Jackson Jambalaya

Getting the road ready for those Costco trucks?

Quick Sam Hall get a reporter on this. I know you're reading this.

10:58 Dont stir them up again. Pretty soon we will be hearing "where are my kids gonna ride their bikes now?" BS again.

BTW who lets their kids ride their bike on HC when the multiuse trail is right there?

11:25 "...who lets their kids ride their bike on HC when the multiuse trail is right there?"

The same idiots who ride on the Natchex Trace... even though there's a riding trail 20' right inside the wood-line.

HC is a great ride, from county line all the way to 463. I will miss it once Costco and traffic come along.

I would think riding a bike through a round-a-bout that gets thousands (use whoevers traffic count figures you please) of drivers that don't know how to use a round-a-bout each day would qualify as an extreme sport.

11:25 I see the Mayor of Ridgeland holding up traffic on the Trace with two buddies every morning. While I am walking on his multi-million $ bike trail.

3:22, are roundabouts that difficult for people to grasp? Even as a cyclist I have no issues getting through, and I always assume the other drivers don't see me. And the ridgeland circle is really not very busy.

But I wasn't educated in the south, so there's that...

Well, "PittPanther" at 3:46, whoever you are, thanks for the insult to the majority of us on this site who WERE educated in the South, and navigate a roundabout just fine. What an arrogant ass...

While I'm here, I'll ditto 11:25 about not stirring up the bored housewives again.

@3:46. The problem is that the roundabout is too small. One should not be able to drive straight through. I blame Th stupid engineers, or the city that didn't dive them enough space to plant it.

So please don't insult the stupid people that don't know how to drive a roundabout. Because the mistake in Ridgeland is a laughable error in design and even the smartest person has to scratch their head after looking at it.

That's one helluva confusing map I don't care how good you are at map reading.

7:27, DO NOT, under any circumstances, encourage Pitt.

If one is headed west on Old Agency, approaching the roundabout, intending to go south on Highland Colony, it's very damned confusing as to which lane has the right of way. If you are on the inside lane intending to head south or if you are in the outside lane, heading south, both have the right of way. I don't give a shit what Gene McGee's spandex shorts say.

Pitt Panther can't pour piss out of a Pittsburgh boot, so there's that.

Dick Hall has multiple times taken credik for this roundaboot. If it were in Madison, Mary would have kicked his ass for this design. And he would have liked it.

There is no way in hell to interpret the map that appears above. Period!

7:27 - the roundabout is just fine as it is designed. If you had any experience you could realize that they come in all sizes and arrangements, each one designed based on the traffic count for the situation. Folks have been bitching on this site - and any other that they can find - about the HC roundabout and the one at the airport just because they like to bitch about anything new.

And, I was educated in the south - Mississippi in fact - and don't feel insulted by the comment above because it was in reaction to the many stupid comments made against the traffic device.

I am an uneducated redneck from the south. If one can not understand how to drive a roundabout, one needs not drive on a 4 lane highway either.

The roundabout is about the easiest and most functional intersection to encounter. It handles high traffic flow and also doesn't unnecessarily stop the single vehicle (like the Jackson traffic signals).

For the volume the HC roundabout should have a larger circumference. And no 8:31, the HC is insufficient as designed.

Two vehicles,headed west on Old Agency, side by side, enter the roundabout at the same time. The one on the inside lane intends to continue south on Highland Colony. The one on the outside lane intends to continue in the circle and head back east. Well, the one on the inside lane has the right of way and causes a crash when he attempts to head south on HC. And the cop that shows up says, "I really don't know how to write this up."

And the man who grew up in a Pennsylvania coal mine is riding by on his English Racer scratching his cod-sack.

It's pretty simple, NO LEFT TURN FROM THE RIGHT HAND LANE. If you are heading west on Jackson St and intend on going South on HC or making a full revolution of the roundabout you should be in the left lane. It is amazing the number of people who insist on heading south on HC from the right lane. Just read the signs and arrows.

http://www.springfield-or.gov/Pubworks/EngineeringTransportation/documents/PDRoundaboutHandout.pdf

the roundabout is efficient and sufficient as is.

8:25,

in your scenario, the vehicle attempting to "continue south" does not have the right of way to continue south out of the inside lane without yielding to a vehicle traveling in the outside lane.

8:25am, back when i was taught the rules of the road (yes, in PA), I was told that No one has the right of way. So in your scenario, the driver on the inside lane shouldn't be making a blind right turn, crossing another lane of traffic, without checking for what's around him. He deserves the ticket. In reality, who knows what Goober the ridgeland cop will do. Depends on what he had for breakfast, and how nice his girlfriend was last night.

And yes, I will ride by on my Italian road bike, shaking my head at the idiocy.

PP thinks he's so superior, now insulting law enforcement. What's wrong, did she used to be your girlfriend? Happy Italian biking!

It's amazing the goobers on here who either have never been in this roundabout or have not read the posted signs.

This was posted above: "It's pretty simple, NO LEFT TURN FROM THE RIGHT HAND LANE. If you are heading west on Jackson St and intend on going South on HC or making a full revolution of the roundabout you should be in the left lane."

That's not true at all. What's amazing is the people that will tell others to read the signs while their notion of 'right of way' is entirely wrong.

If you are headed west on Jackson and enter the roundabout intending to head south on HC, and you stay in the LEFT lane, you are going to impact a car in the right lane if you cross in front of them and head south from the left (inside) lane. There is no road in the United States where the left lane has right of way to turn across traffic in the right lane in order to turn right.

O.M.G. - The topic is Old Agency repairs not an editorial regarding traffic control measures.

10:04 is correct, as you geniuses will discover if you ever get around to looking at the signs - (they are metal rectangles on posts with arrows and words on them, I guess they've been puzzling y'all throughout your lives) - posted on each approach to the roundabout.

If you enter from the right lane, you have two choices, relative to your road of approach: turn right or go straight.

If you want to turn left, you are required to enter from the left lane.

11:25 and 4:26 You obviously don't have a clue about the opposition to Costco.

1:29; That may be true; however, the discussion involves a westbound vehicle entering the roundabout with the intention of heading south on Highland Colony. Your post, while cute, doesn't get anywhere close to addressing the subject being discussed. Stick this rectangular sign up your arse.

6:42 - westbound vehicle turning south must stay in left lane, because it's turning left. Like your left hand. (Pause.) No, your *other* left hand.

I may as well stick the sign somewhere, because it's wasted on you. How do you even have a driver's license? None of us is safe, apparently.

If you guys want to see an effective roundabout, check out Lee Cirlce in NOLA. If that's too far, trip on down to Gulfport and look at the one on Airport Road.

I don't know why the one in Ridgeland is too small. Money, I suppose. But to say it works is a farce...

8:23 wins the ignorance award for this post:

"...westbound vehicle turning south must stay in left lane, because it's turning left."

Tell that to the cop who shows up after you headed south out of the left lane and caused a wreck.

Once that vehicle is in the roundabout and is exiting South, he is 'turning' RIGHT, not left.

Please avoid Costco and buy your 90 roll package of TP at Wally-Sam's in Maryville. We really can't afford people like you driving Volvos through this area.

It's not illegal to turn left.... you can keep on turning left until you run out of fuel

Thanks to all of you arguing here, over a traffic circle. I occasionally need reminders as to why we moved to the Pacific Northwest. The inane and vicious bickering in this thread is an excellent example of the mindset that drove us away.

The "DDI" or "Diverging Diamond Interchange"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxvSIdt2KVA

Mary's Multi-Directional-Deltoid-Diamond at the Madison interchange is said to be the only one of its kind in the state. They really do need to get Dickey Hall to repaint the traffic-lane markers though. It's been six years and it's tough to know which lane you're in with the faded paint. The pansies are real nice too.