Saturday, April 16, 2016

Jackson water passes lead test.

The city of Jackson issued the following statement:

City’s Water Distribution System Sample Results Below Detection Limit for Lead
Results Confirm Earlier Beliefs that Lead Exceedance Is Home-Dependent

The City of Jackson has received 15 drinking water sample results taken from elevated storage tanks in the city’s water distribution system, and all were below the detection limit for lead. Director of Public Works Kishia Powell said the results, received Thursday, April 14, confirm earlier beliefs that the lead exceedance is due to home plumbing and/or the presence of lead service lines.

One storage tank at Mississippi Highway 18 was not tested because it was out of service for routine cleaning.  Entry point samples to the water distribution system from the City water treatment facilities and five of six wells showed no detection of lead.  The Maddox Road well showed a minimal detection of lead which is believed to be attributable to the sample tap used.  It has been confirmed that the sample tap  is an old brass fixture containing lead solder on the sample tap, which is NOT in the flow path to the distribution system.  The sample tap has been replaced and the lines have been flushed to resample; however, out of an abundance of caution, the well has been taken out of service until a cleared sample is received.

The City’s drinking water has not been deemed unsafe for consumption. However, precautionary measures have been communicated to minimize exposure to lead that may be present in drinking water at the tap. The City is moving forward to meet the requirements of a compliance plan issued by Mississippi State Department of Health, which includes a requirement to optimize corrosion control treatment. The city must improve the alkalinity and pH balance in its drinking water to prevent leaching that is occurring when the water flows through lead plumbing or plumbing that has lead solder. 


Anonymous said...

...and/or the presence of lead service lines.

Which are Jackson's responsibility to the water meter. Since there is no known inventory of what was installed where throughout the city water distribution network the potential exposure threat remains signficant.

Kishia Powell is good at one thing. Reflexive blame shifting.

She wants to make this look like some sort of exoneration but all they've done is eliminate some parts of the system as producing or containing lead. No doubt a necessary step but in no way has she confirmed "earlier beliefs that lead exceedance is home-dependent". Bullshit.

Anonymous said...

Riddle me this:
How does testing storage tanks have anything to do with the piping. Are they mutually inclusive?

Also, are 15 points of data enough to conclude anything 'officially'?

From whom were these tests received and/or who performed said tests? A regulatory body or a private company?

Anonymous said...

If I wanted to bias a study, I too would sample where the lead is least likely to be. In other words, piping that hasn't been replaced since 1950's is still suspect, City of Jackson. And how many low rent houses were built then?

Anonymous said...

I have no confidence in this report.
I have no confidence in the $90,000,000 water meters
I have no confidence in the billing system in Detroit (or somewhere).

Does the City have anything that works?

Anonymous said...

This is a red herring. It's never been an issue of if the city was introducing lead into the water system.

The city followed the EPA in reducing hard water so that the water does less damage to industrial components. Reducing the mineral content of the water makes it harsher and creates less scale.

That scale and mineral content limits the amount of corrosion of lead solder pipe joints and/or lead piping itself. Reducing the hard water means that the supply has to have corrosion control measures and the city does not have those measures in place.

The water we are receiving is treated very differently than 10 years ago or 20 years ago. Then, those same pipes did not leach lead. Now, those same old pipes/joints are leaching lead... simply because of how the water is being handled.

Anonymous said...

@7:22 PM, if the water is being treated differently "than 10 years ago or 20 years ago" then why the lead readings now?

Anonymous said...

Kisha said the city is clean. That means the city is clean.

Nothing to see here. Go back to the streets and the airports.

Oh, she said the streets are fine?

Well, OK then.

Anonymous said...

That guy who got fired from the water dept for showing the news the lead pipes turned my opinion on the city. It's so clear there's lead in the main lines, why deny it? The problem comes from the incompetence of not having the pH balance correct.

Anonymous said...

Most cities treat their water the right way. Have been doing it for many years. Jackson is going the way of several other cities. They are more interested in lining their pockets than the health of the people. Maybe they are right. With the crime rate in Jackson many people will be killed by doses of lead injected forcefully.
Jackson would like to call it racist if people want to know how their water is treated. It works for Jackson and the people living there. If you want clean drinking water you should not be living in Jackson. That could be said about streets also.

Anonymous said...

People today bitch and worry about microscopic levels when ALL PREVIOUS GENERATIONS lived and thrived although their water came out of the ground through lead pipes.

Anonymous said...

12:57 - what a dumbass set of questions. Once a (possible) problem was found with the water from Jackson's system, there are several processes to follow to identify the extent of the problem and what causes it. I damn sure ain't taking up for the incompetence of the city, and especially its public non-works department, but the comment here by folks who obviously know nothing about water systems show the incompetence of readers here is about the same as the city's.

1) It is said that the water that comes out of the system at a user's residence/business, so you test it again at that location (let's call it 'the end')
2) You test the water where it enters the system - a well or in our case, wells and the resivoir (let's call it 'the beginning')
3) If it has lead at some places at the end, and it has no lead at all of the beginnings, then the next thing is you start to look at what is in between.

They tested the 15 sources of water. Yes, 15 points is adequate because it is all of them. Read the damn release or do some studying on your own.

They test all the storage tanks. That's where the water goes after it is received from the source, go through the treatment and shipped to for use. If it is still good there, the problem is now not at the source or in the system between the source and the tank. Understand? Trying to keep this simple for you (and all the other Jackson haters that are making comments but the only thing they know about water is how to mix it with their Jack Daniels.)

Once it these have been eliminated, the next is between each of the storage tanks and the various end users where there tests to be lead. Determine if it is in the supply lines, or inside the buildings or both.

Yes, Jackson doesn't know what kind of lines exist in all its distribution lines. The same thing is true for any city of its size and age. You Madison/Rankin county haters fail to realize the difference in infrastructure that was built almost a hundred years ago and downtown Madison or Flowood that has only existed for the past few decades, and its infrastructure all put into place during an era where data storage and engineering is totally different than when all information was handwritten into ledgers.

But, it does know about many of its lines and their conditions. But they shouldn't just chase after unknowns without a reason. This process narrows down the possibilities and determines if there really is a problem and where to look for needed changes. You and your other schyophants can keep on making your idiotic comments because you think Jackson's so called leadership is incompetent.

You are correct - there is no leadership and there is no competence. But the finding that there is no lead at the source, and no lead at the storage tanks is significant and also a logical process.

Why don't you go back to your Captain Marvel comics and leave the complicated stuff to others.

Anonymous said...

3:54, while it may be true that some posters know little about water systems they do not work for the city of Jackson. From the condition of the water lines, the number of thieves in the dept., and the poor testing it looks like the posters already know more than those working for the water dept.

Aquaman said...

But they shouldn't just chase after unknowns without a reason.

But they are making conclusions about unknowns @3:54 without a reason or any proof.

Read the presser sub:

Results Confirm Earlier Beliefs that Lead Exceedance Is Home-Dependent

They've proven NO SUCH THING.

But thanks for your "idiotic comment".

Anonymous said...

6:12 - wrong. There is evidence that some of the exceedance is 'home dependent'. There is also suspecion that some of the exceedance is from old main line service pipes. If the presser says "confirms" I would agree that is a major overstatement. But it does confirm that it is not from the water - it is a result from somewhere in the distribution system, past the storage tanks and short of your kitchen sink. They have now determined that it is not inherent in the supply or the storage.

I personally don't give a damn about the city. I will agree with you (and 5:04) that the city public works department and the Mayor/Council are incompetent and in over their heads.

But I know enough about water systems (happen to have a few years of education involved in it) to recognize that most of the comments thrown out here could have just as well come from the a/hole bottoms of the posters as they did from their fingers typing.

What I would like to assume will happen is that now the city and the inspectors for the state will find which areas of the city have problems and determine if it is from the distribution pipes. I am betting (but I have absolutely no reason other than my opinion which I am first to admit means nothing) that some will be found to be from city distribution lines and other will be from personal interior plumbing.

As a taxpayer, and one who pays his Jackson water bill, I hope that the city does not feel it is their responsibility to replumb these folks houses. I paid to redo mine - they can do the same or move. But with Kenneth and his cronies on the Council, I wouldn't be surprised to see them try to make this personal responsibility be put on the backs of the rest of us.

Anonymous said...

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit @8:20 PM.

Anonymous said...

8:49. ??? What is he missing that you are comprehending? I can't find your issue.

Anonymous said...

April 16, 2016 at 7:55PM says, " @7:22 PM, if the water is being treated differently "than 10 years ago or 20 years ago" then why the lead readings now?"

Corrosion control. I'm suspecting that the city has been very lax on keeping the corrosion control updated.

I thought I had heard/read somewhere that it's corrosion control system was down, inoperable or not operating efficiently. Whatever the case, the city has been dancing around the issue with all of this "testing" for lead.

After some googling, it appears that even WLBT has pointed out that it's the corrosion control at least as far back as February where they say the MS department of health will monitor the city's attempts to reduce the corrosiveness of the water

Anonymous said...

Just out of curiosity, is there anyone working in the water dept. that can read how to do the tests?

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