The 2018 U.S. News & Report rankings of U.S. law schools were leaked online yesterday. Ole Miss came in at #101. Mississippi College did not appear on the list. Read 'em and weep.
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Trollfest '07 was such a success that Jackson Jambalaya will once again host Trollfest '09. Catch this great event which will leave NE Jackson & Fondren in flames. Othor Cain and his band, The Black Power Structure headline the night while Sonjay Poontang returns for an encore performance. Former Frank Melton bodyguard Marcus Wright makes his premier appearance at Trollfest singing "I'm a Sweet Transvestite" from "The Rocky Horror Picture Show." Kamikaze will sing his new hit, “How I sold out to da Man.” Robbie Bell again performs: “Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be Bells” and “Any friend of Ed Peters is a friend of mine”. After the show, Ms. Bell will autograph copies of her mug shot photos. In a salute to “Dancing with the Stars”, Ms. Bell and Hinds County District Attorney Robert Smith will dance the Wango Tango.
Wrestling returns, except this time it will be a Battle Royal with Othor Cain, Ben Allen, Kim Wade, Haley Fisackerly, Alan Lange, and “Big Cat” Donna Ladd all in the ring at the same time. The Battle Royal will be in a steel cage, no time limit, no referee, and the losers must leave town. Marshand Crisler will be the honorary referee (as it gives him a title without actually having to do anything).
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Donna Ladd of The Jackson Free Press will give several classes on learning how to write. Smearing, writing without factchecking, and reporting only one side of a story will be covered. A donation to pay their taxes will be accepted and she will be signing copies of their former federal tax liens. Ms. Ladd will give a dramatic reading of her two award-winning essays (They received The Jackson Free Press "Best Of" awards.) "Why everything is always about me" and "Why I cover murders better than anyone else in Jackson".
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Wrestling returns, except this time it will be a Battle Royal with Othor Cain, Ben Allen, Kim Wade, Haley Fisackerly, Alan Lange, and “Big Cat” Donna Ladd all in the ring at the same time. The Battle Royal will be in a steel cage, no time limit, no referee, and the losers must leave town. Marshand Crisler will be the honorary referee (as it gives him a title without actually having to do anything).
Meet KIM Waaaaaade at the Entergy Tent. For five pesos, Kim will sell you a chance to win a deed to a crack house on Ridgeway Street stuffed in the Howard Industries pinata. Don't worry if the pinata is beaten to shreds, as Mr. Wade has Jose, Emmanuel, and Carlos, all illegal immigrants, available as replacements for the it. Upon leaving the Entergy tent, fig leaves will be available in case Entergy literally takes everything you have as part of its Trollfest ticket price adjustment charge.
Donna Ladd of The Jackson Free Press will give several classes on learning how to write. Smearing, writing without factchecking, and reporting only one side of a story will be covered. A donation to pay their taxes will be accepted and she will be signing copies of their former federal tax liens. Ms. Ladd will give a dramatic reading of her two award-winning essays (They received The Jackson Free Press "Best Of" awards.) "Why everything is always about me" and "Why I cover murders better than anyone else in Jackson".
In the spirit of helping those who are less fortunate, Trollfest '09 adopts a cause for which a portion of the proceeds and donations will be donated: Keeping Frank Melton in his home. The “Keep Frank Melton From Being Homeless” booth will sell chances for five dollars to pin the tail on the jackass. John Reeves has graciously volunteered to be the jackass for this honorable excursion into saving Frank's ass. What's an ass between two friends after all? If Mr. Reeves is unable to um, perform, Speaker Billy McCoy has also volunteered as when the word “jackass” was mentioned he immediately ran as fast as he could to sign up.
In order to help clean up the legal profession, Adam Kilgore of the Mississippi Bar will be giving away free, round-trip plane tickets to the North Pole where they keep their bar complaint forms (which are NOT available online). If you don't want to go to the North Pole, you can enjoy Brant Brantley's (of the Mississippi Commission on Judicial Performance) free guided tours of the quicksand field over by High Street where all complaints against judges disappear. If for some reason you are unable to control yourself, never fear; Judge Houston Patton will operate his jail where no lawyers are needed or allowed as you just sit there for minutes... hours.... months...years until he decides he is tired of you sitting in his jail. Do not think Judge Patton is a bad judge however as he plans to serve free Mad Dog 20/20 to all inmates.
Trollfest '09 is a pet-friendly event as well. Feel free to bring your dog with you and do not worry if your pet gets hungry, as employees of the Jackson Zoo will be on hand to provide some of their animals as food when it gets to be feeding time for your little loved one.
Relax at the Fox News Tent. Since there are only three blonde reporters in Jackson (being blonde is a requirement for working at Fox News), Megan and Kathryn from WAPT and Wendy from WLBT will be on loan to Fox. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both and a torn-up Obama yard sign will entitle you to free drinks served by Megan, Wendy, and Kathryn. Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required. Just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '09 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
Trollfest '07
Jackson Jambalaya is the home of Trollfest '07. Catch this great event which promises to leave NE Jackson & Fondren in flames. Sonjay Poontang and his band headline the night with a special steel cage, no time limit "loser must leave town" bout between Alan Lange and "Big Cat"Donna Ladd following afterwards. Kamikaze will perform his new song F*** Bush, he's still a _____. Did I mention there was no referee? Dr. Heddy Matthias and Lori Gregory will face off in the undercard dueling with dangling participles and other um, devices. Robbie Bell will perform Her two latest songs: My Best Friends are in the Media and Mama's, Don't Let Your Babies Grow up to be George Bell. Sid Salter of The Clarion-Ledger will host "Pin the Tail on the Trial Lawyer", sponsored by State Farm.
There will be a hugging booth where in exchange for your young son, Frank Melton will give you a loooong hug. Trollfest will have a dunking booth where Muhammed the terrorist will curse you to Allah as you try to hit a target that will drop him into a vat of pig grease. However, in the true spirit of Separate But Equal, Don Imus and someone from NE Jackson will also sit in the dunking booth for an equal amount of time. Tom Head will give a reading for two hours on why he can't figure out who the hell he is. Cliff Cargill will give lessons with his .80 caliber desert eagle, using Frank Melton photos as targets. Tackleberry will be on hand for an autograph session. KIM Waaaaaade will be passing out free titles and deeds to crackhouses formerly owned by The Wood Street Players.
If you get tired come relax at the Fox News Tent. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both will entitle you to free drinks.Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required, just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '07 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
There will be a hugging booth where in exchange for your young son, Frank Melton will give you a loooong hug. Trollfest will have a dunking booth where Muhammed the terrorist will curse you to Allah as you try to hit a target that will drop him into a vat of pig grease. However, in the true spirit of Separate But Equal, Don Imus and someone from NE Jackson will also sit in the dunking booth for an equal amount of time. Tom Head will give a reading for two hours on why he can't figure out who the hell he is. Cliff Cargill will give lessons with his .80 caliber desert eagle, using Frank Melton photos as targets. Tackleberry will be on hand for an autograph session. KIM Waaaaaade will be passing out free titles and deeds to crackhouses formerly owned by The Wood Street Players.
If you get tired come relax at the Fox News Tent. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both will entitle you to free drinks.Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required, just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '07 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
39 comments:
The top 15 are worth taking out a student loan for. You might actually be able to pay it back after 10 years of working 80 hours a week. You shouldn't think about the rest unless you've got a big pile of cash you've been wanting to set on fire.
Why are law schools, from top-tier right on down to Ole Miss and below, continually inundated with applicants? The days are long gone when it was a gentleman's honorable profession, and a good way to make nice, nice money. Look at all the graduates these days, who either find no jobs, or have to settle for some crummy one, while that huge student loan looms. I think that, for many liberal arts majors, law school is a default plan, because they don't know what the Hell else to do with that worthless BA in philosophy or political science. And unlike med school (which you can't get into without some knowledge of science), just about anyone with a knack for guessing well on standardized tests can do passably on the LSAT, and be admitted somewhere. I think it has become a huge racket. Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be law students.
No, surprise's here.... NEXT !!!!
Ole Miss was not last in the SEC at least.....mainly because the few cow colleges in the league don't have law schools.
This....like almost every academic ranking of colleges.....makes the UM-MSU bitter rivalry seem a little silly.
But just wait til one of those US News rankings come out showing which school is the biggest bargain basement deal! UM, MC, MSU...they will shine!
i've always heard there is not much difference between any of the top 125 law schools. They use the same books.
Ole Miss University has themselves a nice, little tier 4 law school. Good job, goobers.
I'm a lawyer, been one for 16 years, hence lucky enough to get a job before the bottom fell out.
I'll post here the same advice I gave my college senior this week: don't pay to go to law school. If you can get a free ride, maybe. But it's not worth the crushing debt.
What are six lawyers at the bottom of the Mississippi River????????
A good start!!!
Which one did Matlock attend? He did alright he got a show don’t he
Once again, ole miss is bested by LSU.
But which school produced the world's richest (and disbarred felon) lawyer, huh? Gittin' all high and mighty you city folk. Ya see?
But, but, but....Harvard of the South...or something
If they produced competent lawyers, Tom Mars wouldn't be continually making the entire university and athletic department his bitch.
Oxford turns out lawyers who are nothing but corrupt to the bone. The dang law school itself is named after the guy who filed the articles of secession for Mississippi and was a Confederate colonel during the Civil War. It's nothing but a club for privileged rednecks that couldn't possibly make it anywhere but within Mississippi. If you go to class at their law school, study a little, you pass. Then so many of them work within and among MS government, they usually know someone or are related to them, and they get a job. Mississippi - where you're born and inbred to get a job with government.
The McLaw degree is much like McDouble on the value menu....except you are paying $20 instead of $2. I occasionally eat at McDonald's if I really need something and it is fast and convenient. I do not seem it out though.
But when there is no other restaurant around and you can't get a table at a decent place, the McDiubke has appeal. A heartbeat and willingness to pay the tuition gets you a shot at a McLaw degree.
As an in-state student, my tuition at Ole Miss was roughly $6000/year. That is not overwhelmingly expensive. Not sure what it is now as that was damn near 20 years ago.
Of course MS College didn't make the list. Ever see that fool named Matt Steffy?
There are folks who graduate from UM that pass the bar in Louisiana, where the Napoleon codes make law different from most States.
12:24 is dead-on. Law School, for many people is nothing more than a fall-back for not having another plan. The bastardization of the profession is, largely, the profession's fault. Think about it: if you want to go to medical school, you have to make that determination early in life (much earlier now than in past times), work HARD with that career goal in mind, be smart enough to be competitive on the MCAT, and hopefully get in to a medical school (of which, there aren't a tremendous number.) On the other hand, to go to law school, all you have to do is get ANY degree, do well enough on the LSAT, and have enough money to pay for a law school (of which, there are MANY.) It seems to me that the legal profession (of which I am a part) would do well to start realizing there are too DAMN many lawyers! The biggest problem with that is, when you graduate that many people out of law schools, they ALL have to eat......so what do they do nowadays? They foment litigation to try and make a living. Of course, it's not called that, but that's exactly what it is.
What was once a profession is now nothing more than a business. Ask anyone who has been practicing for more than 40 years, and they'll tell you what a miserable profession it now is. While you're at it, ask an attorney if he/she enjoys practicing law. Guarantee you won't find more than 10% who will give you a positive answer. Again, I, unfortunately, know first-hand...............
"i've always heard there is not much difference between any of the top 125 law schools. They use the same books."
When your professor picks up the phone to recommend you for a clerkship there is a HUGE difference among schools as to who is willing to take their call.
No one likes lawyers until they need one.
Mississippi College didn't make it to the top that is classic. Oh Steve Stanford needs to be fire from MC.
I only practiced for 5 years. I have been home with the kids for 16 years. My husband didn’t finish college, but he was making 5 times my salary, by the time we were both 30. If he hadn’t paid my loans off, I’d still be making payments. My eldest child is dead set on law school. I told him that unless he gets a scholarship to a top tier school, it isn’t worth it. He plans to get a useful undergraduate degree, at least.
Who the hell is Tom Mars and why should I care?
Well, my law school remains solidly in the Top 20. But I agree with most remarks here about the changes in the profession over the past four decades. Successful lawyers have always worked hard, but today’s grind is unbearable to many, if not most. Very little is genteel or gentlemanly (or ladylike) anymore. I’ve had a good career. I have practiced in a large firm, a small firm, and solo. I’ve earned a good living. But, I swear if I had to do it over again starting in the 1970’s, and if I could see into the future, I’d be doing something else.
I’m a 22 year career lawyer (regional firm partner) and would not change a thing.
Life is what you make it and a law degree and a modicum of respect for others with some tenacity can make for a very productive career.
Is being a lawyer a guarantee like a doctor who has an instant client in Medicare and insurance? Absolutely not.
Does it afford you a chance to make a decent living? Yep.
People hate lawyers until they need one.....then they want the meanest one in town.
For those yearning for less lawyers, the profession today is a product of societal needs and continues to meet those needs.
I am old enough to remember when being an attorney was an honorable profession.
The first thing that went wrong was advertising.
Then too many State Bars , ours being among the worst, did not focus on their ethical and professional obligations.
But, the worst is the politicizing of the judicial system. There was no recognition that buzz words in campaign literature worked. Nor was there recognition that judges could have financial ambitions, emotional problems, and become senile. And, as a part of that, instead of having our best legal minds appointed to the Courts, it's based on their politics, not their legal scholarship or aiming for the ideal of justice being blind.
That's how we end up with Citizens United and lawyers knowingly lying in court to juries in " defense" of their clients among other things which I'm sure has Thomas Jefferson rolling in his grave.
There are honorable lawyers left but they are hard to find. Even some of the professional organizations have lowered their standards for political reason or by seeing money as a measure of the man.
"Call Morgan and Morgan at #whatever to see what your case is worth."
Steve Stanford has nothing to do with the law school's academic ranking. He's over the administration of the college (physical plant, bookstore, police, etc...), not academics. Blame the VP for Academics or the Dean of the Law School if blaming someone makes you feel better.
"Is being a lawyer a guarantee like a doctor who has an instant client in Medicare and insurance? Absolutely not."
Doctors do not have clients. They treat patients. Learn the language.
Are lawyers obligated to take the case of anyone and everyone, including people who have absolutely zero chance of paying their bill? Look up EMTALA if you don't understand the playing field.
This mess was brought to us by legislators and judges, almost 100% of whom are lawyers.
Should be "FEWER" lawyers, not "LESS," 9:30. And 12:11 is right about clients/patients. Let's all take more time with our comments, and polish them before eagerly posting. Boosts credibility, for one thing.
The return on investment on the so-called "grind" just isn't there. Lazy millenials need to learn a trade.
EMTALA applies to emergency rooms at hospitals accepting Medicare. Most doctors are free to choose their patients. Over half the doctors in Mississippi choose not to treat Medicaid patients.
"Let's all take more time with our comments, and polish them before eagerly posting. Boosts credibility, for one thing."
You go right on jerking off to that thought, 'polishing it', as it were. The rest of us will continue in your absence.
Oh, 6:38, your crude retort marks you as one of those who post the idiotic comments. And "in [my] absence"? In your dreams! I am not going away. And neither are you, I fear. The wonder is, that Kingfish even allows dolts like you, who use terms like "jerking off, " to pass the robot test. If I were him, I'd zap your sorry slobberings right into oblivion. "As it were..."??
Doctors have clients.
Medicine quit being a “practice” and became a “business” decades ago.
If you labor under the notion that you are “seen” for a sufficient amount of time for a doctor to truly advise you as to health risks you are sorely mistaken. Study after study demonstrates lack of time between doctor and person is inadequate.
You are but a number to your doctor.
And figure out when the word “hospitalist” showed up in our vernacular. Doctors stopped “rounding” because....yes the money isn’t there to pay them and they don’t have.....time. Higher volumes with less reimbursement with increased overhead.....
It’s a business....you are a client.
And sick at the house? Good luck.
More than a few people go to law school for the same reason they get an MBA...these are flexible degrees that enhance undergraduate degrees.
Professional organizations hire those with business and legal skills as do corporations.
I know more than a few highly successful business owners who went to law school but never expected to practice law ..some never bothered to take the Bar exam. Knowing the rules is always helpful.
The problems in all professions these days stem from profit has becoming more important than ethics and legislation reflects that cultural change. Success is not determined by honor and a life well led that contributes to more than self. Patriotism that includes service to strengthening the principals of a free Nation is no longer fashionable.
Once upon a time lawyers were respected as those in a community who worked towards a goal of justice just as doctors were all about healing. Doctors , since they are making the same mistakes lawyers did, shouldn't be surprised that their profession is beginning to be seen as greedy bastards as well.
You can go on line and find out why Medical Doctors have lost their licenses. You can do the same for insurance agents. There is no avenue (or at least I can't find it) telling WHY and WHO have been disbarred in Mississippi. If there is a site telling why, please show the site.
Based on the current tuition rates it would cost you $101,610 at MC and $47,646 at Ole Miss for law school. The latest survey from the Bar on lawyer salaries has it consistently trending downward in Mississippi. I think it is around 140K a year right now. To the average Mississippian that is a lot of money, but it is also a lot of debt with a very tight employment market.
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