Friday, April 22, 2016

Meanwhile back at the playpen

It seems a certain teacher at a private school in Vicksburg has a tough time controlling his class.  JJ posted a video Tuesday that showed a student climbing back into the classroom window after she had climbed out and flipped off the class.  Another video has surfaced that shows another student showing his strong desire to try out for the gymnastics team:

Earlier post with two videos.


Anonymous said...

That isn't a classroom. More like a poorly run day care.

Anonymous said...

I have taught and then substituted in junior highs and high schools over the years.

This is an incompetent teacher instead of a " bad " group of kids!

A good teacher can establish control of his or her classroom starting the first five minutes of the first day of class!

I learned how to do that in college and never once had to use corporal punishment!

In the early teaching days, I weighed all of 103 lbs and at 5'3"! Brawn and intimidation would never have been a rational option for me!

Making clear what is expected , what the boundaries are, what the consequences will be and a bit of humor was all it took that first five minutes . Only rarely was I tested and when I was, what I promised on day 1 was consistently applied until the message was clearly understood!

Visiting the Neighbor's Lawn said...

I have taught and then substituted

This is an incompetent teacher

A good teacher can

I learned how to do that

I weighed all of 103 lbs and at 5'3"!

Making clear
took that first five minutes .

Only rarely was I tested

Anonymous said...

Missing the point of 11:37's post. Other than regurgitating in italics, what's been posted?

Anonymous said...

But people want to hold a 13 year old girl accountable for the inactions of a grown man

Burke said...

11:37 has trouble with authority figures.

Anonymous said...

Which school?

Anonymous said...

Something tells me that 11:15 never taught in JPS or any other crazy school district.

Teachers have little power. Teachers can't suspend kids, they can't hit them, and they're not the ones that raised the students. In many local schools if teachers write up kids a lot (for good reason) they risk not getting a contract for the following school year.

Go teach high school in JPS, or to a lesser extent in Yazoo, Vicksburg, or Hinds and see what it's like.

Anonymous said...

11:15 is the JJ troll.

Anonymous said...

Oh, please, 11:15. The school actually has to HAVE some consequences they can apply to disruptive students. Communicating "consequences" clearly that amount to nothing more than talking privately with a student doesn't fool the students. They know teachers are powerless. Public school teachers have no consequences to administer. As for private schools, yes, they have a very easy and simple consequence: expulsion. In fact, if they do not expel disruptive students, the school's reputation and certification will suffer and they'll lose "customers". Serious parents will pull their kids out rather than waste good tuition money - they could simply put their kids in public school if they want a poor education for their kids. Public schools will rarely lose many "customers".

Noises In The Hallway said...

Unruly students (scholars) and their even more unruly parents have known for three decades who is in charge of the classrooms. And it's not the teachers.

Anonymous said...

6:56, no one is in charge of the classrooms. Not the teachers, not the parents, and not even the kids. It is like an unsupervised day care.
If teachers really wanted to regain control in the classroom they could.
If parents wanted to raise their own kids they could.
If kids wanted to learn they could.
Problem is there is a very low number of each group that care enough to try to do what is right.

Anonymous said...

Good grief!
There were fewer consequences in private schools than in public ones, especially when the parent was a " generous donor"!
I've taught in both and taught exceptional children ( that's both the gifted and the ones with a variety of learning and behavior issues.
Nevertheless, I never once had to go to the principal or school board to control a classroom for backup!
I let them all know among other things, I was perfectly capable of calling and/or visiting and/or writing their parents or guardians. I would also use one of those means to praise them when warranted. I let them know I was required by law to call CPS if their behavior indicated to me they were neglected or abused at risk children because of how they chose to " act out" in my class. I had no problem describing how a child with good parents was expected to behave. And, I also described how I would help them be better students, how I didn't intend to make learning boring or painful and would help them if they needed help!
I must have sounded convincing as I wasn't tested. But, I was prepared to be. It seems to me that all I had to do was to follow through .
Despite all the political misinformation people apparently believe these days every teacher is well within their authority to do the same! And, even when I went to public school myself in " the good old days", the only teachers that had to paddle any student were lousy teachers and most often coaches!
If you can't outsmart a child, please, do not teach or have children!

Anonymous said...

Nevertheless, I never once had to go to the principal or school board to control a classroom for backup

Shouldn't you have known better than to put this where everyone could see it then admit you were a teacher?

Anonymous said...

Besides 11:15/10:36 am Have any of you actually taught in a public or private school or been for a whole day in a classroom K-12 in the last decade or are you all just going by " word of mouth" and the OMG stories that pass for " news" these days or television series story lines?

Now , I know that are some new teachers and old ones in both that are ineffectual and don't have control of their classrooms. I've even seen a kid be allowed to toss a desk and walk out of a private school with zero consequences, but that is not common people and that is more common in private schools . In public schools it's monitoring halls, bathrooms and the lunchroom and activities outside the classroom and that is the administration not the individual teacher.

Do none of you who vote at schools use your eyes and ears while your there?

And, if you have a kid in school, for goodness sakes, go during the day sometime and just ask to walk down the halls and be there when classes change and observe. If you look at the faces of the kids and see happy faces and hear nothing but single and/or happy, quiet voices coming from the classrooms, the school is hardly out of control!

Anonymous said...

10:15 and 11:36 probably taught elementary or middle school in Rankin or Madison awhile back while acting like they taught middle or high school in JPS recently (minus Murrah, Northwest, and APAC).

I guess y'all forgot about this?

Anonymous said...

Something about this thread worries me. A good many of the comments here seem to come from teachers and 'educators'. Virtually all of these comments contain numerous grave grammatical errors.

Anonymous said...

11:07 am You are right about the grammatical error. Since I am published, I am always happy when I have an editor as I tend to be more concerned with content when I write. I am aware that I am human . I get in a hurry and don't take time to self-edit. I change sentences without backspacing far enough and generally am a poor typist. I did not teach English.
I'm in awe of you since you have never made similar mistakes and because you have time to nitpick.

Anonymous said...

Your comment contains a grammatical error as well, 5:44 pm . Perhaps, you hit the wrong key while typing.

Since I have arthritis and have never been a good typist, I forgive you.

Anonymous said...

2:16 pm I taught middle school and high school students in both private and public schools. I have, by choice, taught only in Hinds County though I have been invited to teach in other counties and at the college level.
I happen to like teaching and like being in the classroom. I wish my age and health allowed me to spend all my time teaching. There is nothing like triggering a young person's curiosity and seeing them become excited to learn.
In another state, I also taught teachers.
I acknowledge that there are classrooms and schools where the administrators and teachers have lost control.
I am suggesting that even in bad schools, there are good teachers who control their classrooms.
I am suggesting that this notion that teachers and parents are helpless in dealing with children of any age is a result of political brainwashing and has become an excuse for ineffectual teaching and parenting.
I am suggesting that there have always been children in classrooms who have misbehaved but that the media has exaggerated the problem. Early in my career, these incidents were handled effectively without publicity.
I am arguing that the teacher in this video acted unprofessionally and outrageously.
I am appalled that some of you are able to ignore the fact that the girl was coming back into the classroom and that yanking her arm so that she hit her head was unnecessary!
This teacher and other adults have turned what should have been a molehill into a mountain ! And, most of you are using this to tout your own agendas. That is not good role modeling for our young people!

Anonymous said...

8:21, wonder who the girl has as a role model? Can't be her parents. Can't be the people who think kids should be able to climb out the classroom window whenever they get the urge. Can't be those who think kids should be in control of the classroom.
Who am I kidding. The kid probably can't even spell role model. Wonder if her parents can?

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