A hearing on Initiative 65 will be held tonight at the Mississippi Civil Rights Museum in Jackson.
The public hearings allow voters to express their opinions and learn more about how to properly cast their ballot prior to Election Day. Voters will have the opportunity to hear from speakers both for and against Initiative Measure No. 65 and Alternative Measure No. 65A. The doors will open at 5 p.m., and all hearings will begin promptly at 5:30 p.m.
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Pro legalization rally and cannabis smokeout protest peaceful flashmob bring your buds and show the man that access to God's green is a human right 420 blaze it!
Medical Marijuana is a backdoor to full legalization...it is inevitable
11:25, Please repost after you've come down a bit.
Someone explain to me the difference between medical marijuana and the marijuana that has been available for years. Not trying to be difficult, I really don't know the answer.
Legalize all I say. If anyone actually entertains that the "war on drugs" is going well, well, needs to be on drugs. Too many lives lost and way to much money going into a very large and growing hole. Maybe get cops back to neighborhood patrol and true traffic, vehicular, control as well.
Is it true that they are going to show the movie Reefer Madness while passing around a few bowls?
Promises to be an interesting evening; the paid PR lady for legalizing pot put on quite a show last week at the program in Meridian.
For anybody trying to be educated on the differences between the two competing proposals, would encourage attendance; I learned a lot last Thursday from being there and changed my mind about what makes good sense.
Too late already voted for 65, let's do something right for Mississippi just once.
@12:00 medical marijuana would be tax free and quazi legal. Still illegal on the federal level. Still a disqualifier to purchasing a firearm or getting a firearm permit. Still illegal to cross state lines with. The smartest path is for a federal rescheduling to a prescription drug level category and let states figure out enforcement from there. Without a federal reschedule there is no legal way for states to really regulate it in depth without participating in multiple federal felonies.
Double down on the war on drugs. People say this war on drugs isn’t working, so just give up? That’s weak.
Drugs ruin people’s lives and they are mostly to dumb to see it happening.
Also, “medical marijuana” is a joke. People that want it are weak and just want to get high.
Build more prisons and fill them up with these druggies.
The real problem is the federal ban on research.
The arguments against are more dog whistle reefer madness. Let’s take this issue off the table. When we talk about criminal justice reform we really mean I don’t want my tax dollars housing drug offenders. The amount of money wasted on prohibition is understood by the majority of the population. Vote 65-let’s move on. BTW less than an oz is a $250 fine. We just create a market where the seller is a criminal and the buyer owes $250 if caught.
Make it legal.
12:24, thanks for your opinion, Mr. Bomgar.
BTW in which state are medical card holders prohibited from purchasing a firearm by the ATF? That argument is a lie being pushed to suppress conservative voter support. There are dispensary operators in CO and WA that are also pawnbrokers and FFL permit holders. Owners of DANK and the herbal cure in Denver also have FFL.
Along with the federal ban, banks/credit unions can not touch marijuana money, so it becomes a cash economy.
This cash economy is haunted by armed robbers who know where the money is, requiring armed guards, etc. This is ripe for Jackson's thugs to pull armed robberies/shootings, etc.
@2:06 you are welcome Bruce. That opinion found BIG favor YUGE with your friends and neighbors. Big smoke out at Calumet once the bill passes?
... and changed my mind about what makes good sense.
Sure you did.
@2:08. The federal government choosing to not enforce a law does not make something legal even if de facto there are no consequences for breaking the law. The ATF even revised the 4473 form specifically to note that marijuana use is a federal disqualifier from purchasing a firearm.
2:54, you don't think that is possible? Sorry, but not everybody has their minds up their rear ends.
Yes, I thought "medical marijuana" was a good thing - and still do. But after hearing what the promoters of 65 are really after, and what the 65A would provide, it was clear to me that the best vote would be for 65A - which is awa truly medical approach.
Sorry you are so cynical, but not everybody has such a closed mine.
From the looks of it Federal legislation to legalize it will be passed in the next Congress.
The D's appear to be on track to control all 3 branches.
It will still take another constitutional amendment to legalize recreational use here in Mississippi, because of the likes of Gunn and Tater.
Promoters of 65 are for freedom and liberty and the sanctity of the doctor patient relationship. 65a supporters are for big pharma and massive campaign contributions to keep the profits flowing from prescription opioids. And to keep lining legislators pockets. Follow the money.
I've been listening to old "Dr Hook & The Medicine Show" songs since I read this.
One of my favorite tunes is "Freakin' at the Freaker's Ball".
It's a "R" Rated song, but my favorite line is:
" Pass that roach please, and pour the wine"
Gawd that was funny !
I would love to see Delbert Hosemann sing a verse of that 70's cult classic.
Tater singing "Sweet Magnolia Blues" would be good too.
( cuticle are dilated )
If this is so important to legislature why didn't they pass laws to suit them before this initiative ? Now all of sudden it is the worst possible legislation in the history of the state.
Current and past legislators have had plenty of opportunities to make laws for the sale of medical marijuana, buy as usual they didn't do a darn thing
I am against marijuana use in general and this is probably a bad amendment but if it passes, it lays squarely on the shoulders of the legislature
House and senate need to learn a lesson from this circus.
4"32 - thank you for the Joel Bomgar advertisement.
The true statement is that the promoters of 65 are the folks who want to make a ton of money off of the pot shops that they plan to open. Liberty and sanctity of any relationship doesn't matter to them, except for the sanctity of their personal bank accounts. (Thus Joel's calling the millions he has invested into promoting the deal as an 'investment' rather than a contribution, and that's the same pitch that he has made to his millionaire friends that he has talked into writing checks for the promotion - as an investment.
If the "doctor/patient" relationship was truly an issue, then the doctors and other medical professionals in the state would be supporting it. They are not. They have come out strongly against 65 because the doctors have no say about how the product is to be used and for what reasons.
The doctors cannot prescribe the pot that 65 provides - no say so in how it is to be used, how often, what strength, how long. The only doctors that are interested in this are the ones looking to make fees for writing a license to purchase (its not a presciption, and is not to be filled at a pharmacy like other medicines.)
You talk about 'massive campaign contributions - while ignoring the truth. The big campaign contributions are to 65 and are from out of state pot growers and sellers and from large PACS that are for legalizing all drugs. That is the first million being spent on 65. The next two million came from Joel Bomgar - who is looking to cash in big from the measure when he plans to control the industry in Mississippi.
You talk about "lining legislators pockets" and aim at 65A? You obviously have been using too much of the pot early, or are otherwise disabled in your comprehension. Those pockets are on the 65 side and that can be determined by an easy look at the finance reports.
The 'war' on drugs doesn't work? Does the 'war' on on child molesters work? Nope,see KF's top story. Guess we should just legalize it then right? Ask a cop how many of our crimes are done to support drug habits. Or a rehab counselor about how 'safe' marijuana is.
I've smoked over the years, and have never liked it.
But what I like or dislike should have no bearing on what others like.
I hope it's legalized.
It's no different from the archaic "dry counties" .
If people wish to drink alcohol or smoke weed . . . a goofy 1890 0r 1965 "Law" is not going to stop them.
Wrong, Kingfish. The 'real problem' is the ridiculous rule that makes purchasing a firearm impossible if you have a medical marijuana card based on a physician's recommendation. How about they check Kroger Savings Cards to see who all buys two cases of Mich Ultra every four days and deny those people?
I’d much prefer we just completely legalized it. No point in all these government restrictions on something so safe. The only people who lose from this are black market drug dealers and legalized drug dealing pharmaceutical companies, hence why they bought the Republican Party to stall the people’s will.
7:01, that might be, at least in some folks opinion, the real problem - but in fact it is something that everyone supporting 65 should take into consideration. Possessing weed, with or without the license that 65 would provide, makes it illegal to own or possess a firearm.
Yes, purchasing pot under the true reason or guise of calling it medicinal, would eliminate your 2nd Amendment rights. And yes, that is constitutional.
So, forget your concealed carry permit. Or your right to carry. That's all fine and good unless and until you purchase your dozen joints a day permit to enjoy a joint. At that point, you better surrender your guns.
From ATF Form 4473:
(This is question 21:e) Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?
Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.
Then at the end of the questions:
I certify that my answers in Section B are true, correct, and complete. I have read and understand the Notices, Instructions, and Definitions on ATF Form 4473. I understand that answering “yes” to question 21.a. if I am not the actual transferee/buyer is a crime punishable as a felony under Federal law, and may also violate State and/or local law. I understand that a person who answers “yes” to any of the questions 21.b. through 21.k. is prohibited from receiving or possessing a firearm. I understand that a person who answers “yes” to question 21.l.1. is prohibited from receiving or possessing a firearm, unless the person answers “yes” to question 21.l.2. and provides the documentation required in 26.d. I also understand that making any false oral or written statement, or exhibiting any false or misrepresented identification with respect to this transaction, is a crime punishable as a felony under Federal law, and may also violate State and/or local law. I further understand that the repetitive purchase of firearms for the purpose of resale for livelihood and profit without a Federal firearms license is a violation of Federal law.
You were saying? There's no question that someone with a medical marijuana card is prohibited from receiving or possessing a firearm under Federal law, IT SAYS IT RIGHT THERE IN PLAIN LANGUAGE. AS the lady said, I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. Will they enforce it? I have no doubt they will, and it won't be the conservatives, it will be the Dems when they think they have a chance to curtail gun possession numbers by any means possible.
"Double down on the war on drugs." That will require massive open attacks at this point. You honestly think when Rankin, Madison, etc make a stop with lets say a hundred pounds of product seized it's even beginning to stymie the flow of more product. For every stop made there are least 20 plus driving right on by. The only real way would to be effect missions inside the nations supplying the drugs and filling our prisons with USA citizens using them. Guess that is an option, but it will cost us, the taxpayers, up the ass.
Do you possess a Bible in your home, vote a straight Republican ticket or ask your doctor for Viagra samples? Have you or any member of your immediate family ever attended seminary, played in a pool tournament or purchased a quart of Miller High Life at the Chinaman store in your younger days? Would you rather watch Dukes of Hazard than Perry Como re-runs? Is there lust in your heart? Do you belong to a gym, impersonate Elvis or enjoy country music?
If you answered yes to two or more of these questions, you're not welcome in this community so get the hell out of my gun store and take your pocket-New-Testament with you.
@5:00pm It's called Capitalism. You sound like a Communist.
My position has always been: you CAN drink without getting drunk, but you CAN'T smoke without getting high. Have I smoked before? Yes. Should it be legalized? Nope. Anyone who tells you weed isn't the first step toward harder drugs hasn't lived around people who do/did harder drugs. I've known a LOT of them, and they ALL started with pot. Not a single one I know started at any other place.
Seriously, this is ONLY about money. There is no other justification for wanting to legalize pot.
We're gonna be sorry.
You are too funny Beto Biden !
Great stage name , BTW !
Hey 5:00, you wrote some pretty funny shit.
Very few, if any, industries have the financial resources that the pharmaceutical companies have but somehow you and your buddies like Gunn believe that the marijuana industry does? Hell the cocaine industry doesn’t have that kind of stroke.
Imagine going from a life where you were working 60 hours a week and enjoying it to having your life as you know it change forever.
After all options (and I mean all) were tried you are told the only way you can have any pain relief is to take opioids around the clock for the rest of your life.
Would you be willing to try any new treatments that were legal, including medical marijuana?
I have never smoked it on moral grounds but I damn sure would try it now if it could be obtained legally.
Now get back in your 3/4 ton 4 wheel drive truck that you purchased for the sole purpose of being able to look down on people and make your way for a small “Grande” $6.00 cup of coffee.
Lord knows it’s never towed anything or even been outside of the concrete jungle.
"So, forget your concealed carry permit. Or your right to carry. That's all fine and good unless and until you purchase your dozen joints a day permit to enjoy a joint. At that point, you better surrender your guns."
The same is true (or soon will be) if you're considering seeking treatment for PTSD related nightmares and anxiety...or any number of other categorized psych illnesses or disorders. Once it's documented and reported, even on a database, big brother will have or soon have access to it. Wait for the legislation.
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