JPD issued the following statement.
On Thursday, August 17, 2017, at approx. 11:48 PM, Jackson Police Officers responded to the area of Fortification St. near I-55 regarding a shooting. Upon officers’ arrival, it was learned that a white female, later identified as Chelsie Lynn Kirschten-23, had been shot while in the driver seat of a white Pontiac G6. She suffered a single gunshot wound to the upper back and was pronounced deceased on scene.
During the course of the investigation, it was learned that the victim and a front seat passenger were stationary at the intersection of Fortification St. near State St. waiting for the traffic signal to change, when an unidentified black male subject approached the vehicle from the driver side armed with a silver handgun. The suspect, wearing dark colored clothing, fired a single gunshot through the front driver side window of the vehicle striking the victim and he fled on foot. The vehicle continued to travel eastbound on Fortification St. and came to a final rest near the interstate. The motive for the shooting has not been determined at this time. This is the 37th homicide investigation for 2017.
Anyone with any information regarding this incident is urged to contact the Jackson Police Department at 601-960-1234 or 601-355-TIPS (8477).
Kingfish note: The victim's Facebook page states she works at Twin Peaks. JJ has also learned the passenger was a woman.
The victim. Source: Facebook. |
66 comments:
Drugs? Unless she lived around there why would she be on fortification at midnight?
Not sure what her occupation has to do with her death? However, this senseless act cannot go unnoticed by the current administration, unless this is Antar's definition of a "Radical City". Lawlessness prevails.
sounds like a planned hit.
Could've been going to Fenians. Could've been visiting a friend in Belhaven.
Drugs, nightlife, hospital, visiting a friend? Could've been any one of several reasons.
Or leaving George Street
The MO makes it sound pretty targeted. However, I have certainly been at that intersection around midnight and I don't do drugs or hang out in West Jackson. Off the top of my head, I have been leaving the hospital, leaving Fenian's, & running to the pharmacy for necessary meds.
It don't matter what she was doing or why no one deserves to be killed no matter what the situation was.
I agree that her occupation is completely irrelevant to this story.
Sources told JJ they had just left whatever George Street is now called. Makes sense. Drive down Congress and take right on Fortification.
Pretty clearly this was NOT a "drug deal."
23 year old people ARE allowed to be out at 11:45 pm. The car was waiting for the light to change and the driver was ASSASSINATED. At this point it appears the ONLY motive is because she was "driving while white" in the city of Jackson.
Ask yourself the following: If an identified WHITE male had laid in wait, hiding in the shadows, until a car with a young, attractive, BLACK FEMALE had pulled up to a traffic light, then he crept up and shot her dead like the Son of Sam, what would be the response in this city?
Would there be marches, protests, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Maxine Waters, screams for Trump to be impeached? How quickly would the city statutes be pulled down? Would the name of the town have to be changed? Would our city be the next to turn into Ferguson, MO?
Then ask yourself how long it's going to take to catch this criminal, and what will happen to him when he gets arrested (IF he gets arrested at all). How lengthy is his criminal "rap sheet" going to be? How many times will the city of Jackson and the State of MS let him out of jail? How quickly will the ACLU and others rush to his defense and claim he didn't know what he was doing, or his IQ was too low, or was "temporarily insane" because of the state flag??
Was this racially motivated? Was this a hate crime?
Gang initiation. Go kill whitey
This was definitely not a planned hit. There's no way anyone could have known she would be stopped at that stoplight at that time. This black man just wanted to kill a white person. It's required for several of the social clubs in Jackson.
Possibly one of the numerous mentally ill or homeless individuals that constantly roams the Fondren-Belhaven State Street corridor. They like to hang out around the gas station across the street from Baptist or around Walgreens. Or just one more Jackson resident with a hatred of whitey and a long rap sheet.
Generally speaking, very few shootings are random. Nearly all of them are targeted. This likely wasn't random.
It's now called Ole Tavern. Thursday night is ladies night, and it is a very busy night, especially now that school is back in. I drove by the scene as the very first officer was arriving. I saw a hole in the driver's window and thought at the time that it could be from a bullet. The car was haphazardly half way up on the curb. I uturned in the Cazuela lot and went back by. They were sitting the passenger from the Pontiac in the back of a patrol car (not in handcuffs). She was also young, cute, and dressed to go out. I knew something serious was going on when they blocked fortification and the crime scene unit showed up.
Has the Mayor made a statement?
@ August 15, 2017 @ 8:45, Bless your little racist, bigoted heart! WTH does Al Sharpton or anyone you've named have to do with this young lady being gunned down while waiting at a light? NOTHING. You've basically shown what a bigot you are by thinking you've made some point by bringing these individuals up! WTH does a statue commemorating a treasonous general and many other traitors to this nation's UNITY have to do with this lady being murdered? NOTHING. WTH does the FACT that Trum being a totally incompetent, mentally ill fool selected to run the White House into the ground, have to do with this young lady's death? NOTHING! I suggest you focus on being a part of the SOLUTION, but judging from your post, you're only interested in being a part of the PROBLEM by spewing right wing, FALSE talking points and blurbs. There WILL NOT be a black or white heaven or hell. Get your minds right! We are all in this together, whether you like it or not! The thug, vermin who killed this young lady is akin to all of the vermin in any city, and their race doesn't matter! Their vermin!
No, and why should he? We've had other homicides take place since he became Mayor and they didn't require a statement from him. Is there a reason why this one does?
If he is compelled to issue a statement on Charlottesville then he should consider issuing a statement on this, although he should wait until more facts are known such as confirmation there wasn't other criminal activity involved that resulted in the murder. If it was random and the victim was in Jackson for legal entertainment purposes and was randomly targeted, whether for car jacking or simply to be murdered, then yeah, he needs to make a statement, a strong statement supporting law enforcement and the elimination of this kind of crime.
There are so many homeless and vagrants that hang out in that area. Yesterday morning on Fortification near Pizza Shack there was what appeared to be a homeless woman standing in the middle of the road yelling at another homeless man who was on the sidewalk. The woman in the road proceeded to walk down the double yellow lines of Fortification like it wasn't a busy street and she owned it. I was a little nervous stopping at the State Street light as she appeared to be angry, mentally ill, or both.
Yes, there is a reason.
It's being suggested that it was a random event.
All I can think about is how this poor girl milked it as far as the interstate while gushing blood all over her little Pontiac and rapidly dying. I just don't understand people sometimes. Good God.
9:48 -- I"m not 8:45, but It's called a "double standard" and probably has a lot to do with why Trump got elected whether you want to acknowledge it or not. Trump was not my first choice for the Republican nominee, but your side kept funneling us further and further into that selection.
You're blind and naive if you don't think racism exist today in reverse, just as it did in 1950. If it didn't you wouldn't have the outcomes your are having..........when you tell a specific group for decades how all the woes of society generationally are their fault, at some point they begin to push back. It's a natural anthropological reaction to fight for survival. You just don't like how it is spiraling sadly, out of control now, because the pendulum swung way to far to the left, and saner minds did not work to find the balance in the middle, on both the right and left. The left was taken over by idealogical, identity politics party members, and for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction (Newton's 3rd law) .
Also, the old tried and true, racist, bigot, name calling just doesn't matter anymore because people like you have dumbed it down to nothing, sadly, and you just don't get it. Your message is dead, and sadly all the memories of all those who really fought against racists, bigots, etc., has been watered down by your victimology message. Those people deserved better.
This girl died, it is terribly sad, her parents are grieving as is her entire family, the girl in the car with her, will be traumatized for the remainder of her life ......a BLACK man did it.......it is not racist to point this out, and also to point out that in our city now, and in our nation, if the reverse were true, we'd be dealing with the national spotlight. Those are the facts, because we have seen it play out over and over, with violent reactions from the left (Ferguson, et. al.).
Our press is lost -- only blogs like this lay out "facts" (sometimes by the blog owner and other times by those with knowledge who post) -- otherwise, we'd just be looking at everyone who is a male in the community right now, if we depended on the press, and people like you who are so adverse to skin color being mentioned or blame being placed appropriately, that crime rises.
And the 40 year one-sided race war continues....
It's good to see the President's supporters come out of hiding...
Just another day in Crackson. Everyone is a potential target. Extra points if it's whitey, I guess. Who the hell knows anymore. If you don't live there, don't get caught in that area after dark---black OR white.. The "safe places" are no longer safe anymore.
This has nothing to do with neo-nazi's, Antar, #45, etc. This is a longtime problem in Jackson that's simply getting worse. People always think, "it won't happen to me" but it very well could. You're talking about a place that's a nationally known criminal-gang hideout/safe spot. Strength in numbers and the judicial system has long since been captured.
Thousands of people drive in Jackson after dark, every night, in all areas, and nothing happens. Stop victim-blaming. You're far more likely to die by other means.
That JATRAN bus stop shelter at the corner of Fortification and State is a hangout for all sorts of bums, transients, panhandlers, and just plain crazy folks - loitering, littering, sleeping on the bench, peeing in cups. It's disturbing and disgusting. I've called JPD and JATRAN on several occasions, but there's been no real effort to police that place by either entity. It's become a public nuisance, frankly.
Her brother-in-law is a Madison Police Officer so hopefully JPD won't screw up this investigation knowing another agency is watching them.
I guess it's now "racist" to ask whether the situation would be the same if the races of the individuals involved were different?
(see rant above by the "no black and white heaven" kook).
If so, then I suppose our heros John Grisham, Samuel L. Jackson, Matthew McConaghy, Sandra Bullock, et. al. are GUILTY, since that's the basic argument of the protaganist in the story, a story, btw, taken directly from a MS Supreme Court case (though both perpetrators and victim were white).
11:46, yes you are more likely to die by other means but you are also much more likely to die if you are in the city limits of Jackson rather than any city elsewhere in the area.
If a person can read they know the crime stats of Jackson. Even the fuzzy math of the police dept. cannot hide that. It also does nothing to change who is committing the crimes and how many crimes they have to commit before some judge will put them in prison.
Forget the mayor. Has the District Attorney made a statement?
12:32, perhaps more likely to die within the narowing factor of becoming a crime victim, but to say that a person is more likely to die by any means, as you seem to say, is a bit of a stretch.
When is a crime not a "hate crime"?? I've never heard of a "love crime".
aren't there cameras at the intersection of Fortification and State streets?
Why would she be shot in the back? I can imagine that is a very small target from the driver's side if he were approaching from the side.
3:06, I suspect she saw the guy and was turning away, exposing the left side of her back.
@3:06 possibly because she saw the shooter approaching the window and instinctively tried to turn and duck.
Individuals who have ambushed people in the driver's seat have come from the blind spot, slightly behind the driver. If she was short in stature, her seat was likely forward, exposing her back to the angle of shot
Jackson is LOST.
Brings to mind in "High Plains Drifter" when they painted over the sign at the entrance to the town of Lago with "Hell".
Thoughts and prayers for the young lady's family.
Random shootings are extremely rare, something does not sound right on this.
It's very possible that the shooter was going to rob or carjack the 2 females at the light. If that's the case, the gun going off was probably not intentional. There ia nothing to gain financially from just shooting someone and running off. I hope they find the shooter and figure out a way to prosecute that person in either Madison or Ridgeland...
10:49 Very well said!!!! You nailed it!!!!!!
Did we ever receive a statement from the mayor? Saw him on the wapt news last night and this morning but they didn't mention this crime in the coverage of him.
Another Son of Sam?
I pray that Jackson calls in MS Bureau of Investigation (MBI) to lead this investigation!!!!!! This would do two things, A) It would give them someone else to blame and B) is a moot issue because MBI will catch this guy!!!
What did she do? She had to be doing something wrong. Let's not jump to conclusions until we know all of the facts. I'm on that street all of the time at that time of night and nothing ever happens to me. She had to provoke this somehow.
Somebody above says he 'came up on the scene' as the first officer arrived. Yet other reports say the victim's car made it all the way to interstate 55, some five or six blocks to the east. I doubt she was able to drive; however, if she was, why would the passenger not mandate that she drive to Baptist Hospital. And how could the 'scene man' arrive at the scene of the shooting and see the bullet hole in the window of the car when the car was five to six blocks east of the scene?
This story is becoming as convoluted as the Kroger shooting with the six year old. And it will get no more attention from The Mayor than the Motel 6 murder of the Bass Tournament Participant got from the other Mayor Lumumba. The tournament went ahead as scheduled without one damned word from the mayor or his police chief.
I did not realize homeless, mentally ill carried large silver handguns. I hope the 'person in the passenger seat' has an attorney before JPD detectives get to far along with their 'questioning'.
She was shot at N State Street and Fortification. Shooter is on left. She is probably thinking just get out of there. Total panic. Then she'd expires while driving down Fortification. You r expecting a dying person suffering from trauma to think rationally.
North Tavern is ladies night and is popular with that age group. Come down Congress, take right on Fortification. This is not hard.
thank you for removing that moronic and insensitive post about this not being the end of the world in re: to Millsaps student who was raped, robbed, and terrorized in early 1990's.
Reason those gates and that fence surrounding the Millsaps bubble went up.
Yes, double exists here. You are dishonest if you even try and argue it isn't. Same with crime disparity of color of perps (and victims btw).
The mayor? he's busy addin to his cred by hangin with Luda.
Re: her job- she was an extremely attractive young lady from pics shared by news; she worked at a Breastaurant on I-55 in Jackson; an overzealous customer got the wrong impression, was spurned, and acted? who knows.
The key to solving this murder is the other person in the car. That person has to be 100% truthful with the police. Where were you at, where were you going and what were you doing there.
Heard the victim's brother on tv tonight where he said she was turning her life around. That always raises red flags for me.The autopsy will determine if she had anything in her.
11:31 - To continue with your visions, the perp with the silver handgun was in the car the whole time, there was a violent argument over drugs, they stopped at the light, words were exchanged, he got out, he pulled his gun, racked it and shot her. Then he ran off. At the end of the day, it's still murder.
@3:01, I had an inkling there was more to this than meets the eye. I feel terrible for the family. With her brother saying that she was trying to turn her life around that's a huge issue. Drugs have ruined far too many people's lives and it's hard for addicts to ever overcome their addictions.
Hopefully, the passenger will tell all and the killer will be captured. But, there is one problem. It was a black male who shot a white female in Hinds county over drugs. RSS will NEVER allow him to be prosecuted to the fullest extent. A majority black jury will never allow it either in Hinds county. This smells to High Heaven.
I am sure he will be well coached by the current D.A. if brought to trial.
He wants no black man in jail if he can help it.
Drugs, dangerous streets, and deadly weapons. A bad combination that will get you killed no matter what color you happen to be be.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Heard the victim's brother on tv tonight where he said she was turning her life around. That always raises red flags for me.The autopsy will determine if she had anything in her.
August 19, 2017 at 11:31 PM
TOTALLY agree! When I heard him state this, I said hmmm. Alright, so there definitely could be MORE to this! Folks, no one deserves to be shot down like this, but there is MORE to this! This is NOT as random as it appears. I agree with an earlier post. That passenger needs to be raked over the coals for info, something about this has to break. People be careful of the life you live! NONE of us are perfect, and I pray for this young lady and her family, but these streets ain't no joke! They never have been! I just feel so bad for the family! 😭
You last few posters really take the cake with your idle, pious speculation about drugs and whatnot, and all based on a passing comment by the victim's brother. She was going back to college, for God's sake - think that might be what he meant about turning one's life around? And here you all are besmirching the memory of the victim and questioning the veracity of the terrified witness, and based on nothing more than your fevered imaginations.
Let the police do their work, why don't you? Jesus Christ!
Speaking of idle piety, thank you, Jesus, for signing your name on the above post. While you lambast somebody for speculating that drugs might be involved, you speculate that returning to school might be involved.
Drove through this intersection a few days ago. Traffic cams on each of the 4 street posts where the traffic lights are hung. Hopefully they were operational...
@ August 21, 2017 at 1:17 PM
Sir, or Madame, one doesn't merely start college just to get their life back on track. When a statement like that is made, things are occurring that have one's life OFF track! We're all human, but we're not naive. This is a big problem within society, we don't like the truth. The truth must be palatable, non-offending and soft, even easy. Unfortunately, USUALLY, the truth is anything BUT... Please don't chastise us for making a legitimate point that the victim's brother brought up. This is not heresay, her brother should know. Nonetheless however, I just came back here to correct you and for the record, I'm far from pious. I'm just a realist.
Wow. You guys are lost. White kids come to Jackson ALL THE TIME TO COMMIT CRIMES. This one ended tragically, but it's kinda no surprise. It's all fun and games to go slumming, until someone ends up dead.
The Jackson Police could stop other police departments from chasing people into Jackson if they would only set up roadblocks when a chase is starting, but they would have to get off the cell phone and maybe out of the car then stop the car moving to the "Hole in the Wall hideout for criminals" Go to Jackson and you will get away from prosecution every time. Keep out of Jackson at all costs!! carry a gun, don't stop at traffic lights - if someone approaches your vehicle while at a red light -turn right on red if your not the second vehicle. what is a 13 year old doing out at midnight anyway? the parents should be held accountable if they know who they are.
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