Sunday, July 18, 2010

Trent Lott to Tea Parties: get lost.

"Former Senate majority leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.), now a D.C. lobbyist, warned that a robust bloc of rabble-rousers spells further Senate dysfunction. "We don't need a lot of Jim DeMint disciples," Lott said in an interview. "As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them."

But Lott said he's not expecting a tea-party sweep. "I still have faith in the visceral judgment of the American people," he said." From the Washington Post.

Yes Tent, we don't need a bunch of new congressmen who would say no to Bush-Paulson-Obama bailouts, no to Obamacare, no to Bush-Obama stimulus crap that doesn't work, and dysfunctional governments that can't do their basic jobs when it comes to hurricanes and oil spills. There is a reason liberals never frothed at the mouth when you were in the Senate like they did other conservatives and that is because they knew you were more interested in making deals than actually standing up for something.   As far as I am concerned,  working as a lobbyist suits you well because it means you can now get paid to be the trollop you always were.

36 comments:

Anonymous said...

You hit the nail right on the head!

Kingfish said...

I remember back in 1998 when Lott and the Republicans just knew they were going to clean up at the ballot box that year because of Monica. So they started cutting all kinds of spending deals with Clinton, so much so, their base stayed home and they got beat and Newt quit. He hasn't learned a damn thing.

KaptKangaroo said...

Well put.

Paul Mitchell said...

Blame me, I voted for Lott ONCE. I have voted for Cochran NEVER.

Anonymous said...

This proves that the big parties just don't get it.

People want smaller, limited government that does an efficient job. They want to be protected from the special interests, not cater to them. They want their hard-earned tax dollars to be used wisely and only for what is necessary.

We cannot continue down the road the Democrats and Republicans are leading us down. Our debt and social services are unsustainable and will eventually drag us into the same situation as Greece.

The Republicans shouldn't co-opt the Tea Party members, they should embrace them and learn from them.

john35216 said...

Dead on Kingfish.

Anonymous said...

Hell yeaaaaaaa! KFish !!!!

Anonymous said...

Lott, let me see....mmmm...now just who is he? What he thinks is important how? Oh yeah a FORMER senator and now a LOBBYIST, I get it!

Anonymous said...

Trent and Newt were smart enough to know you gotta be FOR something...gotta have a PLAN STAN. They know that you have to actually get something accomplished while in power.

Contract with America was a plan. Bitchin' and pissin' people off ain't a plan.

The tea party people will work, they'll show up. They'll open their wallets. Might get some folks elected against weak candidates. They'll even get more jokes like the guy in SC on the ballot ( what a fine image for SC THAT turned out to be... now the whole state looks like the state of stupid) but they won't win a national campaign except for the other guy.

Where's the plan for legislation to stop bailouts? Where's the proposal to change law so you can send the crooks at Lehman's or Goldman Sachs to jail? What's the plan to deal with illegal immigration? WHY doesn't the Tea Party have posters of Bush as the Joker or Hitler since he did the worst bailout ( at least the others required and GOT some payback) and Bush supported illegal immigrants and Bush didn't veto ANYTHING when Republican Congress made it easy for banks and Wall St to steal. He vetoed NOTHING. Why aren't Tea Partiers proposing to tie interest rates to the prime like it use to be? Or proposing that Social Security should again be ONLY for those who pay in and can't be used as Congress' slush fund? Where's the proposal to eliminate REA or other bureaucratic stupidity?

Where's the demand that Tea Party candidates have to pledge to DO something that will ensure Congress is more accountable? Their candidates simply have to be against DOING anything. They can play Jesse and just be the party of NO? Compare what Trent and Jesse actually accomplished for conservatives.

The Tea Party comes across as a bunch of anarchists who just hate " guvment" and are too stupid to understand that NO government means chaos. Yeah, there's TOO much government but there's also, a such thing as NOT enough.

The Tea Party would be more honestly called The Fox News Party and even more honestly still, The Rupert Murdock Party.

Kingfish said...

The tea party is a reaction to Bush's last six months and Obama's first 18. Its very decentralized as most grassroots movements tend to be. You are now starting to see some leaders bubble up to the surface as elections take place. I think you will see more of what you are proposing take place in the months to come.

One mistake I think they make is not criticizing Bush more. Rebate checks. Saving Bear Stearns caused the Lehman meltdown. Wall Street Bailouts. Removing leverage limits to help Goldman Sachs. Runaway spending. Obama has kept the Bush economic team in place minus Paulson. I recommend they include some criticism of Bush because what Obama has done (outside of health care) is inject bush's economic policies with steroids. The radical, I mean real radical left knows that, which is why they are starting to hate Obama.

As for your last two sentences, they are so ridiculous its funny.
then there is your remark about too much government. Yes there is and an economy can only sustain so much. At some point, the world economy will recover, what are you going to do when bond yields go up, as they will since treasuries will no longer be the only safe investment, the federal government has trillions in debt, and health care costs skyrocket as Obamacare implodes, which it will.

Kingfish said...

See over here at Redstate the arguments we are having over this same exact comments I made. I dared to criticize Bush and I'm suddenly an Obama fanatic, something everyone that reads this site will find hilarious.

Anonymous said...

I'm afraid even if you are right, that the Tea Party has already racked up too many negatives.

I'd love to have an effective and successful populist movement.

As for the last two sentences being ridiculous, I think you mean one sentence since you seem not to dismiss entirely the next to the last sentence.

So...based on that assumption...

Really? You don't think Fox has underwritten and promoted The Tea Party? You believe Fox has no " point of view" but is fair and balanced? You don't think Rupert is doing here what he did in GB only here it's easier?

You really believe that all the people on Fox actually believe what they are saying and not a one has a profit motive...including profiting from the Tea Party?

Follow the money, KF. And, DO look at the real lives of some of the darlings of the right...including the closeted gays on FOX. If your gaydar is broken, you can find it on the Internet.

By the way, I think the CNBC crowd is trying to play the same game. They just aren't as good at it.

Anybody getting their news from one source these days is just feeding what they want to believe and has no shot at actually ferreting through to the facts.

Need I remind you of the Health Care bill on this site? Didn't find those dire sections to stir the passions... just legitimate questions about cost and implementation...boring stuff that doesn't get the political fires burning.

Lordy, The Daily Show and the Cobert Report are better sources of news!

Anonymous said...

Hammer, nail, head.

Excellent Kingfish.

Anonymous said...

Foxnews is a control for the "conservatives" that don't know how to think for themselves. The same news is reported with a different slant. Liberals? O'Riley anyone? Geraldo anyone?

Remember, entertainment, not news.

Anonymous said...

Lets not forget that there was no tea party prior to Obama becoming president. They never critized Bush for creating the largest expansion of the federal gov't since FDR or, for that matter, any of the Bush policies. Lets get real people the spark that ingnited the tea baggers was the fact that a black liberal democrat got elected president and nothing else.

If you disagree answer me this: Had anyone ever heard of the "tea party" in say 2005 or 2006?

Anonymous said...

There's something to be said for compromise -- something our whole political system is built on -- despite what the hard-core, my-way-or-the-highway, die-before-giving-an-inch moral purists on the left and right say about it. Just saying.

Anonymous said...

To 3:14

As a matter of fact, yes--most of us had heard of it long before 2005-- There was a tea party prior to Obama's election. It occurred in 1773.

http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/teaparty.htm

Kingfish said...

Nice try. Sounds like one of Matt Eichelberger's little smears.


Conservatives just started protesting under Obama? Not so fast. Remember the TARP bailout last fall? calls ran THREE HUNDRED TO ONE against the bailout. Didn't do one bit of good, did it? The Republicans completely ignored the grassroots. McCain showed up, said it sounded good to him, and went back to his exercise in futility. Conservatives didn't bother to vote for the most part in the elections that year and it showed in the election returns just like it did in 1998.

What sparked the tea party movement was not Obama's policies per se, although there was anger at the stimulus and the continued bailouts (Citi should've been allowed to fail for example), but two things: Rick Santelli's speaking some truth about Obama's bailout of homeowners, which by any standard has been an ajbect failure, and the internet. Conservatives finally figured out how to start using the internet to their political advantage. Unlike 1993 when the Republicans fought Clinton's stimulus and other bills, the Republican leadership caved in more easily until Santelli struck nerve. Everyone started asking "why not have a tea party".

While the majority of the tea party movement's actions took place under Obama, the frustration started under Bush as Republican and Democrats ignored the people. Has nothing to do with Obama being black although I shouldn't be surprised a few of you are pulling the race card.

Anonymous said...

Anybody other that me ever wonder why Trent Lott resigned just a few days before the world found out his bro in law Dickie was a scum bag judge bribing crook? Coincidence I suppose.

P. S. And please tell me the good folks at Red State aren’t defending Bush i.e. the worst Prez in American history?

Anonymous said...

My goodness, I believe my brother's wife is on here spouting her usual liberal talking points. Trent Lott is an oily, slick skunk. I am so glad he's out of the Senate. I am also proud to say that I never once voted for him. Once, many years ago, I wrote in Donald Duck rather than vote for him. What a stinking weasel.

Anonymous said...

Send Trent Lott a message. Join the MS Tea Party.

Check it out and sign in at: msteaparty.ning.com

Anonymous said...

8:45 I thought you were referencing Bush when you said, "oily, slick skunk." I had to reread that one.

Anonymous said...

Conservatives just started protesting under Obama? Not so fast. Remember the TARP bailout last fall?

Um, that the fall of 2008.

Kingfish said...

yeah, I know dat.

Anonymous said...

At the MS Tea Party we stand for limited constitutional government, free markets, and fiscal responsibility.

Tell Trent Lott to "get lost".

Check us out or sign in at: msteaparty.ning.com

Anonymous said...

I don't think frustration with government began with Obama. Indeed, I think he benefitted from it.

3:39 PUHLEEZE, 3:16 wasn't raised by wolves...besides, it's rather insulting to the original Tea Party participants who had a clearly stated issue and grievance " taxation without representation" to arrogantly equate the current Tea Party with the originals. Do some real history checking and get the bios of those folks. I actually resent the hijacking of the name without living up it, but it's a good political tool.

While I don't assume that all Tea Party members are racists, it's pretty damn hard to ignore the signs and interviews or expect me to believe this birther /Muslim nonsense isn't an attempt to deny/hide racism or just plain stupidity. Which is worse, being called a racist or thought to be stupid? People... an American woman can and could then birth a baby anywhere in the world and that baby would have AMERICAN citizenship. You have to KNOW that. You can't have lived here and missed it.

I also don't hear you Tea Party folks going after Thad or other Republicans in this state who are spending Federal money like crazy.

Why aren't you campaigning for Mississippi to turn down federal dollars for these programs you don't like? We get 2.02 times the money in tax dollars back that we pay in. Want to see what happens to our small businesses if that money goes away?

And, I'm sorry but MY Tea Party friends down here don't like black people and don't like having a black President. I can't think of a single one who hasn't privately expressed racial hatred long before Obama that shocked me since it came from well educated people. I was used to such sentiments coming from ignorant white trash but now realize racism is apparently learned at home and/or related to population percentages.
Nor can I think of a one Tea Party friend who didn't defend Trent Lott until his relationship to Scruggs was known. Then, that Trent had a relationship with a " liberal trial lawyer" was suddenly a betrayal.

Since I don't know everyone who blogs here, I'll accept you are exceptional to my experience, but you can't possibily look around the Tea Party meetings and miss it.

Look, if your level of anger is as intense against an individual you've never met or a group of people you don't know or directed at people simply because they disagree with you politically, as it would be toward someone you know who has cheated you or cheated on you or done you personal harm or insult, you really need to look inward. It's about you, not about them.

A person can be passionate and take constructive action without being personally rude, insulting,sarcastic and hateful. Well mannered and well adjusted people do that every day.

Anonymous said...

I don't think frustration with government began with Obama. Indeed, I think he benefitted from it.

3:39 PUHLEEZE, 3:16 wasn't raised by wolves...besides, it's rather insulting to the original Tea Party participants who had a clearly stated issue and grievance " taxation without representation" to arrogantly equate the current Tea Party with the originals. Do some real history checking and get the bios of those folks. I actually resent the hijacking of the name without living up it, but it's a good political tool.

While I don't assume that all Tea Party members are racists, it's pretty damn hard to ignore the signs and interviews or expect me to believe this birther /Muslim nonsense isn't an attempt to deny/hide racism or just plain stupidity. Which is worse, being called a racist or thought to be stupid? People... an American woman can and could then birth a baby anywhere in the world and that baby would have AMERICAN citizenship. You have to KNOW that. You can't have lived here and missed it.

I also don't hear you Tea Party folks going after Thad or other Republicans in this state who are spending Federal money like crazy.

Why aren't you campaigning for Mississippi to turn down federal dollars for these programs you don't like? We get 2.02 times the money in tax dollars back that we pay in. Want to see what happens to our small businesses if that money goes away?

And, I'm sorry but MY Tea Party friends down here don't like black people and don't like having a black President. I can't think of a single one who hasn't privately expressed racial hatred long before Obama that shocked me since it came from well educated people. I was used to such sentiments coming from ignorant white trash but now realize racism is apparently learned at home and/or related to population percentages.
Nor can I think of a one Tea Party friend who didn't defend Trent Lott until his relationship to Scruggs was known. Then, that Trent had a relationship with a " liberal trial lawyer" was suddenly a betrayal.

Since I don't know everyone who blogs here, I'll accept you are exceptional to my experience, but you can't possibily look around the Tea Party meetings and miss it.

Look, if your level of anger is as intense against an individual you've never met or a group of people you don't know or directed at people simply because they disagree with you politically, as it would be toward someone you know who has cheated you or cheated on you or done you personal harm or insult, you really need to look inward. It's about you, not about them.

A person can be passionate and take constructive action without being personally rude, insulting,sarcastic and hateful. Well mannered and well adjusted people do that every day.

Anonymous said...

Join us at the Aug. Meeting of the Central MS Tea Party and see for yourself. Planned for Tues., Aug. 10 at 5:30, Flowood Library.

Guest speaker will be Congressman Gregg Harper. Bill Marcy (who happens to be black) will likely be there. Oh yea, he's a MS Tea Party member.

Racism? I think not.

Anonymous said...

Please don't forget that the last 2 years of Bush was a lame duck administration. Which means, the last 3 years have been run by the Democrats. I would take the Tea Party with conservative agenda and less government over Trent Lott anyday.

Anonymous said...

Well put, Mr. Fish!

Anonymous said...

Well put, Mr. Fish!

Anonymous said...

Gregg Harper...love it!

Way to go Tea Party! You really are on top of voting records!

" last two years" of Bush a " lame duck" and Democrats reigned? ROFLMAO

You need to " refudiate" Gregg LOL

Of course, Bill Marcy is going to come. He NEEDS your money and your asses to work. He's running against a Democratic incumbent and the " enemy of my enemy" is my friend. Make money Bill...go for it!

Anonymous said...

PM you are too funny. Tea Party is actually sounding a lot better than Dems and WAY AHEAD of the Repubs (who have clearly lost their way).

Anonymous said...

It's Shakespearean

Anonymous said...

Refudiate is now my favorite new word.

KaptKangaroo said...

For those wondering....

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/Palin_tweet_bard454.jpg



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