Today is the day we celebrate Christophe Colomb. Lost in all the controversy is the superhuman feat he accomplished. He wasn't just taking on an ocean but centuries of thinking the world was flat.* Neil Degrasse Tyson - a really smart guy - discusses his achievement and how finding America was one of the most important events to ever happen to the human race.
He also discusses what an s.o.b. Columbus was. No surprise. It took an s.o.b. to pull off what he did.
Although celebrated by the Italians, not every Italian is so enamored with Christophe.
What would Columbus Day be without a cartoon?
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The dumb ass half educated young people have been taught that all human achievement is flawed and wicked if it doesn't meet their contemporary standard of political correctness. In the realm of politics and opinion they can pull down statues and memorials to men who professed and advanced hatred, racism, exploitation, and suffering...so be it. But among intelligent people there ought to be a recognition of scientific and cultural advancement even if the historic figures were not perfect or even humane under todays standard. It's the scientific advancement we want to commemorate, not the flaws of the man. As Tyson points out, Columbus was a real ass, a low life who made one of the greatest scientific achievements in history. There were millions of men who shared his racist and selfish view of the native populations and they should not be honored or celebrated for
it, but Columbus still had his high moment in the world of science. Fact.
It's fine for the history books or movies, but it seems like such a waste of a holiday. I have never met a single person in my entire life who actively celbrates it or is even mildly excited for its arrival and I certainly hope I don't meet anyone as triggered about it as 12:15 seems to be.
I assume that generations ago, when sailing a boat across the ocean seemed like an achivement, the holiday at least inspired exploration or scientific curiosity in the youth. These days, there are many other events and people who would much better serve that cause.
More to the point: "The dumb ass half educated young people have been taught that all human achievement is flawed and wicked if it doesn't"....appear to be fair, or illuminates their shortcomings - making them feel either insecure or that they should try harder.
It's as simple as that.
Too many divorced parents overcompensated by letting everything slide for their children, and expecting nothing from them, and telling them they're "unique". This was to soothe their own grief that they couldn't make their marriage work, which probably shouldn't have ever happened in the first place. The children and youth of today deserve answers from their idiot parents.
if 12:15 AM were thirty years younger, he'd be attaching a chain to Christopher's statue.
Just exactly what did Columbus Discover? Did he step on soil that is the current day US or was it Cuba or Bermuda?
Enjoy it while you can. It won't be "Columbus" Day much longer.
If the natives had walls and border control, well....
The pilgrims weren’t so friendly, eh?
it’s OK to tell both sides of a story. CC actively connected our land mass to Europe. Amazing. He also was an arse. That’s ok to say. Why do we worship historical figures? Why shouldn’t the whole story be told? It does not discount the achievement.
3:30.. Could you even manage to build a wooden ship and use the stars to navigate?... Doubt it
Human achievement in slaughtering the indigenous people he found on the land he discovered lol
GTFOOH
@9:04, if I watched a YouTube video that explained how I probably could, but why would I? It’s irrelevant today. I can just fly in a metal tube across the ocean instead and use a handheld computer or even a wrist watch that connects to satellites in space to navigate much more accurately.
My phone calendar says Oct 12 is Columbus Day as well as Indigenous People's Day. Never knew we had a holiday for a people who were already here. On another note is it me, or does Joe's head always look like it's ready to blow up.
The 16th and 17th century Vatican's approval of the slaughter of non Christians in the New World might have some connection with the condemning of Columbus and the Spanish and Portuguese conquerors who followed.
The Indians fought each other and took the land from other Indians. Its the way of nature. They just met s stronger force and lost like the people they slaughtered to get the land.
That’s the problem with today’s snowflake society. They judge the character of the person over the value of their accomplishment. Columbus was an ass for sure, but his discovery of the Americas for the countries in Western Europe directly lead to the rapid expansion of trade and economic benefits. Liberals love to point out it ignores the horrible things it lead to for Native American and Africans, and I do believe that should be taught too. But casting Columbus into purgatory actually harms history by making it incomplete, or worse nothing but another part of identity politics controlling the narrative. Pure propaganda.
Those Indian allies of Cortez were helping him fight the Aztecs just because they loved the white man so much.
I still don't understand why the crazy-ass marxists (that riot) in Portland,Oregon every night . . . tore down statues of Theodore Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln ?
"Those Indian allies of Cortez were helping him fight the Aztecs just because they loved the white man so much."
LOL
Great point Kingfish, but even well educated "Americans" have no clue about the Aztecs.
Sure they built spectacular pyramids . . . but they "enslaved" hundreds of surrounding tribes.
The Spanish conquistadors (even with their armor and rudimentary firearms/artillery) could have never conquered the Aztecs without the help of the other Native Tribes.
For the JFP crowd . . . think of the Republican Party convincing local Democrat groups to attack a Bennie Thompson fish fry in Bolton..
The other natives were tired of living under Marxist Aztec rule.
They still got screwed, but that's real history.
I would be more inclined to give credence to the criticisms of the "woke" concerning Columbus, or any other of our noted ancestors if the "woke" crowd had any noted accomplishments of their own. The people that have been acknowledged from our past had feet of clay as all humans do, even the so-called "woke" have their faults and failures. Regardless of their shortcomings, our noted ancestors overcame their humanity to do notable exploits. Where are the noted exploits of the "woke" crowd? From close observation, the "woke" are destroyers, not builders. The "woke" speak of the evils of Columbus with regards to his treatment of the natives but fail to note the evil of their own cancel culture. All the while slandering people, who cannot defend their reputations, in the process of destroying the work of others. These people are worthless.
featuring a historical event on JJ is proof of how many people are total idiots when it comes to history. european diseases, such as smallpox and measles , which native people had no resistance to, killed off more native peoples than everything else combined.
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