Friday, June 15, 2018

Who Owns It?

Much has been made about the deteriorating area around the Jackson Zoo.  WLBT took a deeper dive into the mess and started naming the landowners:



MSNewsNow.com - Jackson, MS

30 comments:

Anonymous said...

One of C.J.'s better efforts.

Anonymous said...

Many golden opportunities for Jackson Fire Department training.

Anonymous said...

Where is the list? I can't find anything through the link. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Someone give me one reason why anyone opposes moving the zoo. Absolutely no benefit comes from leaving it where it is. I can assure you, if I were to go to the zoo, I would not stop at a service station or food court within 5 miles of it.

Anonymous said...

first, the chief code enforcement officer for the city of Jackson should be fired yesterday. Makush or whatever his name is, is not performing his job.

Bigger in my eyes though, until the city of Jackson has a legitimate comprehensive plan, or ordinances in place, and enforced, that lead to good and sustainable development, this is a mute point.

The ONLY entity at fault in this tragedy is the city of Jackson, and it "leadership" (historically correct word to use, but not actually properly descriptive for the past 20 to 30 years).

Just go to city hall and veiw the grounds / former gardens / the fountain, the items left dumped around the foundation of city hall......NO ONE CARES, or takes pride.

Anonymous said...

Here's a little info about the "Co-Op of New West Jackson," posted in 2015 by Jackson State University, Center for University-Based Development in Neighborhoods:

"First, the abandoned properties are being acquired by residents that will be put into a community land trust. Second, the properties are being rehabilitated by residents who possess the requisite skill sets: construction, carpentry, bricklaying, electrical wiring, and plumbing, with salvaged materials. Third, the rehabilitated properties are being transformed into facilities the community needs and that can generate wealth.

"Some uses for the properties include a culture center, bookstore, and a community owned bed and breakfast. Other ideas for creative uses also include turning houses into value-added productive facilities for enterprises spawned from the raw materials such as honey and goat milk harvested from the cooperative urban farm (currently in development) called the Grenada Street Folk Garden and Teaching Center . . . "

Frankly, it sounds to me like somebody's experiment of turning NW Jackson into an Africa-modeled utopia has fallen short of the mark. One more failure for the Nation of Jackson.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure most of these individuals and groups will get some of those
fancy "federal" dollars or money from baby Chowke to fix up these houses.....if they already haven't got the money
Could even be some Katrina evacuees still being listed as living in those houses and the owners getting their subsidy checks from the Feds

Anonymous said...

"Perception of crime."

Meet the New West Jackson, Same as the Old West Jackson said...

Check out this JJ post regarding the Zoo from April. It includes the following statement from Cooperative of New West Jackson member, Nia Umoja:


Sadly, we again are no match for organized white capital.

I do think we need to have a counter plan for what we need in place before the zoo moves that will bring renewed economic and social vibrancy to West Jackson for the direct benefit of West Jackson residents, like a state of the art fun park (Six Flags Over Jackson) or some irresistible experience that is unique to West Jackson that will bring everybody to our side of town as opposed to a hospital or cancer treatment center that we will end up with if we don't come together on what comes after the zoo.

We also need to take command of the narrative that is perpetuated on our place. Folks that don't live here do not have the right to character assassinate our home or position a narrative based on their own fears and misconceptions.

Let's spend our time, effort and other resources uniting around what comes next for our awesome side of town!

West is Best; they will wish they never left!

Nia Umoja



So they don't want "white capital", they shun medical facilities in favor of a Six Flags style park (HA HA!), but they won't even clean up the properties they own and control?

Yeah, looks like it's all Whitey's fault.

Messick said...

12:15,
That utopia still sounds like "work" and very few are inclined to partake in such an activity.

Anonymous said...

“First, the abandoned properties are being acquired by residents that will be put into a community land trust. Second, the properties are being rehabilitated by residents who possess the requisite skill sets: construction, carpentry, bricklaying, electrical wiring, and plumbing, with salvaged materials. Third, the rehabilitated properties are being transformed into facilities the community needs and that can generate wealth.

Some uses for the properties include a culture center, bookstore, and a community owned bed and breakfast. Other ideas for creative uses also include turning houses into value-added productive facilities for enterprises spawned from the raw materials such as honey and goat milk harvested from the cooperative urban farm (currently in development) called the Grenada Street Folk Garden and Teaching Center . . . "

Has anything like this ever worked anywhere, ever?

Anonymous said...

Does anybody know if Mynelle Gardens is still there and if so, what kind of shape it is in?

Theca Jones of the Roguish Gent Podcast said...

Well if some of you guys actually stopped in West Jackson sometimes on your way to do cocaine in the Bathroom at the Iron Horse, you would know it's mostly a ghost town.

Anonymous said...

Doesn't the State of Mississippi own a significant number of these abandoned properties? Why isn't Dinglebert being held accountable for cleaning and maintaining the State-owned parcels?

Anonymous said...

I feel sorry for the poor animals at the zoo that have to live in that hood

Anonymous said...

1:33, I've never done cocaine just like I've never been to Iron Horse. Used to go to the zoo but now my 4WD can't handle the Jackson pot/sink holes.

Anonymous said...

10:59, I can give you 100 million reasons not to move the zoo - not if it is coming from public funds (at any level). Also, I don't want a zoo in my back yard. Guess that makes 100,000,001 reasons.

Anonymous said...

You're not even funny Jones.

Anonymous said...

2:15, far be it from me to defend Dilbert, as in my opinion he is not defensible. BUT, that said....

The Secretary of State has no responsibility or ability to "clean up" or to "demolish" or to do anything to these properties. The only reason the state owns them is because the owner was unwilling or unable to pay the property taxes on the properties and nobody was willing to purchase them for the amount of the taxes. Statewide, the SOS has almost 10,000 such properties; within Jackson there are probably over 3000. Anybody that wants to purchase them can do so, for little money. The problem though is that with many of these old buildings there is the potential for asbestos which means that demolition requires serious asbestos abatement procedures. And that makes the cost of demolition more than the property would be worth if it were vacant.

Asbestos is also the reason that these buildings can't be used for fire fighting training any more. Thanks be to Jimmy Carter's EPA regulations and all the hype on asbestos created by Dickie Scruggs et.al. who want to file suit anywhere and everywhere the word might even be uttered.

Anonymous said...

Theca Jones, conservatives dont do cocaine, or any type of drugs, or drink alcohol.

Anonymous said...

Delbert in all likelihood will not seek re-election as MSSOS. I would like to see candidates for MSSOS offer fresh ideas on how that office might take a greater leadership role, through existing powers of the MSSOS as the Commissioner of public lands, or through new legislation, to do something with these parcels, and help revitalize the neighborhoods in which they are located. When the State of Mississippi owns 3,000 parcels of property in its seat of government that private buyers do not want and which cause adjacent properties to be devalued, this is a state issue.

Anonymous said...

Next!

Anonymous said...

Quote at 12:46 says it all; there is no fixing crazy + stupid...

Anonymous said...

5:09 pm Do you want our fire fighters to get Mesothelioma? Are you really that ignorant about asbestos?

As for the " bottom line"...

Both city and state are responsible because in other parts of the country, both branches of government have the power to condemn buildings and the equipment crews to raze buildings on abandoned property. Better yet, cities will also empower homeowner associations to enforce covenants or deal with abandoned property before the homes are beyond repair.


No property should be sold for taxes to anyone, unless the purchaser signs a contract that buildings on said property will be either be razed or completely remodeled in a specified, reasonable period and that the property will be cleaned of existing debris on the grounds and the building reasonably secured in a shorter period.

Other cities have plans and enforce them. For example, all structures in Fondren should have to stay within the same design period. That's why Madison boomed, Mary adopted some of the same ordinances as Roswell, Ga did.

The plans for Capitol St are preserving the historic facades or replacing them with similar facades and that is great. But, that should be extended to all parts of Jackson and give incentives to new owners of any buildings currently not compatible to change their facades.

In MS, we protect the property owner to the extreme. About all the city or state will do for such eye sore properties is , if the owner has no clout, require mowing.


Both the city and state have to be on board and MS can't be selective about who gets to do what Mary did.


Anonymous said...

Kingfish,
I just read on a local news site about an Alabama man traveling to all 50 states to mow yards for elderly, vets, single moms etc.. he's in Jackson area and had forest hill football players show up to help the needy and now yards in Jackson. I would love to see something on this.

Anonymous said...


11:32, has already been covered by all three of the TV stations. You'll find it if you bother to look but you already know that.

Anonymous said...

The cooperative of new west jackson is busy searching for vibranium to save the City and create utopia.

Lutie's Tool Garden.. said...

Where is that food court near the zoo, referenced earlier? Are you talking about that Bar B Que drum behind the service station on Ellis?

Anonymous said...

6:29p.....you are getting RED-HOT!

if somebody could locate the white paper study that mayor kane ditto commissioned a select group to prepare when he was mayor, it would answer all of these questions with a lot of inconvenient truth....the group was called "the capitol city commission"

Anonymous said...

Close the Zoo.
Close JPS.
Hire more cops.
Fix the streets.



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