Friday, April 3, 2020

Where Are You Going?

Are you people staying put? Google wants to know so it checked your cellphone's location history and compiled a neat little report that is posted below.  It has all sorts of groovy information for the state as well as each county.  Read it and weep.





42 comments:

Anonymous said...

Well Shyt. Those sneaky little mother suckas!!!!

Anonymous said...

If you don't have a Google account (I don't) and/or have "location services" turned off (I do), this doesn't apply.

Anonymous said...

Are you saying that Mr. Google is tracking our movements with our cellphones?

Anonymous said...

Fishing. I understand Tate cave in the face of thousands of complaints and said he didn't really mean to close all the lakes in the state. Fishing is a good way to socially distance.

Aisle B Bach said...

I hope you downloaded it Kingfish..........I can't read the tiny print and the powers that be Google must have intervened at Scribd (do they own it too? lol)

Anonymous said...

I'm glad I have a good vpn that works on cellular networks.

Anonymous said...

This is the laughin' "Russian" from the other thread that mentioned this data and source. While it is potentially _somewhat_ useful to show broad trends, that is about all it is. Most importantly, it is only Google's data from those phones using Google-related location services, so it isn't all-encompassing anyway.

Some points to ponder:

First, some of the tinfoil hat brigade are going nuts over the data being collected as some deep intrusion into users' privacy. Clearly, the data is only a general overview. Look no further than the Mississippi data on "transportation hubs" - the reason for my joking about the "Jackson subway" on the other thread. There are large sections of the US that have little or no public transportation (or have small, nearly unused systems). So "data" about utilization of "Transportation Hubs" is highly suspect or statistically meaningless because in many areas there are essentially no such locations, or, no meaningful number of people ever located in the minuscule number of such locations. Note the data purports only to be from "hubs," not people allegedly using public transportation to travel because, generally speaking and especially in places with large heavily-utilized public transportation systems (such as NYC), there is no effective way to determine if someone is travelling on a public bus or a private vehicle (or taxi/Uber/Lyft) next to the bus without some pretty extreme data analysis. Yes, for the pedantic, the data could be sharpened via things like serious motion analysis in conjunction with schedule and traffic flow data, assuming someone would pay to it or for it once done. But it isn't done because there are other cheaper, more accurate, and more precise ways to get that information and anyone who would pay Google to do it already has the more accurate and precise info anyway. IOW, to take NYC again, MTA doesn't need to pay anyone to analyse (imprecise) cell phone location data to tell them how many people that data shows rode the M1 last week because they already have better data.

Second, the numbers just don't add up. If this was highly-precise, truly complete, or (supposedly) all-knowing, the numbers would add up because, well, everyone has to be _somewhere_. For example, if 10% of a given sample of the population is working from home (and assuming them to be honest workers truly _working_ from home), then accurate data should show a transfer of 10% from "Workplaces" (-10%) to "Residences" (+10%). Even if one assumes that some number of those allegedly working from home are screwing around somewhere else on company time, they still actually are _somewhere_, so in Mississippi's case, if "Workplaces" are -30% and "Retail & Recreation" are -32%, if the data were truly accurate, that -62% would be distributed across the remaining locations so that one would see an overall increase of about 62% in the other remaining categories.

That said, the data is at least useful to a point to show a broad trend as to whether or not people are truly "sheltering in place," i.e., staying their asses at home and not out spreading or catching COVID-19, so it isn't completely useless. The bottom line is that it is moderately useful if taken in context and it is very far from any "big brother is always watching our every move" nonsense.



Anonymous said...

Recent reports indicate that the Whitehouse estimate of deaths was pulled out the sky. 100000 people will likely not die and 240k is totally BS.

Anonymous said...

See y’all at Flag island today!!!!

Anonymous said...

To the grocery store and to the parks and beaches were will go. The governors order to close the beaches and parks will help in about a month from now but the damage is done. The grocery stores are still packed in many places. This will not get better until it has gone through the entire population or medicine improves. Folks will never practice social distancing and stay at home because no one knows how bad this virus is until you get it and then it is too late. Today you and your wife and kids feel good. So you say, let’s go to the grocery store. The weather is nice, let’s go to the river and drink. Then you wake up to a fight with this monster and you don’t know if you will win the battle. It’s human nature. I feel good. My family feels good. Let’s go do something. Then bam! You gone! And your family can’t even come to your funeral.

Anonymous said...

What are they considering a transit station? Mississippi isn't exactly known for having wide spread public transit systems.

TheClintonscantsuicideusall said...

Cannot expand the screen.

Anonymous said...

Why weep? At quick glance it looks to me like the numbers are generally down across the board, except for going to parks, which is great (Lord knows Mississippians need more exercise). This is a rural state, you can hardly do anything without getting in a car. Grocery store, deliver food/meds to your elderly parents, pick up school supplies for your kids, etc. Unlike New York where you could do all of that, and most do, without a car. I think this very much works in our favor in these times (lack of public transportation and population density).

Anonymous said...

Fake News. Google does not have the ability to check one's phone location history. Only your carrier can do that. Nice try.

Anonymous said...

Document was removed from Scribd. Please post a link. The county by county data is very interesting (I’ve seen it posted on social media)

Anonymous said...

@10:57 Keep dreaming, friend. You better turn the phone off if you don’t want them to know your location. We will find you. Please don’t be so gullible.

Anonymous said...

@10:04 They can track location history of a lot of people. Not 100%, but a statistically significant number. Running Android on your phone? Waze? Google Maps? GMail app? YouTube? Guess what, those are all Google companies and unless you’ve changed the privacy settings Google has your location history.

Kingfish said...

It's showing up for me. Sometimes Scribd has a problem with HTML 5 or Flash. I can't remember which but you get the idea.

Anonymous said...

Was hoping they would break this data out betweeen those who are driving and those who are using Mississippi's extensive subway system.

Anonymous said...

Here ya go, my wild-and-crazy American just like me comrades:

https://www.google.com/covid19/mobility/

It should be a good link - I got it from a Trump insider who got it straight from the Kremlin. Of course, you realize that if you visit the website, it sends your entire online social media history (and weirdly, an inventory of the contents of refrigerator - I have no idea how in the hell it manages to count your pickles, but it does) straight to Putin's iPhone, so be careful.

Anonymous said...

Check out the increased traffic in Madison parks! I bet that includes the pontoon brigade!

Anonymous said...

10:04AM wrote, "Google does not have the ability to check one's phone location history. Only your carrier can do that."

Um, how much would you like to los...er, bet? Granted, Google can't do certain things but in many cases it can easily determine, ahem, where a phone using its services is located. What did you think, that apps like Waze and Google Maps just get really, really lucky in providing directions? Evven with other apps, it really isn't all that difficult. For example, I know exactly where you were and what you were doing around 10:04 am this morning. And speaking of bets, I also know where you got yo shoes, too!

Anonymous said...

It amazes me that people believe the VPN companies aren't NSA fronts.

For crying out loud, it was actually mainstream news that the most important encryption firm in the world was CIA.

I'm sure this is different.

Anonymous said...

Oh, one more thing - there is accuracy and then there is precision. Generally, precision is a rifle that can hit somewhere on the broad side of a barn five times all in an area the size of a dime. Accuracy is being able to hit the dime taped to the side of the barn five times. In the case of location, precision is knowing that five people are standing next to each other somewhere on the planet and accuracy is knowing they are all in the toilet paper aisle at a particular Walmart. So, if the data is precise, it can be determined they are not practicing social distancing and if it is accurate, it can be determined they are wasting their time.

Anonymous said...

They have been hiding the details of our subway traffic & general data, since its inception. We should be outraged by the lack of transparency.

Anonymous said...

11:50AM wrote, "It amazes me that people believe the VPN companies aren't NSA fronts."

Um, yeah, it is pretty amazing what people believe. I'm sure there is no greater threat to US national security than the NSA not knowing that Bubba or Bubbette from Madison is posting on JJ, trying to score on a dating app, and saying on Facebook. And as an aside, the NSA doesn't need to run VPNs to get everything it wants because it already has chips in everything from your phone to your TV to your fillings listening to everything - EVERYthing - you do, say and even think.

Now, for the sane folks, why would anyone think the NSA gives a shit about what some redneck in Mississippi posts on Facebook about some fishing trip or his opinion about, well, anything? It isn't the NSA that thinks it can monetize your information, it's Facebook, Google, etc., and even then, they don't give a shit about, specifically, what Bubba Earl Redneck, Jr. thinks about anything, all they care about is being able to have enough data to convince "Lardass Pork Rinds" and "Paul Blart's Tactical Operator Supply and Bait Shop" to pay them money to put ads for their products in front of Bubba every time he searches for "how do you get a fish hook out of your buttcheek" or logs onto Facebook to argue about COVID, why his AR is tactically better and more real operator than yours, and why 14 knives, 4 handguns, 27 132-round magazines, and 2 miles of paracord is the minimum a smart person always carries (EDC), even in the shower (with pictures of all of it, along with his tactical Kia keys and Michael Kors battle watch. Note to Bubba - ever heard of Tilex and cropping, there, brother?).

Anonymous said...

I don't know what "transportation hubs" there are in Madison, other than the airport. But considering that the usual planes were circling overhead, all day yesterday, well below the supposed 500ft limit, while exhausted medical folk were desperately trying to catch a few minutes' sleep, it seems the airport is going strong.

And, right this minute, they're back out, pointlessly flying below the clouds, AGAIN, depriving the doc in this house of sleep.

Anonymous said...

11:50, here. Wow. Honestly there's a lot in that response I've never considered or thought about (not sure what all the weapons talk was about, but to each his own.)

I was simply pointing out that believing one's privacy is protected by funneling your tech data through entities which you *believe* you know who owns them (or wrote their code, or who built, shipped, or recieved their hardware, or maintains their security)...well it is a little naive when you consider that the world's intelligence agencies got duped in the same game-PUBLICLY- recently.

After all, the NSA has *never* been caught sucking up ordinary data of Americans...no sir. Never happened.

Have a good one.

Anonymous said...

Agreed 8:35, numbers are being inflated, so accomplishment is inflated.

Anonymous said...

Dang 12:44.

Lighten up Francis.

Anonymous said...

12:12, you got it backwards. Precision is more precise and more accurate than Accuracy.

Anonymous said...

11:05, you're full of crap. If I allow Waze to track me, that has no fucking correlation with google tracking my cell phone. And If I don't use any apps, none of them are tracking me. Crawl back in your paranoia cave and leave sane people alone.

Anonymous said...

Every keystroke, every call, every location, every picture, every video, every google search. The company 23 and me now has access to peoples DNA. They have direct ties to alphabet and Google. The same group that tracks your life.

Smart TV, smart phones, Alexa, security cams, record your home when they choose. Edward Snowden, Wikileaks, FBI Vault dumps, told us years ago.

The fact they are flaunting it should send a chill down your spine.

Anonymous said...

Hmmmmmmm...NSA employs over 100,000 people...yep! 100k sucking the govt tit. But we fuss about a kid needing a free breakfast. Yep. You think these people are patriots or employees? And you call us trumptards? We laugh at people like you because you believe the shit the govt feeds you because you will be the first at the line to get your free money. A lot of us don’t want that shit. That’s why 3% fought for our independence while the other 97% stood on the sidelines and clapped for the winner of each battle. Same yesterday same today. WhT you all have a problem with is that Trump doesn’t like the other countries taking our money. Here’s an old saying keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Think about that for a minute if you have enough brain molecules after the GMO pot you’ve been smoking and the vaping oil. We are locked and loaded. KF brought this to our attention. Take it or leave it but yes Google is bed partners with NSA This time we have to find more than 3% and it will be multiple enemies we will be fighting.

Anonymous said...

Leave the phone at the house. problem solved.

Anonymous said...

They can track me anywhere. I don't care.

After all, I'm a JFP/VIP.
So . . . I'm special.

Send Donna Ladd three dollars and you can be JFP/VIP too !

Sho Nuff said...

I always found it amusing to go to various gatherings of supposed intelligent people. Most, sometimes all, trying to show the rest of the room how intellectually superior they were to others gathered there. Some trotting out obscure facts, that in noway, added to the conversation of the subject being discussed. While others, reasoned against opinions that had been expressed concerning news events of the time. Pontificating to no end the superiority of "their" position. The possibility of them being in era, never once entered in to their thought process. Each in there own opinion, the most intelligent person in the room. A large portion of these people were convinced their bowel movements, had the fragrance of roses. The Apostle Paul said that knowledge puffs up. He was correct. A little humility will go a long way. Some here need to try it.

Anonymous said...

3:27PM - Nope. For example, if I ask you to mill _precisely_ .1234 from something and you mill _precisely_ .1234 inches but I needed .1234 millimeters, how _accurate_ will the fitment now be? Put another way, a rifle may be reasonably precise (sub-1/4 MOA), but a poor marksman won't hit a target - accuracy - simply because of the rifle's precision.

Anonymous said...

Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, can track or locate me by cell phone.

Anonymous said...

A friend once told me if I’m the smartest person in the room, I need to find another room. I think that’s good advice.

Anonymous said...

After all, I'm a JFP/VIP.
So . . . I'm special.


You are my hero. But my 3 bucks ain't forthcoming.

Anonymous said...

11:05 - In four words, 'you're full of it'.



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