Friday, June 24, 2011

Rankin County convict tries to get on the bench.

Update:  June 23, 2014
This guy is in a runoff tomorrow against Gary Windham for Constable in Rankin County.  Just reminding you of his past shenanigans.

Original Story from June, 2011:

It seems we have a rat in the woodpile known as the Rankin County Justice Court District 2 election. Former Rankin County Constable Charles Lindsay, Junior is the candidate in question. Why do I write former? Because he was forced to resign after he tried to steal $28,000 from Rankin County.

The Clarion-Ledger reported on January 7, 2005 Mr. Lindsay resigned "after admitting he falsified court documents to obtain $28,000 in county funds." The wayward constable tried to bill the county for serving papers on people he never contacted or arrested. Mr. Lindsay entered a pre-trial diversion program and was placed on probation for five years. Then District Attorney David Clark stated "In order to do this, he had to sign a confession." However, there was one additional verse to this wretched song of public corruption: "Lindsay agreed never to run for public office again."

So the question must be asked: Why is this crook, and I do mean crook, running for office and why hasn't someone challenged his candidacy? He has no business sitting on the bench- period. What's next for him? Ticket-fixing? Judgments awarded to cute little honeys who come before him? Special deals with favorite lawyers? Apparently Mr. Lindsay got his record expunged after his probation expired. However, Mr. Lindsay still agreed not to run for office. Mr. Lindsay should not sit on any bench but one in the jailhouse, not the courthouse.

By the way, does anyone notice how District Attorney Michael Guest has not said a word? Claiborne Frazier, Susan Ridgway, the Evans Brother, Alford, it just keeps on going.



















62 comments:

Anonymous said...

Its my understanding that what Lyndsey and all of the other constables over there were doing at the time was getting other people to serve the papers for them. He was serving as many as he could, and getting others to serve papers for him, in return for part of the fee the county paid. Basically, he ran it like a business! (You dont have to be a constable to serve papers). People were fussing at there because he was making alot of money doing it, and they felt it if he wanted to do it that way, he should leave office and go into private business. David Clark jumped on it, because it looked good in the newspaper! Just like he always did, and just like other DA'S do now!

Anonymous said...

Probably safe to say that Mr. Lindsey will not be buying an ad on Jambalaya.

Curt Crowley said...

I will take Charles Lindsay over the incumbent any day of the week. And I know nothing about Mr. Lindsay.

Anonymous said...

Since there was an expungement then there would be a court order sealing the records and prohibiting custodians of those records from commenting.

Perhaps Michael is following the Law.

Anonymous said...

Kingfish, I think you might want to do some additional research before before lighting the torches and gathering the wood. This incident occurred during David Clark's administration, not Michael Guest's.

Kingfish said...

I am aware David Clark was the D.A. back then. Nothing to stop Guest from holding a little press conference and reading public news stories from back then. Also there is the question: Did the D.A. object to the expungement?

the first comment is a textbook spin job. Problem is, Mr. Lindsay was CONVICTED and CONFESSSED to filing paperwork for people not served. In other words, he bilked the county. Period. He did work very hard indeed: at stealing from the county.

Anonymous said...

Did you call Lindsay for comment?

Anonymous said...

8:26
READ THE NEWSPAPER ARTICLE.

Lindsay confessed to the charges against him. AND he wrote a letter to the DA saying he would not run for office again. (That tell you anything about his word?)

The other crime was that David Clark didn't prosecute him to the max.

A public official admitting he took money illegally should not have been granted the deal Lindsay got.

This is one big Charlie Foxtrot.

Now, after 5 years probation, he comes back and thinks the voters are stupid enough to elect him as a judge?

Sadly he will get some votes - that is really, really scary.

Anonymous said...

11:22 - who cares what a convicted, confessed liar would say?

Anonymous said...

Is he still doing PI work?

Anonymous said...

Ok, I'll bite. Are there any grounds to contest his candidacy? If so, what office do I contact?

Anonymous said...

If he got pre-trial diversion, he was never convicted or confessed to anything! He entered into a agreement that did not force him to admit guilt, or to allow him to be convicted if he completed the program. Had he failed to complete the program, the DA could have put him back onto the court docket and pursued the charges at at trial! David Clark put out this story and said these things. I wouldnt believe a word he said. And I'm not just protecting Lyndsey. There is no telling how many trumped cases Clark had in office. Let Lyndsey run, if the DA really thought they had a case or was not worried about losing at trial they would have never made that offer to begin with! Pre-trial is a deal made by the DA when its a bad case, and they can make money off the accused bc they charge a big fee. Clark and Guest both have never just done the right thing and dismissed a case that was poor. But they wil give you pre-trial which pads their operating budget, and saves them face. While the accused would rather take it than a chance with a jury and the great unknown! Show me a innocent man, that passes up a pre-trial diversion program and ill show you a innocent fool.

Anonymous said...

I have no opinion on this particular race but the entire Constable position is a useless and antiquated position and is simply a boondoggle for people I'll equipped to do anything else. The concept that we need an elected position of an armed process server is a joke. Why not have an elected Buggy Whip Inspector? Yet another example of the Mississippi taxpayer paying for bullshit.

gator77 said...

wow its amazing how people will take hearsay and fiction and spin it into total bulls**t! I think you should call Mr. Lindsey and ask for his side. Remember David Guest went on a political witch hunt and hung crappy inditments on several officials in madison and rankin county!3 constables were forced to resign over what was honestly someones ego and political aspirations!!!!!get a grip spinsters!!!!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I have no opinion on this particular race but the entire Constable position is a useless and antiquated position and is simply a boondoggle for people I'll equipped to do anything else. The concept that we need an elected position of an armed process server is a joke. Why not have an elected Buggy Whip Inspector? Yet another example of the Mississippi taxpayer paying for bullshit."

And may I ask, where did you get such great expertise about constables? From your comments it is obvious that you have no knowledge of what constables do or that they are paid by fees for the work that they perform and not with taxpayers money. You spout off about things that you know nothing about and expect everyone to accept your BS.
It would be far better to remain silent and have the world think that you are a fool than to open your mouth and confirm that fact.

Anonymous said...

If your going to run a commercial for Judge Shirley I will not eat at Olgas anymore!

Anonymous said...

gator77, I agree with you that people should get the facts straight before they try to spin something, but while we are on that subject Mr Lindsay was the only constable who resigned.Please check your facts!

Kingfish said...

8:01:

Shut up, convict.

Anonymous said...

KF, if the person who makes a plea agreement violates that agreement, can't the charges be refiled? IF not, pleas become rather meaningless, do they not?

I looked at the qualifications for Justice Court Judge and was appalled. The elected person has to take a course within 6 months of election and there is no requirement to PASS or COMPLETE the course. He must attend ONLY if he is " physically able". Taxpayers pay for this course , I guess whether or not the elected constable can " physically" manage to complete the 2 week course.

Then I found out a constable is primarily a process server and gofer for a justice court judge who shouldn't need one. Worse there are process servers in Mississippi as well. There's some language from the Middle Ages about " keeping the peace" which is actually pretty funny when you think about it.

IF the candidate is running as an Independent, then 15 signatures are required.

I assume if one runs on a party ticket , the party must approve so who approved this guy ? Who are either the 15 people or the party?

But, generally the standards to run for office in this state need to be revisited and the political parties seem to have incredibly low standards.

And, it's looking to me like a constable is not just antiquated as previously suggested, but a way for the state to get county tax money funneled to a state agency so it doesn't show up in the state budget as an expense.Seems sorta like the legislature authorizing " studies" to be done my our universities and paying them or the AG requiring funds from state agencies for services. It seems to me a budget shuffle so taxpayers have more difficulty in finding out where their money goes and what the real costs are.

Anonymous said...

Thought the real problem was him billing the county for serving arrest warrants when the persons voluntarily showed up at court.

Anonymous said...

When will the Pearl Mayor and board of alderman figure out the citizens of Pearl DO NOT NEED JOHN SHIRLEY as the Pearl youth court Judge? Pearl has the same acess to an honorable Judge Broome as all residents of Rankin County. Shirley has run for most everything in Rankin County and needs to go home where he belongs.

Anonymous said...

It is a toss up as to who would be worse for Rankin County between Charles Lindsey or John Shirley.
Do they have opponents?

Anonymous said...

I have been friends with Judge Shirley for over 20 years, he is a friend to law enforcement and a good man and better Judge.

Anonymous said...

Shirley understands his need to please law enforcement in his bench rulings.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like some crooks are mad that Judge Shirley is tough on crime.

Anonymous said...

2:07 Check the Circuit Court criminal minutes from early January, 2004, through late December, 2007, and you will find many cases that were dismissed by Clark's administration for lack of evidence.

PTI is to benefit non-violent first offenders, primarily young offenders; or to give a benefit to a defendant-turned-state's-witness.


You must be one of those corrupt politicians or their cronies that Clark did convict. This is pretty mild; back in the 80s when he convicted most of the Rankin County Supervisors, his house mysteriously burned down.

Anonymous said...

I've worked in Rankin County Law Enforcement almost 20 years and can honestly say Judge Shirley is one of the better Justice Court judges that we have had since I've been here.

Anonymous said...

Shirley has the little man syndrome. He enjoys it with PEARL youth at "his Pearl Youth court."

Anonymous said...

May we could petition the court to reopen Lindsay's case and get a bettter sentence?

fullyinformed said...

Lindsay's campaign can be summed up with "birds of a feather". He feels most comfortable with other convicted felons. God help Rankin County if this man is elected a judge. He doesn't know MS law and he wants to be a judge!!

Anonymous said...

If Lindsay wants to deny that he committed the crime, he should send a letter to the DA authorizing the release to the public of his CONFESSION, his plea agreement, and his letter to not run for public office again.

Anonymous said...

Can anyone tell me if Lindsay and Shirley have other opponents? Surely Rankin County can do better than these two!

Anonymous said...

Is the DA up for re-election? I'd like to do better than him.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 7:30
I don't think anyone who is electable

Anonymous said...

If Shirley is so sure of this slander he is using for his own motivation!!!! Why doesnt he go to the proper authorities and have them do something about this??!! Yes thats right HE CANT!!!!! Shirley should stay in youth court and keep his little man syndrome!!!

Johnny Stephens

Anonymous said...

Justice court judges do not Just hear criminal cases but civil cases as well.If he runs his criminal court as he does civil i would certainly have to pray for those that don't have connections. He is biased, has complete disregard for the Law and picks and chooses sides even when a thugs admits they owe money to a plaintiff. He completely disregards Miss. State laws rather than follow the state statue. And the person on here that states he knows John Shirley could u possibly be the officer who gets kickbacks monthly for each and every kid Judge Shirley keep on probation. Not only Does Judge Shirley keep first time offenders in Pearl Juvenile court so long they drop off the school rolls, he treats a first time minor offense like a hardened criminal so he can pad the pockets of some minions who bow to him. Judge Broom is elected by Rankin county as the juvenile court judge and a far better man for the position. Pearl is a backwards city paying a judge the citizens DID NOT elect and the official in Pearl should stop wasting tax payers money for this UNELECTED JUSTICE COURT JUDGE who doesn't give a Crap about our youths. And he certainly does follow the Law in JUSTICE COURT. And Charles Mindset is and will always be a crook. And yes he did admit it and resign. TO THE PERSON WHO ASK.....YES THERE IS A CHOICE BESIDES SHIRLEY AND LINDSEY. THERE ARE THREE IN THE RACE AS ANNOUNCED IN RANKIN COUNTY NEWS FOR JUSTICE COURT JUDGE. DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME BUT WILL KNOW BY ELIMINATION OF SHIRLEY ANSWER LINDSEY WHERE TO PUT MY MARK ON THE BALLOT. Please rid these other rodents out and vote for the One without the name SSHIRLEY or LINDSEY. From a law abiding citizens fed up.

Anonymous said...

Johnny, Please don't wish SHIRLEY on our Pearl Youth! Shirley should observe Judge BROOME and learn how to avid making career criminals out of Pearl youth with his Juvenile court rulings.t

Boarzombie said...

I noticed Lindsay has "Republican" on all his signs. Not that I care what party he's affiliated with personally, but isn't there a ethics rule about declaring a party in a judicial race? I know the Supreme Court said you can a few years back, freedom of speech and all, but isn't it still frowned upon? I notice most candidates still don't do it to give at least the appearance of impartiality. Just a thought....

By the way, my neighbor pulled up his Lindsay sign. I wonder if JJ blog had something to do with that.

Anonymous said...

There are 4 in Rankin County Justice court race. Last names are; Grant (Attorney), Lindsay (former constable), Shirley (Attorney), and Welker (former fireman, now registered nurse). Lindsay has some criminal problems from past; Shirley disregards or just doesn't know Miss Law especially civil as he prefers thugs to be given a chance with no law to back it and in return it allows them to stay in this county rather than draining the swamp, and the other two... Well one will get my vote.

Anonymous said...

Shirley tough on crime. Go sit in his civil court one day and open your eyes. He flat out lets crooks steal money, possessions etc from law abiding citizens and doesn't even matter to him if you bring the Miss Code Law and show him.... He just tells you he's the judge and he decides and does not care what the LAW is. He makes his own. Go ask any youth who rolled a yard how long they stayed in juvenile jail or how long he kept them on probation or better yet how long they had to wear an ankle bracelet. He has absolutely caused kids to drop off school rolls causing them to be more likely future drop outs and criminals. To city of pearl officials...STOP WASTING TAXPAYERS DOLLARS ON A NON ELECTED JUVENILE JUSTICE COURT JUDGE. RANKIN COUNTY HAS AN ELECTED JUSTICE COURT JUDGE WHO CARES AND KNOWS HOW TO TREAT AND JUDGE JUVENILE OFFENDERS AND GIVE THEM A CHANCE IN LIFE. And I am not talking about repeat offenders, however Judge Shirley certainly knows how to ruin any kids life as he gives them no hope. Put this man out of office as he is just like the old establishment in Washington. And Lindsay broke the law but Shirley just abuses his title to do the same whether it's Justice Court or Juvenile Court. From a concern citizen of Rankin county.

Anonymous said...

Wow, a 20 year law officer and you can still sit and defend Judge John Shirley. Could it be you are the one getting paid each and every month John Shirley keeps a kid on probation. That's just a great incentive to let a kid off probation now isn't it. Or maybe your just one of many officers who break the law to get a legal reason to railroad someone. Oh there are plenty decent honorable officers but just as many crooked ones. Bet Shirley rules in your favor every time...ya think. ... I am certain there are numerous innocent people in jail due to your seemingly tight relationship with Shirley. Growing up with an attorney as a step father and another previously in law enforcement and a mother who was a paralegal accepted to Harvard law school, I am informed of the crooked and honorable Law officers. Even had a few admit their wrong...just for the glory on their record. Better jump ship while you can cause one day Crap will hit the fan....and by the day... You just pretty much admitted John Shirley does not stand for the accused but with police. Judges are supposed to be impartial...not to favor one side or the other.....and that Judge John Shirley is not.

Anonymous said...

10:11
Prentiss

Anonymous said...

I hope Lindsay or any other canidate will send Shirley to the house or even better the big house!

Anonymous said...

Charles, you may be fitted for bracelets in your future; hope you think it was worth it!!

Anonymous said...

Funny how the Lindsay gang is trying to distract the conversation away from him and make Shirley the bad guy.

Well, it won't work.

You can't change the fact that Lindsay signed a confession admitting that he falsified documents to get money from the county that he didn't deserve (read steal).
You can't change the fact that he signed a document saying he would not run for public office again. (He's running)

You say the DA had a weak case...uh... does that mean Lindsay's attorney, Bill Kirksey, was so incompetent that he couldn't defend him against those weak charges and advised him to sign a confession and take the PTI? I don't think so.

Keep em coming, you folks are good for a laugh, if nothing else.

Anonymous said...

If anyone thinks Lindsay is trying to distract from him, well you must not understand that Lindsay surely would not want to stir this this pot. The FACT of the matter is when someone opens a discussion on this Justice Court Judge Race all incumbents and challengers become fair game. Maybe some don't understand the term freedom of speech or better don't understand that Lindsay broke the law and took his punishment. He did not hide behind a robe and break and twist the law or play God in making his own law. If your going to tell the truth then the current corrupt Judge deserves the same scrutiny as well as other candidates. John Shirley deserves the same on his proven disregard of the law. And as the citizens of Rankin Country pay his salary i believe we deserve a judge who abides By Miss Law and can be present more than 3 days a month. That in my book is stealing from taxpayers as well. He is too campaigning to do his job of which he is not very good at. Don't see you saying anything about all the discussion on the DA. Funny how you blame one but not the others. Facts are facts and many many want John Shirley out period....and lawful concerned citizens care more with the unlawful biases by the one on the bench now than what others did years ago. Lindsay broke the law And took his medicine, but Judge Shirley continues to disregard the law in civil court and in criminal court does not seek the truth as his loyalties are only to the police who may or may not be truthful. He is not impartial but self centered and just looking for feathers in cap. Justice will b served one day whether its Justice Court or juvenile court, his day will come. Maybe some would b interested in just how many of his rulings have been overturned. Don't know the number but will inform when i finish my research. So next time people want to judge others faults.... You might consider what else may be exposed and remember others have facts and opinions too.

Anonymous said...

John Shirley has run for every office in the county and now he has somebody writing stuff like this to keep his position because he knows he will will never be elected to another position. He needs to go home and just go to Youth Court one a week for the City of Pearl and leave everybody else alone. On Lindsey I think if you knew all the facts about the case you have a better understanding. It's called Rail Roaded by David Clark!

Anonymous said...

What does Judge Shirley legally running for other Judicial offices have to do with his qualifications to serve and a Justice court Judge?

When Charles Linsay signed a confession admitting to guilt, should have been end of story.

Charles, this might not end well for you!!

Yum-Yum said...

Chin Up "Mr. Charles." A resourceful guy like you who doesn't let a little thing like being a felon stop him from running for a judgeship, is bound to have other aspirations. Hey I know, hang a shingle out that reads "Mr. Charles - Not Really a Lawyer...but I Play One All the Time." After all, you didn't spend all that time being a Constable and a P.I. for nothing, right? I mean there is alot of law to be learned riding around in a car and then sitting in a car spying on people.

Anonymous said...

I would like to ask JJ why you took my blog off of the comments AFTER you had posted it for several days. Did I hit a nerve with some of your lawyer buddies.Every word that I wrote was the truth about our legal system and the short falls that need to be cleaned up - i.e. ALLOWING A CONVICTED FELON TO BECOME A JUDGE. The TRUTH does hurt sometime. I BET THIS BLOG WON'T SHOW UP EITHER. A SIMPLE STRAIGHT ANSWER, PLEASE.

Kingfish said...

Grow up and quit throwing a tantrum. All you have to do is send me an email asking why I zapped it and include the comment if possible. It was probably fine but for just one or two sentences.

Anonymous said...

6:35 a.m. JUST ANSWER MY SIMPLE QUESTION, PLEASE. If my blog was fine on your web site for several days (except for one or two sentences, as you stated), then WHAT PROMPTED you to go back through all of your blogs and delete mine.

Kingfish said...

Quit being stupid. I get over 50 comments a day and approve most of them. How the hell am I supposed to remember a comment from an anonymous person. I told you what to do, you don't want to email me and tell me what you wrote, that is your problem not mine. Any more tantrums by you are not getting posted so grow up.

Anonymous said...

We all know that Charles Lindsey has been very active in the P I business (trailing citizens for hire) and was a constable that served over 800 summons ($28,000 divided by $35 each). Question: If he was elected judge, would he not have to recuse himself from hearing any cases of people that he has pursued in his professional career. This would be a nightmare for the court system.

Miss Toten said...

I only support Judge Shirley and 1 of them I don't know Forrest Welker, the other 2 is a bunch of crooks and do not trust them at all...

Anonymous said...

Prentiss M Grant is running for Justice Court. Mr. Grant has been living and practicing in Rankin County for 21 years. His website is www.prentissgrant.ms

Jim said...

Yea, I understand Prentiss Grant is a good choice. Talk around town is he is he understands how to serve the people and respect law and thats what we need.

Anonymous said...

Yeah I have heard really great things about Mr. Grant. And it is especially important to me to have someone who knows the laws! I find it crazy that you do not have to have a law degree in the state of Mississippi to be a Justice Court Judge! So its either Grant or Shirley and I truely believe we just need a fresh face in our Justice Court System. Grant is my choice.

Anonymous said...

I think Prentiss Grant has not gotten enough recognition. He is probably the best choice. He should get his name out there more and anyway he can. There's only a few weeks left, advertise, advertise, advertise. Because not many people know much about him.

Anonymous said...

Your right not many people know about Mr. Grant and thats one reason why I posted a comment. I see all the trash talk and thought maybe someone could use some good news on a candidate. Maybe we should help him out a little bit and try and talk him up to people we know!? And for that matter help ourselves to get a really good candidate into a position where we as citizens of Rankin County need one!

Anonymous said...

I definetly think Prentiss Grant is the candidate that needs to be elected. The problem is Charles Lindsay is blanketing rankin county with his signs and door to door campaigning. The people of Rankin County need to be well informed of the candidates they are voting for. I can say this, Lindsay brought his campaign spill to my door and I can tell you the majority of his spill was lies. Rankin county needs a good and true candidate.

Anonymous said...

Prentiss Grant if you read this PLEASE cover all of district 2. We need a decent candidate.

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