson...

I personally think that Jackson needs to address the crumbling infrastructure before what's left of the property owners flee. Look at the plummeting property values in Jackson. There are only a few pockets that hold their value, somewhat, and those are shrinking. We toyed with the idea of moving to the Sheffield area so that the kids could walk to school, but between the constant water and sewer issues, crime, awful roads, it's a no go. Taxes are too high already, for subpar services. I will eat my Seaside cap, UM season tickets, plus my JA and 30A stickers, if there are any measurable improvements for JPS students that result from this boondoggle. Full disclosure; I don't actually have season tickets, but Reunion pineapple didn't seem to imply the level of sacrifice I was going for.

Some of those homes on Sheffield have been sold more often than hotel rooms on Highway 80 in Jackson have been rented.

How many of the "yes" voters reside permanently in Cedarlawn? Asking for a friend.

9:14 AM - all votes matter. You socialist progressives still can't get over having an "electoral college," UNLESS OF COURSE YOUR CANDIDATE WINS!

I voted at Willie Morris library. Poll worker usually hands me an "I voted" sticker. This time she hands me a vote for Jay Hughes sticker.

9:52, it sounds to me that you are jealous of people who enjoy financial success. Sad.

KF,

Kudos on your coverage of this bond affair. The folks have spoken for now -- but how can the future JPS use of these bond funds be tracked and reported to the public?

Finally get to add some more JPS administration

I'm done. Goodbye.

$6.5 million, $65 million or $165 million...…..at the end of the day, JPS will still be a "F" rated school district.

They will eventually get around to making 40% a passing grade, so as to get more kids to pass. All these proud Dim-O-Krat JPS parents will be all smiles when the children walk across the stage to get their "Certificates of Attendance" and they go out into the world to begin their careers at McDonalds, KFC, Popeyes or Inmate of the Month.

Dim-O-Krats have been in complete control of Jackson & JPS for 30 plus years and it hasn't gotten any better. They've been through more Superintendents of Education than anywhere else in the state.

Yes sir, they love living in the Dim-O-Krat utopia, lining up for all those free organic meals their Dim-O-Krat leaders pass out, better known a "Sh*t" sandwich by the people able to think for them self.

KingFish - Keep an eye out for the "Consultant" who will be paid hundreds of thousands to advise and council.

Free stuff is the opiate of the progressives.

These results sucked, but were expected. For those that feel renters should not have a right to vote in these types of elections, I do not understand why? The rent paid by these people go towards the property taxes paid by the property owners. Am I missing something here? Sure a renter can up an leave after their lease expires, but the rent they paid does contribute towards those property taxes being paid.

Who do I need to know to cash in on this bond passing?

Did anyone else put their ballot in what looked like a soft-sided cooler? At Spann we voted in the back of the school (second time I've voted in the back and not the front library area). And I filled out the bubble scantron sheet. But instead of putting it in a computer I was told to put it in a soft-sided box. Procedure was different. I am not saying there was something illegal going on. But I would have liked to have seen my vote scanned.

Casey elementary was also placed in a soft sided box... it was odd.

10:21, 3:22, & 4:54.

The process used by the City yesterday for conducting the election was perfectly legal, and also very practical. And it is used in many jurisdictions on a regular basis, although this was only the second time that it has been used in Hinds County/Jackson. (The first time was the special election for supervisor in Districts 2 and 4 a few years ago.)

The process uses a central scanner rather than individual precinct scanners. The ballots are placed into a sealed ballot box (what some have referred to as looking like a soft sided cooler). The box is designed to allow ballots to be inserted, as you did, but is sealed for transport from the voting precinct to the central scanning location.

At the Hood Building (across the street from City Hall) the poll managers did pull up on the street and some young men took the ballot boxes from the vehicles inside to the scanning area. (This is similar to what happens at county elections at the courthouse, when the ballots and other materials are brought back to the courthouse following the close of the polling place.)

Inside, the ballots were removed from the bags - in clear and open view of the public present - and run through a high speed scanner. This system of voting is referred to as a "Central Scanner" process vs. individual precinct scanners where the data is downloaded into a computer system to total for the county. But in the individual precinct system, any outstanding ballots (affidavit, resolution, etc.) are eventually counted via this same central scanner.

The use of this system is actually more secure than the individual precinct scanners, and is much less expensive to the city.

But, I realize, nobody likes change except for a wet baby.

3:22 and 4:54, I’d be checking with SOS, making sure that was normal and making a stink, if not. If I were you.

Pete,
No offense... but, I trust your a$$ about as far as I can throw you. Thanks for your opinion and observation. You just don't have the credibility to assure anyone on this type of issue!!!

Reminds me of an old Jerry Jeff Walker song.

I saw one article on WLBT's web site that said "passage requires at least 60% favorable votes AND at least 10% of the registered voters in Jackson must vote in order for it to pass. Although it appears that it will get the necessary 60% favorable votes, it is not certain that 10% of the registered voters will go to the poll."

I have yet to see if that criteria was met.

Does anybody know how many registered voters there are in Jackson and what percent voted?

3:22 and 4:54, instead of taking 5:57's advice (checking with SOS), I would suggest if you want to check, to ask the Attorney General, since bond issue elections are not controlled by the MS Election Statutes.

Or, one could check the statute yourself: check section 37-59-11(c).

Or if you would like, look at the recent AG opinion issued to the Pearl School District (Opinion #2015-00460) which states that there is no requirement for using electronic voting machines for school board elections, as detailed in Section 23-15-501 of the election code.

@6:44 - From Your Post...

I know what a 'large prick' is, but please, what is dental property? Wait....the building in the southeast quadrant of the Northside/State Street intersection - right?

Mac Haik is celebrating this result. He sells those big, goofy Chryslers.

Anon at 6:10, I might be concerned about how far you could throw me if you were willing to put your name to your thoughts. Frankly I don't care how much you trust me - or the documented facts I have offered to support my comment. But then again, you probably don't trust the MS statutes or the AG's opinion either since you know more and have everybody's 'trust' behind your anonymous insight.

Yeah. Warren County (Vicksburg) recently had a school bond election. The voting was NOT in the usual polling places. Instead, voting was done at the two high schools. And the school board paid for it.

It was pretty much set up as a stacked deck. The vast majority of voters who figured out where to vote were the teachers, school workers, and parents of school children.

The folks who were opposed to it were not familiar with voting at a school, were not sure which school to go to, and mostly just didn't bother figuring it out.

Sitting over hear eating popcorn while wondering why in hell Pete Perry is such a shill for this waste of millions. Maybe it'll come to me. I'm anonymous but still have a right to wonder.

Meanwhile the reason this nonsense passed is because of the well organized underground rumbling that 'Them white people are going to close down our schools and your kids will be bused to Bolton and Canton if JPS doesn't get this money'. The word spread through the Underground Railroad and more especially the black church network. It worked.

@2:24 AM - I suspect that he meant to type "rental" property.

OK, I found this:

"Approximately 12.6 percent of voters turned out for the election. The final vote was 2,756 to 1,762, with 61 percent voting in favor."

So they met the 10% of registered voters criteria.

Shill? Then why did he send out an email to his friends that day asking them to go vote against it? Why did he go to the Hood building that night to watch the votes be counted so as to keep it honest? Sorry to confuse you with the facts.

8:05, damn you must be dumber than you appeared earlier, and you evidently have a tough time comprehending the written word.

I opined on the legality of "how" the election was conducted. I did so based on knowledge and education of the process, and supported my opinion with supporting facts.

The fact that I responded to a couple of folks that questioned the "process" and wondered about its legality speaks nothing to the question of the bond issue itself. But since it appears that in your anonymous state you can't seem to equate differences you consider me a 'shill'? Interesting disconnect.

Meanwhile the reason this nonsense passed is because of the well organized underground rumbling that 'Them white people are going to close down our schools and your kids will be bused to Bolton and Canton if JPS doesn't get this money'.

You are delusional. Seek help.

When they get ready to blow all this bond money, they might do well do consider this recently resolved lawsuit in Philadelphia. School system found guilty of discriminating against white people in awarding contracts. Imagine that!

http://www.uschronicle.com/philadelphia-schools-fined-2-3-million-blatant-anti-white-discrimination/

Delusional, 8:41? This is the precise tactic used over and over and over and particularly by Democrats, e.g. Greg Brand during political primary season for decades.

'They gonna keep you from voting.'
'They gonna close our schools.'
'They gonna give all the jobs to whites.'
'They gonna put you back on the plantation.'
'They gonna take away your benefits.'

But, of course you already knew this.

"Then why did he send out an email to his friends that day asking them to go vote against it? Why did he go to the Hood building that night to watch the votes be counted so as to keep it honest?"

Well, Kingfish....I don't reckon too many of us commoners had that sort of information,now, did we? I don't know what Perry's activities include and wouldn't track his emails or whereabouts if I did know. I'm not a friend who gets his emails nor did I follow his car to the Hood building. All most of us saw/see is him coming to the defense of and expounding on the process. To most thinking people, that might indicate support.

He was telling you what the law was and what is permissible under it. Apparently knowing the law means support.

Well.....maybe it's a weakness on my part and I'm sure I'm the only one, but when a self-annointed political expert jumps to (what appears to be) the defense of the outcome of something questionable, I think he's acknowledging support. Again, I'm probably the only one who thought his several (bloviating) posts indicated support for the winning team.

I realize Perry, who I don't know from Lucretia's pet goat, is smarter than the average bear and can educate us all. I just need to pay better attention when he 'opines'. My bad.

4:17, first - you should understand that there is a difference between being a "political" expert and knowledgeable (expert or not) of election law.

Conducting of elections is a whole different ball of wax from politics. Perry was opining on the law, not the subject of the election.

And even after having that explained to you - the difference between the comments made defending the fact that the 'process' was legal (in response to earlier questions about it, since it was not what some were used to) and the fact that there was nothing said in support of the bond issue itself - you continue to try to conflate the two.

Let me suggest that before you sit down at a keyboard again and show your ignorance, you take a minute or two to understand what has actually been said by others, rather than just what you want to interpret and assume to fit your narrative.

As to your not knowing Perry or being on his email list, I'm sure he's glad to learn that! Especially glad to know that you aren't following his car to the Hood building or anywhere else for that matter.

(BTW, as to his being a "self appointed expert" as you say, if I'm not mistaken he has been annointed as an expert in election laws by several different courts in this state over the past few years.)

Thanks, Pete. Did Salter write that shit? Six one-sentence paragraphs to say nothing more than extolling the virtues of Peter Principle Perry.

Nobody cares about the intricacies of election law in this instance. All that matters is that the people have been hornswaggled yet again and we're all the losers. Even the ever-irrelevant Pete.

Hey a$$hat, three folks (10:21, 3:22, 4:54) all seemed to care about 'intracacies- which was the reason for Perry's comments that evidently stocked your fires and charred your buttcheecks. From there you were the idiot who tried to convert support for process into support for the issue - and got called out for your inability to read, comprehend, or even think through basic comcepts.

Maybe you should consider quitting while you are behind - so far behind that every time you chime in with your idiocy (and obvious man-hate-crush on Perry) you dig the hole deeper.

Face it. You were wrong. You screwed up. Wasn't a major deal so get over it. Move on - start hating on Poff, or the sheriff, or whatever is relevant today. You obviously don't know cap about what you say anyway, so why keep trying to justify your existence on this dead horse?

OK - There will be no more posts allowed that can be interpreted as negative toward the honorable Peter Perry. He's a friend of and regular contributor to this blog and his knowledge, background (well most of it) and position are to be respected.

9:39 - You sound mighty angry. Get some breakfast down at street level on your next break.

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