How should bullying be defined? Posted below is a notification a local school sent to a parent regarding her child's behavior. The children in question are 14 years old.
Actually the touching incident happened in front of the kid but the girl told a different story when questioned. The actual perp even said a few things about how the girl made him feel as he rubbed her thigh. Lesson for the kid: Those you try to help will frag you when you try to be the good guy.
So should the boy have intervened? Is protecting a girl from sexual assault or harassment bullying? Should the boy have run to a teacher? What should the school have done?
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In this day and age, I have told my boys that unless it is your sister, to stay out of it. No good deed goes unpunished.
I used to operate under the hiding statement that “all that is required for evil to flourish is the apathy of those willing to stand for good”. But that doesn’t work in this world we have today.
I think the lesson here is: It's easy to do right when it results in awards and accolades. If we are to live by our principles, we have to be willing to accept the fallout. Sometimes that means being punished for doing the right thing, and sometimes it's a thankless path. Doing it anyway is what makes in honorable, in my view.
In 14 year old world, snitches get stitches.
Parody: School shooter tackled by hero student. Student suspended for violent conduct. LOL.
The answer is home schooling. Fuck the public school administrators. They live by PC and group think.
Forget it, Jake, it's high school.
The City of Jackson is currently reaping the benefits of zero tolerance and a lack of logic in school administration. The early 90s through 2000s public school grads are killing each other and others at a breakneck pace this year.
Next time just do what anyone else nowadays would do, whip out the cell phone, record it, & post for the world to see.
White-knighting should be discouraged. The boy thought he was doing the right thing, but the girl was probably just using him.
How about minding your own business? That was between the girl and the boy. It’s 2019 girls can protect themselves.
I have no problem with vigilante justice and that's all this was. The moral of the story is just ride away (Hi Yo Silver) and don't get caught.
This chicken-shit approach by the 'administration' will teach kids one thing: Ignore bullying and don't get involved unless you want to be punished.
It looks like some of the preferred approaches are:
1. Rely on someone else to deal with it.
2. Keep your mouth shut.
3. Disengage from society.
4. Wring your hands over the state of society.
5. Publicly shame it.
6. Do nothing under the assumption that you are being used.
7. Mind your own business, assuming that females don't need/want your help, and will be offended if you offer it.
8. Step up, then flee like a criminal.
All of the above reinforces my theory that those most willing to offer advice are those least qualified to give it.
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I wonder how old the kids are in this situation.
Major takeaways: (1) the touching shouldn't have been allowed; (2) maybe the two males were rivals and one was jealous he wasn't doing the touching; (3) maybe the kid doing the touching is just lonely after his teacher/ex-lover got arrested.
Sorry to disagree with the sorry folks on here commenting and suggesting that everyone should 'keep their mouth shut' and let others take care of the problem.
If it had been my son, I would have commended him for standing up for the woman. If it had been my daughter, I would have expected her to thank the 'white knight' and tell the truth when the s**t hit the fan.
Unless, of course, the real truth behind all this is the 'white knight' really was a jealous soul who felt the other boy was infringing upon his personal territory.
It seems that the more PhD's we print for school administrators, the more stupid s*!# our schools step in.
Kids lie. Kids do stupid stuff. Use it as a teaching moment and move on.
And what the hell is a lunch detention?
No good will come from how they handled this. No good will come from the school putting all of this in writing for the world to pick apart. No good will come from mom airing this out publicly. This should have taken all of 30 seconds to deal with.
Most teenaged females are more concerned with their image/popularity than with their personal safety. So her shifting response is easy to comprehend.
My word.
These kids wouldn't have lasted two minutes at any High School/Jr. High school before 1988.
Back in the Day, I watched more than a few petite young ladies embarrass/beat the hell out of over eager boys with raging hormones.
Signed,
"Boomer"
@1:15
I graduated from public schools as did my children.
If my children were young today, I'd home school them.
With such complete and in-depth information, the only appropriate response to "what should have been done?" is clearly "who in the hell could possibly know?" OTOH, just as clearly, it seems readily apparent that no real information is more than enough for most folks to form an opinion and draft a policy manual.
Why don't parents of children in crappy schools march/raise hell against that expression of injustice?
This is why I will never support a teacher pay raise. If this were my son facing “disciplinary action,” then I’d make sure the principal and teachers faced their own “disciplinary action.”
We don't know enough now other than the adults seem to have made what might have been an " isolated incident" worse.
Bullying is a pattern of behavior.
Is putting his hands on girls a pattern of bullying girls for the boy who did it? Or is the boy who objected the bully because he has a pattern of possessiveness with girls he " likes"?
For certain, the mother who posted has made what might have been first handled by the school and then kept to parents teachers in mother who were united in a " teaching moment" strategy, worse.
She has insured that people will " chose up sides" which only " enables" the bully if one exists in this situation... now won't be just the students, but the parents and community as well.
Adults should model " think before you act", " consider consequences before you act", " make decision based on the best available facts" and " learn to control your emotions as it's a sign of maturity".
But, Lord knows, thanks to our insane political climate, no one in this situation seemed to be able to solve a simple problem without making it a huge one!
I wouldn't categorize this as bullying. Normally bullying would be something done constantly. This student simply ended the situation by stating he would retaliate if it was done again. Sounds like the way I was raised. If I did something wrong I was told I would be popped on the butt. I either quit or popped on the ass?
Stop with all the damned off-the-wall assumptions! I admire a young man who protects the virtue of a young woman. And if he gets a note in his 'permanent record', that will be celebrated for the rest of his life.
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