Friday, June 2, 2023

Aftermath


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33 comments:

Anonymous said...

Probably wishes no one had called the cops. Damage probably not covered by insurance.

Anonymous said...

The absolute unit forced the cowards to use their armored vehicles.

Professionally_Sketchy_Guy said...

Looks like somebody confused a flashbang with a thermobarric grenade. I feel sorry for the homeowner, they didn't ask for any of this.

Anonymous said...

How does the front of the house pretty well get blown off? Is that from the tear-gas grenades?

Paul Mitchell said...

Okay, I must have missed something. I knew it was a shootout, but I didn't realize it was with Howitzers.

Anonymous said...

Howdy neighbor

Anonymous said...

Thirty years ago the incident would have been resolved by conversation and negotiation. Nowadays, it's let's call every cop and swat team in the area and blow the incident up, so we can blow something up. So sorry for the loss of life, and property. Both could have been avoided.

Anonymous said...

Very tone-deaf comments on here so far after an officer has lost his life. Whatever the damages are, they are immaterial in comparison to the value of human life.

Anonymous said...

It may not be time to Monday morning QB this but there will be questions about tactics.

1) Who was in charge of the scene? Who made the call to approach the house which caused the suspect to fire the fatal round?

2) If there were no hostages currently inside with the suspect then why was law enforcement "pressing" the house? Why put officers in the line of fire when there is no threat inside the house?

3) The scene, from watching news reports, had law enforcement just standing around within eyesight of the house. Staging should have been away from eye sight.

4) It appeared that officers were just self deploying. Was there an Incident Command set up? If so, what roles were given to those officers that showed up?

5) Using the rook to rake the front of the house gave the suspect an even more open range to shoot law enforcement (and probably agitated the suspect even more). Who gave that order?

Anonymous said...

Brandon should do the right thing and make them whole without any litigation. Just do it! If they balk, call Morgan & Morgan.

Decisions to do this kind of destructive entry are often based on limiting the overtime.

Anonymous said...

The thug had a bullet-proof vest, long rifle with a scope. He could hide, and apparently did hide in the shadows of the house. LEO had the power cut to the house, so it was dark. He was a danger to everyone around him with a long-rifle and scope. I'm sure the LEO's were thinking this was just a fun opportunity to tear something up. The thug took out a robot and drones with his rifle and scope. He forced their hand. They negotiated with him for a long time. He chose to escalate and did escalate this event. He chose the path. War is hell and this guy wanted war. Protective vest, high powered rifle with plenty of ammo. He was there to achieve exactly what he did. This is all on him. If you think otherwise, then go to your local PD and sign up for a job. Then after a couple years on the job, you will be qualified to render your opinion.

Anonymous said...

Why would insurance not cover this? Not of the homeowner's doing. If the thug was a resident of the house, then I would tend to agree that insurance may be an issue.

But I'll say this....if insurance doesn't cover, watch the people of Brandon step up. The house will be fixed.

Anonymous said...

They said 150 rounds were expended, but they didn't say what caliber. Damn.

Anonymous said...

Back in the old days we would've just waited him out. Cut the power and water. He will eventually off himself or make an appearance. Not trying to armchair QB, but Brandon PD is now run by several retired highway patrolmen. Honestly speaking, they had probably never even dealt with domestic situations in their careers.

Anonymous said...

Old Glory is still waving.

Anonymous said...

Thank you, 12:01 pm. Very well said.

Anonymous said...

Latest update: "Dearman said the last drone that was sent in saw the suspect, but it may have flown into the ceiling fan and waked the suspect from sleeping.

“He woke up and grabbed the rifle,” Dearman said."

From Darkhorse Press

Anonymous said...

1:05. Totally agree. Making a forced entry, after the hostage was out, rather than waiting him out exposed the officer who was killed to the perp.

Anonymous said...

1:05 - EXACTLY. I have heard that from several folks in the Rankin County area. Their Chief and Assistant Chief are both retired troopers.

Waiting them out is now the standard if there are no hostages or victims. With 100 cops on scene they could have easily created a perimeter rotation and waited him out. Law enforcement isn't trained anymore on going to get the bad guy if no one is in danger inside.

Anonymous said...

Yeh, I’d have to agree that some poor decisions were made. Somebody needs to take an early retirement for this dumbass idea. I’m definitely a back the blue, pro-lifer, but if the dumbass released his hostages and he was alone, there shouldn’t have been a human body visible from inside the house. Leaders cannot make decisions based on emotion. Looks to be the case here though.

Anonymous said...

@11:41AM Good questions
@12:01PM idk, sounds like you’re giving the perp a ton of credit. He had a rifle, a handgun, and a bullet proof vest. Does that mean he was prepared to “go to war” against 100 LE officers or does it mean it 100 LE officers were unprepared to neutralize this guy? Why is local news saying it’s unclear if Officer Tyler had on a bulletproof vest. Ffs, was SWAT not available?

Anonymous said...

Are these the tactics being taught at the Law Enforcement Academy? This tragic situation and the one in the Indianola where the 11 year old was shot both involved poor decision making.

Anonymous said...

You can't confuse the Dept.of Public Safety with a police organization, or law enforcement in general.

Anonymous said...

The dude was no longer a threat !

Sit back for a few hours and he will give up .

But many have to reenact Rambo.

anonomous said...

So easy for us all to say what should have been done. We were not there nor are we law enforcement.

Anonymous said...

@10:06 - Law Enforcement has to answer to the public, not the other way around.

Anonymous said...

All of you nay sayers need to get on your Knees & thank these Brave officers every day. If they had done nothing & waited it out with the suspect having a scope had started shooting up innocent neighbors homes, who would you blame then. Someone called 911 for help & Officers answered the call, not the other way around. Another officer was shot also. Shut the crap up for the family members of all those who answered the call. Thank you all men & women in BLUE. WE LOVE YOU AND STAND WITH YOU!💙💙💙💙💙🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

Anonymous said...

@10:06. Believe it or not, many of us that follow this page and comment regularly are indeed active and retired law enforcement.

Anonymous said...

1:05 you are spot on. You took the words right out of my mouth. This should have so been handled differently. Madison officer should not have lost his life. It’s not his fault and he’s a true hero. Just bad decisions were made and probably by folks that even though they have many years of experience, really aren’t trained to deal with domestic disputes. No Ill intent on my part, but if you know, ya know.

Anonymous said...

At 1:57 PM - Right on, brother. The drone opened the front door, made its way down the hall, turned left and opened a bedroom door and entered, then encountered and crashed into the blades of a ceiling fan and woke the perp.

Which legal dispensary are you using?

Anonymous said...

My mother lives about 3 blocks from this house. I passed by it on the way to her house over the weekend. These pictures have nothing on the reality of what it really looks like. Every single window (and some walls) in this house was ripped out. You can see straight through the house. There are tarps covering now. The homeowners should probably level it and start over.

Anonymous said...

@4:39

Can't wait him out if he has a rifle and is taking pot shots at everybody.

Kingfish said...

A scoped rifle in .308 while the shooter uses an Ironing board as a sniping platform.



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