Jackson Jambalaya

Had to check my calender to make sure it wasn't April 1.

Stranger things have happened.....

I can't comment because my jaw is still on the floor.

My guess is that Karen is an impatient person, and when she didn't get the quick results she expected she threw Bell over and went back to the familiar. No doubt she's going nuts in the pokey and wants some movement PDQ. I think she's going to be disappointed in that hope.

Is Holloman supposed to sue Bell now because he didn't sue Holloman fast enough? Are these guys smart enough to get paid cash in advance from this flake? ;-)

Un. Believable! No words.

Not too many things surprise me anymore, but this shocked the hell out of me.

At this point, you think she might try, "by reason of insanity...."

Told you she was nuts. At this point, don't believe anything that she claims. Nothing. She is making Judge Green absolutely credible in her read of the situation.

KK

Just great! All of you perfect people have been thrown yet another morsel to whet your pathetic appetite for whatever gnaws at your vengeful brain.

Karen Irby is in prison, isn't that enough for you? Apparently, some of you delight in the fact that she is likely suffering in circumstances that few of you could endure. Where is your sense of mercy?

Who knows what any of us would do under the same circumstances. I'm sure she is confused and desperate as to how to approach any possibility for a shorter sentence. She certainly doesn't have the strong shoulders of a spouse to see her through this. She has no one to rely on but herself, it seems.

I do not know Karen or Stuart Irby. I am just an observer like many of you and I am sickened for all involved in this tragedy. She has been sentenced and is now serving that sentence. What more do you want? Her death?

I can't believe he took her back. They both made some disparaging remarks against each other. It has to be for the money.

She has just forfeited her argument of incompetent council. Everything now hinges on the appeals court overturning Judge Green for bias.

Karen would be well advised at this point to take whatever money she can get in the inevitable divorce and set it aside for when she gets out in 15 years.

The Irby saga continues. Awaitiing the next development and the next and next and next.

Re: 8:40

Like you I am merely an observer in all of this. But this is perhaps the most inane legal move that I have ever seen. Would it make you feel better if we all held hands and sang Kumbaya? But I have to warn you, doing so will not make me any more warm and fuzzy towards either of the Irbys.

8:40 PM While you are certainly welcome to read our interest. I think you will find we have followed this story from the beginning. And, while many of us shared in the tragedy of it all, there was compassion. At this point, she is just nuts. Pure and simple. It also confirms a lot of observations. So while you are certainly welcome to read our interest in the story, you are no better than any here, you have kept the conversation going, praise yourself.

8:52, as inane as it may seem to you, it seems to me that she is certainly desperate and grasping at this point. Would you not exhaust every possibility to lessen a tortuous situation in which you might find yourself?
Perhaps when there are no avenues left she will be able to resign herself to the many years ahead that she will be living this nightmare in prison.
No, singing Kumbaya is rather pointless and stupid whenever it is sung.
No one is asking you to feel warm and fuzzy towards the Irbys. You obviously have personal issues regarding them. That's OK, too, but it is your problem. I hope it doesn't weigh too heavily on you...

8:40...repeat after me...Pogue-Dedousis.

9:04, I never claimed to be better than any here. I think the conversation will keep going despite my participation, but would you not agree that I, too, have a right to my opinion whether you agree or not?
As far as calling someone nuts or insane, I'll leave that to the professionals as should you...

9:12, I think you are reading a deeper level of judgment towards Karen in the comments here than actually exists. There are those of us who knew of her and her antics long before her last name was Irby. And to this day, we continue to marvel in disbelief.

9:22, do you find it necessary to repeat that to yourself in order to remember? I certainly don't...

UNBELIEVABLE: you could not make up a story as crazy as this one -- even if you were trying.

Re: 9:12

Never met anyone in a penal institution that wasn't "desperate and grasping" to get out by whatever means. As far as what I would do, I suppose that no one can say with certainty. I do find it interesting that you are only interested in my supposed course AFTER I find myself to be held accountable for my actions. I'm much more of a root cause kind of person and tend to look at the cause of her incarceration rather than the "nightmare" of her "tortuous situation" which is just another way of saying her being held accountable for her actions.

Seems to me that saying that your first lawyer didn't do his job (in a VERY public way) and then rehiring him is just a tad inconsistent and doesn't do a whole lot to make me resolve issues of credibility in her favor, but hey, that's just me. And as noted in a previous post it certainly waives legal arguments that were available to her, regardless of whether they would have been effective in getting her any relief.

Unfortunately you are totally wrong about me having "issues" with the Irbys. They mean no more to me than any other married couple with one party in the pen. I truly don't have a dog in the hunt, so to speak.

But I have to ask, is your description of her "situation" based on personal experience of being incarcerated or some milk of human kindness that you feel for every inmate in every penal institution?

What we do know is there is a very desperate woman in prison who has no money of her own to pay a lawyer.

If Karen Irby was told if she wants a lawyer to help her, the lawyer will have to Joe Holloman what other choice would she have? The Irby Machine is still running folks.

And this, ladies and gents, is prime example of why you shouldn't marry for money. Money might have given her a big house and fancy cars, but it didn't save her after she killed 2 innocent people. After all of this, she has lost all sympathy. Truly ridiculous. Serve the time and take this time to reflect on your pitiful life as a wannabe socialite and a shitty mother.

9:38
re: your 1st paragraph, I thought we were addressing her present situation.

re: 2nd paragraph, her lawyer reverse move does seem rather inconsistent with the reasons for the switch in the first place. Perhaps her new/old lawyer will provide us with info regarding this.

re: 4th paragraph, I have no personal experience with prison.

As far as every inmate in prison, I think MANY of them should have been executed long ago, but then I don't make the laws...

Re:9:29(2)

Perhaps you are correct. I tend to do that sometimes. Printed words lack all the other cues of communication to color communications.

Re: 9:41

Sure sounds like you are again trying to make KI a victim here. As I have followed the story, KI "FIRED" Bell. If the post here said that Bell quit in the middle of the contest so to speak I must have missed it. So at the risk of becoming stuck on the flypaper so to speak, if KI had a lawyer (Bell) and he didn't quit, who pray tell would have been telling her that if she had a lawyer it would have to be JH? Perhaps that machine is a real ass tickler...... Or did I miss the part about the machine firing Bell?

Like Billy and George, I love Miller Lite.

The sad part is is you sumbitches will comment all day long on this BUT NOT ONE OF YOU MADE A DAMN COMMENT ON NICOLE'S VIDEO below.

Y'all should be embarrassed. All of you.

11:07here...err...hyphenated...what goes around comes around. I'm going to bed.

Good grief, people, put your measuring sticks away. Some of you should form a chatroom just so you can trade barbs. Maybe a playroom? Or a sanbox. Just say your piece and move on. Why do you feel the need to argue and defend your anonymous statements? Are you guys that young or just that immature?Isn't the fact that we all have opinions evident enough? Oy freaking vey.

Holy crap! Six stories? I think of Eric Clapton and think, what if?

KF, I'm honestly confused on this one. If you've dissed your previous lawyer thru lawyer #2, and you wanted a new lawyer, wouldn't it have been better to go to lawyer #3, and not return to lawyer #1, who you dissed in court documents?

Not trying to be funny, and not getting into the whole Irby yea/nay thing. Maybe I'm just not getting it. Is there some type of legal thinking/planning about doing something like this?

Why do you think I included the video? You did notice the voice-over, right?

I was going to comment but after reading all this, whats the point.

Can I say....no CREDIBILITY left with K Irby. Can anyone say CRAZY AND IMPULSIVE. So, who is going to believe a word she says. I don't believe that S Irby was hitting her in the car. She will lie to benefit herself. She needs accept her punishment and stop using our tax dollars by filing these ridiculous motions. I know her attorneys would never tell her that though.

Joe Holloman = Tom Hagen

Very interesting. Karen managed to get the victims' families to believe her story that Stuart attacked her in the car, AND she got an attorney, William Bell, who seemed to actually be working hard to represent her interests against what 9:41 PM called the "Irby Machine" (Stuart and his interests).

So why is Karen now hiring Joe Holloman back, the very guy she had recently accused of not adequately representing her interests? Does Karen now believe that William Bell has not truly been wanting to help her? Or has the "Irby Machine" somehow managed to convince Karen that THEY will actually help her now (at least more than Bell could) if she will stop accusing Holloman et al of being more interested in helping Stuart than in helping her?

Does Karen really believe that the "Irby Machine" will actually help her now? Is she being threatened? What's going on?

6:33 Your questions are on target. Many of us are trying to make sense of this surprise move.

Either someone convinced Karen Irby OR she convinced herself that Bell could not deliver.

Speculation is easy, but it provides no real answers. PERHAPS one day soon we will be provided with a bit of insight as to what/who motivated her to make this change.

I know many will attribute it to this OR that, but we really have no idea...

If you can't win them over with the truth, baffle them with bullshit.

Hollowman is trying to cover his butt!

She's become the bitch and property of a gang of dominatrix lesbians who have pushed her over the edge, and she doesn't remember firing Holloman in the first place.

I like Lespians.

"She has been sold out again... It appears SI has threatened her with their sweet baby boy---i.e., she'll never see their son again (for the next 18 years she spends in prison), unless she goes with the program. No more talk of Stuart beating her and she must vindicate Joe by re-hiring him, who SI paid to defend Karen while keeping Stuart in the clear-(I am sorry, there are ethics opinions close to on-point)--paying him half a million to keep his ass outtaa trouble. Karen is outmanned, outmoneyed and completely helpless and hopeless at this point. I would be willing to bet Karen firing Bell was the result of threats, infra, sham/blackmail with the empty promise SI won't divorce her if she goes along with the machine that clearly never considered her interst, best or otherwise. I hope no one ever loves me like SI---never showed up in court (that chicken shit ass) to stand behind that bogus letter he sent Judge Green. If you loved your wife so much, where was your ASS??? I hope one day he has to stand before Judge Green and get what he has coming to him."

I've heard that the law firm working for the victims' families--the Farese firm--hired a private investigator early on to investigate the wreck. Is it possible the Farese firm and their investigator have obtained some independent evidence to support Karen's claim that Stuart attacked her in the car?

I'm just wondering why the victims' families seemed so ready to believe Karen's account. I know some people would claim the reason is that the victims' families (supposedly) just want to squeeze more money out of Stuart. But are both the Pogue and Dedousis families really like that? Of course, Stuart knew quite well that Karen had been drinking that night and he let her drive the car anyway. So whether or not he attacked her in the car, he clearly has some liability.

The fact that Karen has gone back to Joe Holloman sure makes it look like she is now being threatened in some way. IF she is being threatened, could that now give her more ammunition against Stuart, that is, if she could prove the threats?

Of course, prison is not the safest place for a person to be when one or more people with a lot of money don't want that person to talk.

11:45 and 1:46, you may be on to something. Especially when you take into consideration that Karen contacted WAPT herself to inform the station of switching back to the attorney she said that was working against her best interests. Could this get any more bizarre? How often does an imprisoned inmate personally contact a TV station to inform them that she is using the same attorney she claimed in court records was working against her? What "stuff" is there left to work out?

Per WAPT:
Karen Irby contacted WAPT’s Scott Simmons and said, "Joe Holloman, my old attorney and I are working through 'stuff.’"

If I had very limited phone privileges, I'm pretty sure I'd be using that time to call my children, family and friends, not the media.

I believe that the Irby family blackmailed Karen by threatening that neither she nor her family would ever see or speak to her son again if she did not give up her legal fight. They are controlling her by using a child as a pawn in thier continuing game. It is dispicable of them, and they should be ashamed! They have no morals, and are willing to sacrifice the happiness and wellbeing of a child(even one of thier own) to achieve thier goals. I think Karen will do whatever she is told to do under the duress of the Irby sharks in order to protect her babies. She is sacrificing herself to protect them. I pray that she knows what her rights are legally, but I believe that she considers the Irby Machine to be "all powerful." Maybe they are invinceable. I am beginning to think that is the case.

1:46:

You didn't hear anything. The media reported more than a few times the families had hired a PI within a few days of the wreck.

There you go again KF, being rude to your guests. 1:46 said that they had hired PIs early on.

"I've heard that the law firm working for the victims' families--the Farese firm--hired a private investigator early on to investigate the wreck."

Didn't hear anything. It was reported as news more than once or twice.

are you saying that the information was reported in braille, written, full motion video sans audio or some other format that is not "hearable"?

Anonymous said on July 6, 2010 at 8:46 PM:

“Who knows what any of us would do under the same circumstances.”

I do my best, and so far have succeeded, to stay as far away as possible from doing things that would place me “under the same circumstances” as Karen Irby. That’s why I don’t drink and drive nor do I do countless other heartless, unthinking, selfish things that would endanger others.

If I want to go out drinking, I walk, cab it or even take the bus. If you have money there are drivers, car services and chauffeurs. There are well over 15 restaurants/bars (bars here have to have a good percentage of food sales to sell alcohol) within a four block radius of where I live in the NE Megalopolis, so I have plenty of great choices.

The one thing this case has shown me is that, even after over 140 years, the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution STILL has not been recognized in Mississippi. And that’s why I got out of Mississippi as soon as a decent opportunity arose.

George Steinbrenner died this morning, cause is unknown at this time.

Maybe it was "less filling."