Tuesday, April 18, 2023

Read and Weep

 The settlement agreement between the Jackson City Council and Mayor Chokwe Antar Lumumba is posted below.  

The settlement should come as no surprise.  Simply put, the law has a loophole.  The drafters of the statute never contemplated a Mayor would not submit a second vendor or the same vendor over and over to a city council after rejection of a contract.  The law is clear the legislative branch can not select nor negotiate with a vendor.  Thus what took place in Jackson was a good ole Mexican standoff as garbage literally piled up in the streets.  

The Chancellor did what he could (after witnessing some incredibly bad lawyering), which was put the two sides in the room together and ask them to figure something out.  Sources say Hizzoner would not give an inch in the discussion.  One Councilman finally flipped and agreed to the one-year contract with Richard's Disposal.  Who flipped? Well, if you look at the four members, who would be most likely to flip? That is your answer.  

Unfortunately, and it's a big unfortunately, there is no requirement for the issuance of a new RFP.  None.  Nada. Zip. Zilch.  Thus there is no assurance we won't be back here again in a year as the Mayor demands we get his precious 96-gallon carts from Detroit and that, my friends, is the bottom line. 





71 comments:

Anonymous said...

At this point anyone that voluntarily submits to being ruled by these people by staying in Jackson deserves what they get. Please don't go on the news whining because you got carjacked trick or treating or don't have any water at your Fondren restaurant. You got exactly what you signed up for.

Anonymous said...

In other words, they got past this by not fixing it....but the can is a bit farther down the road.

Anonymous said...

As we speak legislation is being crafted on the state level to remedy this procedural defect

Anonymous said...

How much was spent on legal fees for this non settled fiasco?

Anonymous said...

I bet Todd Mardis is happy this trash fiasco has taken him off of the front page.

Anonymous said...

This is bullsh*t.

Judge did drop a reminder for the council: writ of mandamus. If mayor wont do his job (submit RFPs), then file writ to force him to do it.

Whatever. I'm incredibly disappointed with that Judge.

Anonymous said...

9:07 AM, assuming the can does not get stuck in a pothole!

Anonymous said...

Why has Republic Services never been mentioned as a possible vendor? I saw two of their trucks just this morning on my way in to work. All we've heard is Richard's Disposal, Waste Management, and FCC Environmental. I just figured I'd float that question.

Anonymous said...

So, the city of Jackson is not operating as a democracy. The people have figureheads, but no real representation.

Here, you have a devout marxist, using heavy-handed tactics to impose his will, not the will of the people. Yet we hear no national outcries from all those fake freedom lovers that wailed about the threat of losing their precious democracy in the last national election.

Even on this message board, we have the hypocrites that condemn everyone, and everything on the other side of the political spectrum, yet they are silent when it comes to the little tyrant of Jackson. Is this how freedom dies, at the hands of the race card?

Anonymous said...

How damn dumb can the Council member who flipped be that he or she didn't condition the flip vote on a new RFP being completed?

Anonymous said...

9:24 Yes, that's exactly how it dies.

Bill Dees said...

The term "governing authorities" is not defined in the RFP code section. It is defined in other code sections as "the City Council". I can find no code section that defines "governing authorities" as including the mayor in a mayor council form of government. So I don't think the issue is as clear cut as folks think.

Anonymous said...

richards jacked the monthly rate by $155k?

Anonymous said...

Republic Services did not submit a proposal as a part of the previous RFP.

Anonymous said...

Lubumba’s will is the will of the people. He was elected not one, but twice, by the citizens of Jackson by an overwhelming majority.

Anonymous said...

If the city were 85 percent white and they voted in David Duke as the mayor, there would be outrage on an international level. But the same things happens with the races reversed and not only is there no acknowledgment that we've elected the most racist human in Mississippi (if not the world), if anyone disagrees with his leadership abilities, they are called a racist.

Kingsized said...

Finally, we can get back to the water crisis! I almost forgot!

Anonymous said...

Stupid, stupid, stupid. What was the Council and/or their lawyers thinking ? The whole reason for filing this suit was so the Council could get the authority to issue a new RFP and/or negotiate with other vendors. So they settle but yet don't ask that the Mayor be required to issue a new RFP during the next 12 months of this new emergency contract ? Idiots ! Make no mistake, the Mayor will not issue a new RFP over the next 12 months, and on the last day of this new contract, they Mayor will once again submit a bid from Richards and Richards only. We'll be back in this same position 12 months from now. And this is what you paid Deshun Martin $325 an hour for ? Good Lord, you got ripped off.

Anonymous said...

Attn 9:26 I doubt if intellect had anything to do with it. $ probably did.

Anonymous said...

Is JPD’s conflict resolution class still available? Perhaps it could help the City Council and Hizzonor resolve their differences. As I recall it was funded with federal grant money, so there is no out-of -pocket expense.

Anonymous said...

Kingfish, your real facts & truth coverage about all things Jackson is A+++++++

Anonymous said...

I have never been happier with my choice to leave NE Jxn 20 years ago.

It is hard to fathom why people live there. I get the po' folks are stuck, but they appear to be supportive of the mayor anyway.

The wealthy ones that live there are such an oddity to me.
What a bizzare masochistic fetish.

Anonymous said...

Now we citizens who live in outlying areas better not hear a damn word about how expensive your garbage rates are about to skyrocket or having to purchase 96 gallon carts Jackson residents!

Y'all voted for this dumpster fire of administrators so deal with it!

Anonymous said...

Who would want their State Capitol in a city run like this?
Realize hard to move the capitol but probably not so hard to relocate employees and as much government services as possible. Go anywhere else in the State and quit wasting my tax dollars.

Anonymous said...

At this point anyone that voluntarily submits ... You got exactly what you signed up for.

Jackson rate of population loss is accelerating. At current rate Jackson will be < 110,000 in population by 2040. The data is irrefutable. Jackson's bankruptcy and/or state takeover is within spitting distance now.

Anonymous said...

God I love the Drama and seeing a plan come together.

Ben Dover fools said...

Kicking that cart down the road. Wash, rinse, and repeat in one year. Right?

Jackson is terrible when it comes to paying vendors, but you can take it to the bank that Richard's will be paid on time. Otherwise the palm grease would stop flowing. Right?

Anonymous said...

Anyone who thought Lubumba would not prevail is either incredibly dumb, naive or hasn't been paying attention.

Anon said...

April 18, 2023 at 9:35 AM

That is NOT true! Lumumba wonky default basically. Default in that it was the poorest turn out! Voter apathy is just as bad as voter ignorance. I voted NOT for this mayor. Neither time. 💯

Anonymous said...

Apologies if this question has been asked: the big ugly carts that no one wants......how many millions will this cost us when it is forced down our throats?

Imagine how big the sales commission, admin. fees, etc. will be for the lucky person.

Anonymous said...

SHOCKWAY RULES!!!!

Molon Labe said...

This is the Marxist Playbook in action.

Anonymous said...

Pursuant to Miss. Code Ann. Sec 31-7-13(r), the Mayor will be required to issue another RFP to enter into a contract for garbage collection. The current proposed emergency contract is only being entered into because the city intends to declare the present situation (two weeks without garbage collection) an emergency.

Anonymous said...

I have no reason to doubt you Kingfish but how could an attorney that is an expert in government law (especially municipal) not have known that? Looking at you John Scanlon! So, the expert crook did his homework and knew he had them all along. Not sure why he didn't show his hand long ago and avoid what has happened over the last two weeks. That is certainly a fatal flaw in the statute that needs to be corrected.

Anonymous said...

“Lubumba’s will is the will of the people.”, why don't you just trot your happy ass out there, and do an in the street survey, asking how many residents want a 96 gallon garbage cart.

Then use your phone, or slither back to your keyboard, and report the results. Don't lie. Before one councilman, folding like a cheap suit, changing their vote, 4 of the seven councilmen said their constituents didn't want the new carts.

Those constituents, even though they are the majority, have no representation. That doesn't matter to you, as long as your tyrant is giving the orders. You go comrade.

Anonymous said...

Deshun is cheap considering his usual rate is $600 or 700 an hour. Like anyone believes that.

Richard Wise said...

Kingfish -- why doesn't the council ask for a writ of mandamus to force the Mayor's hand? They could do this while the temp 1 year contract is in place.

Anonymous said...

"Who flipped? Well, if you look at the four members, who would be most likely to flip? That is your answer."

I'm not playing detective, just tell us who flipped?

Anonymous said...

"Pursuant to Miss. Code Ann. Sec 31-7-13(r), the Mayor will be required to issue another RFP to enter into a contract for garbage collection."

There is your writ of mandamus.

To the sane City Council members: File a writ of mandamus NOW to get it in the court system. Hopefully a judge would agree since Mayor hasn't issued another RFP this long. It will take months to get thru the court so thats why you need to file it now. Rolls thru court, new RFP for 2 x week, no can. All this working while crap getting picked up.

Anonymous said...

@10:32, there is a street survey every four years, it’s called an election. That’s how democracy works. Elections have consequences. Y’all want different consequences, elect better politicians, such as a Republican every now and then.

Anonymous said...

Guess all those fundraisers for the mayor in New Orleans at Jimmy Wood's house finally paid off...literally. Woods owns Metro Service Group and they are quietly behind Richard's Disposal because their name is toxic in New Orleans. Labor strikes and horrible customer service.

Go see who are the largest donor's to Luboomba's campaign (especially the 2017 race) and you'll see JW's name at the top.

Seriously, why can't someone just ask the mayor why does he care so much about who picks up the trash? Just like why did Yarber want Socrates team to win the sludge hauling so bad? And why won't Richard's reveal who their subs/partners in this contract? Answer to all: Friends with benefits

Something smells...and it ain't the trash.

Anonymous said...

Kingfish, what’s your source for 1) the mayor is the one demanding to have carts and 2) that these carts are connected to Detroit?

Anonymous said...

The Lubumba put is gaining steam for Madison and Rankin property owners!

Anonymous said...

Dumbest Judge in Mississippi.

Anonymous said...

"Lubumba’s will is the will of the people. He was elected not one, but twice, by the citizens of Jackson by an overwhelming majority."...

...By an "overwhelming majority" of the 10% of voter-eligible citizens who bothered to vote. Jackson's poor leadership is a fixable problem.

Kingfish said...

Banks

Anonymous said...

Kind of like what they do every year with the national debt limit in Washington.

Anonymous said...

So, who has tho clean up the illegal dump sites that have occurred since all of this shit show started? Who gets a well funded contract for that because we know The Maintenance Division can’t or won’t….they can’t keep up with the street repairs.

Anonymous said...

Augmenting the comment from @9:35, the Jackson electorate prefers even the most incompetent black candidate over any competent white candidate. That is just fact, plainly and simply stated.

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
"Lubumba’s will is the will of the people. He was elected not one, but twice, by the citizens of Jackson by an overwhelming majority."...

...By an "overwhelming majority" of the 10% of voter-eligible citizens who bothered to vote. Jackson's poor leadership is a fixable problem.

April 18, 2023 at 11:45 AM"


He won by almost 70% of the vote. Why do you think more people will vote next time? And if they do, he'll still win by a sizable margin. Jxn residents haven't been out protesting over the water issue or this. They don't care. They care about free stuff, sticking it to the man, and social justice, that is what they think Lumumba brings to them.

Most of the people commenting are not Jackson residents, he'll win by a landslide again. You think he's an incompetent, corrupt crook, most Jxn residents see him as a social crusader who will be soft on crime and get them free stuff.

Anonymous said...

So, there was no company contracted to pick up trash as of April 1. What was the options to get trash picked up in a very short time period. I don’t think this cluster could have continued while the spitting match took place. It appears to me that a limited contract with Richards ,regardless of not providing excellent service ,was the only options to get existing trucks and workers in action. Six months would have probably given the Mayor and council enough time to get a new RFP together, if they worked together. BIG IF. It’s understandable the Council didn’t want to agree to a 6 year commitment to Richards as proposed by the Mayor. One has to realize there are 3 players involved . Richards had to agree to the proposal. One year is probably what it took for Richards to agree.Since Richards will want to prove that they can do the job satisfactorily and remove their questionable service reputation the citizens may just get good service.

Anonymous said...

Say it louder for the people in the back 12:38.

I love to see the optimism that things will change, but the reality is as you stated. Again, take a read down any comment section on any COJ FB post on this OR water and you'll get a pulse on the people.

Can't wait to find out if the Council, who proved that they're the adults in the room, will actually work the crowd and tell them all they want is for them to be able to put their garbage out on their curb in the best way for them, not the best way for the Mayor. Unfortunately, Lumumba will probably get the jump and claim victory for the flip instead of the Council getting the victory for the compromise. Come on guys, you need to start fighting fire with water.

Anonymous said...

hey 9:50 So you are happy you left Jackson 20 years ago? I' ll show you a person who has a "bizarre obsession". It's you, who is still posting about the city 20 happy years after pulling up your stakes. For God's sake, leave it alone. Move on. Sheesh.

Anonymous said...

The passengers on a sinking ship pointed bow down right for the bottom will follow almost any fool who assures them the water they're taking on is simply ballast.

Any remaining wealth in Jackson is already effectively underwater.

Anonymous said...

Forgive me if I am just not following.. does this mean that the Mayor got his way after all? I mean, black and white.. thats what happened right? The gray area is all the fees and BS that the city and Council was put through but now folks are desperate so... the Mayor's pick is back to the rescue.
Lort, I hope someone is digging deep to get this asshat out of office.

Anonymous said...

1:29 seems pretty bitter about COJ's current property values and strangely pleased with Chuck so I am just going to wish him well in his/her radical city of choice.

Signed 9:50, who has every right to be angry and opinionated about a city they once enjoyed.

Anonymous said...

North Sate Street...paved, landscaped, new sidewalks. Old Canton...paved with walking/bicycle lane. Northside Drive...paved. Meadowbrook Rd...paved, walking/bicycle lane, nice dividers. If Richards is less expensive and they do the job, wonderful. Walkers, Roosters, Basils, Pig & Pint, Aladin, Saltine, Brents, Cups, P.J.'s, Soule, The Bean..new Trustmark and Cadence bank buildings, remodeled Fondren Fuel, Corner Market, new Homewood Suites...Little Tokyo and Amerigo coming soon! Movie theatre, bowling, neighborhhod get-togethers and festivals. Renovated Lakeland Senior Living. The Meridian. $60M development at the former McRaes location. The ever-growing UMMC. Residents, who know each other and who wouldnt consider living anywhere else. No brick veneeer Wal Mart or Mcdonalds. Smirk and sneer all you want. We know what we got and it just keeps getting better.

Anonymous said...

Worst run City in the country.

EFGAlterEgo said...

April 18, 2023 at 1:29 PM
Like it or not Jackson affects the suburbs so they will always have an interest in Jackson shenanigans. And speaking of I'm glad my wife and I moved out 3 years ago.

1:47 PM
>Any remaining wealth in Jackson is already effectively underwater.
Say it on repeat for the mentally slow. Hell I know that a coworker of my wife wishes she could move out but doesn't make enough to sell her house and buy one in the 'burbs. Her house would probably buy half a house in the burbs. So she's effectively handcuffed to Jackson.

Anonymous said...

Im a Jxn hater because I resent how far its fallen, but 2:22 I am happy to hear about anyone who is living there and enjoying life.
I mean that with no snark.

Everyone deserves to live in a place they love.
I found mine, and I am glad there are people who still love living in Jackson, too.
I dont have to understand it, but I wish you happiness.

Anonymous said...

Thank you 2:22, for paying taxes to support the other 90% of the city. Couldn't do it without you!

Anonymous said...

@3:03...some issues are just inherent in living in an urban area, but there will always be a market for convenience and proximity to work, school and other amenities. No traffic jams, no wearing-out vehicles or sitting in traffic. It's just a trade-off and I dont spend my days arguing about "my dog's better than your dog" with my friends who relocated to suburbia. They're happy, I'm happy. Good enough.

Valinda said...

Well, well, well. The city council caved into Hitler’s pressure!! Citizens of Jackson, you asked for it. Don’t get on the liberal news stations whining and crying when your rates dramatically increase. We, the surrounding counties are going to laugh at you once again. This site “tells it like it is” with smart and intelligent people. I am praying for the honest and hardworking citizens of Jackson who are stuck with “Dictator” Antar as their leader.

Anonymous said...

I read all the comments on this board, some I learn from, some entertain me, and some, well, they're useless.

Some that I read make me sad, some upset me, and some give me a chuckle. I really like the last ones. Then there are some that are real puzzling.

There are some real puzzlers on this thread. The puzzlers are those that are sitting in the flames of destruction of a once proud, vibrant city. Seemingly unaware of the flames.

I can only surmise that the puzzlers believe that Jackson has bottomed out, they have weathered the storm, and a rebound of peace, and prosperity is the next occurrence on the road for Jackson.

I would like to point now, to those writing those puzzling post, to another city with a storied past. That city is Chicago. Have you noticed what has, and is, taking place there? I, along with many others, thought the leadership of that once proud city couldn't get any worse. Man, wasn't we wrong.

If you don't think the mayor of Jackson is taking note of Chicago's new communist mayor, you are mistaken. Jackson, you ain't seen nothing, yet.

Anonymous said...

@2:22, so you’re saying there is only about a half square mile in the city of Jackson that is livable after the state took over the law enforcement, the Feds took over the water supply after Tater fixed it, and a judge made your garbage service happen. Glad your happy, keep rolling whatever you’re smoking, it’s working.

Anonymous said...

Why don’t y’all just say Chokwe was right and he’s smart😂

Anonymous said...

Did the judge get his law degree from an internet Southern Eastern New Hampshire and Technology and Hair Design School of Law?

Anonymous said...

7:22, yes, Fondren is doing well right now, and I'm glad. But what about the rest of the City, the other 90% ? Get out of your little bubble and drive around the rest of town, then come back here and see if you still want to brag about how well Jackson is doing.

Anonymous said...

Without the actions of Tate Reeves saving Jackson’s water and the state legislature providing CCID law enforcement, Fondren restaurants would all be closed and it’s residents would be fighting crime like the rest of Jackson does everyday. Fondren owes Republicans in this state a huge thank you and debt of gratitude, but their too stupid to realize it.

Anonymous said...

He was NOT right. But, he did manage to orchestrate his desired outcome. Whether that was his initial intent (in which case he was shrewd); or he planned as events unfolded, the result is the same. His poor management, manipulation, deceit and deflection resulted in his "contract steering" to a company with less than a stellar reputation. The question that has not been answered is WHY has the mayor been so adamant to contract with RDI to the extent he has? Rejected how many times? More than 3. Talk about undisclosed vested interest in who gets the contract. And ... Who willingly enters a contract with someone who is suing them? No one with good business or common sense. Cheapest bid? We will see. Who wins? Obviously RDI - they, with the mayor's help have the city over a barrel as they will likely be the only vendor willing to work in Jackson given the history and circumstances of this debacle. The mayor wins a hollow victory, in that he will claim he fought for RDI employees and residents, though the emergency was of his own making either through his ineptness or shrewdness. Likely, a combination of the two. If only he showed as much passion regarding the real issues (garbage was not one until he made it one) of crime, infrastructure and general quality of life issues, Jackson would be much better off. Unfortunately, most of his constituents drank the Kool-Aid and just wanted their garbage picked it. To the councilmen who stood firm ...Kudos! You tried. If voters hold it against you, you're better off not being apart of the clown show where integrity and rule of law doesn't matter.

Anonymous said...

I seem to remember a few people crying about the car jackings in Fondren.


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