Wednesday, September 26, 2018


Hmmm........... what's wrong with this column in the Daily Mississippian?

Yours truly pointed out the incorrect information in an email that was sent to the editors ( as well as a message on Twitter.  If they didn't get the emails, then JJ is sorry.  

JJ redacted the name of the author because this being 2018, her name will live on forever in Googleland.   Her name can be easily found but JJ isn't going to post it.  The author wrote the column in good faith and let's face it, the column didn't say anything about Jackson potholes that hasn't been said on this website.  In other words, the author was right.  However, the editors don't escape blame because the column should have been corrected once the newspaper was notified about the erroneous information.  

Kingfish note: Oh, I know some will be tempted to use this post as an excuse to comment on the Meek controversy.  That drama has nothing to do with this post so such comments will not be allowed.


Anonymous said...

Why not just tell us what's wrong with the column? Not everyone follows this issue or cares to scrutinize an article to find the error.

Anonymous said...

Two problems - it was an open manhole and not a pothole that resulted in the fatality. Second, MDOT has nothing to do with Jackson’s city streets. That is on the city. Perhaps a city bill of rights for drivers?

Anonymous said...

The fact that nobody visits Jackson to go sightseeing?

The fact that the real underlying issue with the potholes is the deteriorating and leaking water system?

The fact that MDOT does not maintain all of Jackson’s roads?


Anonymous said...

It wasn’t a pothole. It was a MF’n manhole with a cover left off due laziness and incompetence. And I hope the city gets a royal goat fucking as a lesson. Let em issue bonds for that shit!!

Anonymous said...

Do they have manholes in Terry?

Anonymous said...

8:28. It was not a pothole. AND it was not a manhole that the cover was left off of - for any reason. If you want to bitch, at least bother to learn the facts.

I haven't bothered to read the DM article, basically because I don't care what they are writing about. I saw the ED of MDOT being quoted about Jackson city roads, so there was no relevance.

But reading your answer just shows how little you bother to pay attention to facts; instead just like to repeat whatever the worst story you might have read on some social media site and repeat it despite many other stories giving details that don't fit your narrative so you ignore them.

The manhole cover was there - it had been placed in the reconstruction project. The cast iron ring of the cover broke, probably due to a manufacturing defeat (but the reason it broke has yet to be determined by all the folks involved and will probably be investigated for a damn long time.) But because the ring broke, the manhole cover could flip to a vertical position, which evidently it did when the car tire hit it, causing the car and the cover to flip.

Your bullshit tale about it not having been placed has been shown by multiple stories - here, in other social media, and in the mainstream mass media - as being a fairy tale. The facts of the cover and ring are known; what is not known at least as far as what has been released is (1) what caused the ring to break, and (2) what caused the cover to flip.

But I'm sure you will continue your story because it is more fun to you to place the blame on someone, even in a situation as bad as this one was. That being the case, enjoy wallowing in your own crap.

Anonymous said...

8:49 is counsel for Yates Construction.

Anonymous said...

8:49 : The cover was not put on correctly. Accept it. The collar didn't move.

Anonymous said...

Not a lawyer for anyone. Not an employee of Yates. Hell if I were connected to them don't believe I would be admitting to having installed a defective ring.
Nice try, though. Come back when you have something better.

All I am is someone that has watched, read, and actually seen the site and been privy to the details. The broken ring was shown on at least one of the TV stations - day after the accident though, so it missed the sensational coverage with assumptions. With a broken ring, the cover could flip up and out. Impossible to do so otherwise. And with a broken ring (which is an undisputed fact) it WOULD flip if hit in the right spot by a small tire - which this was.

Don't know why that occurrence bothers some on here - doesn't change the fact that a young girl died. Yes it does make it somewhat more of a freakish accident, but actually not as strange as it seems on first blush. (Google manhole cover accidents).

Sorry to disappoint you - wish I was an employee of Yates, or counsel for them. Dan sure would have better things to be doing with my time rather than being on this site trying to talk reasonably with others who deal with fun assumptions.

And - does this have anything to do with KFs question?

Anonymous said...

Why is the student newspaper at Ole Miss editorializing about infrastructure in the city of Jackson.

Anonymous said...

@8:38 -

You asked "Do they have manholes in Terry?"

A manhole is a a way to access a public sewer system. Outhouses are not public facilities.

Please fill in the blanks on your own.

Anonymous said...

I still remember the day Franny died. Later that night on one of the three TV stations we have in Jackson. I saw the "lip" of the manhole cover in a City of Jackson employee's hand. It was in two pieces - not one piece as it should have been. I'm sure that one of the TV stations
has a digital footprint of that afternoon. Go back and look - there were two of the "lip" or support for the manhole cover!

Anonymous said...

Do you not believe that a 3,000 lb. car slamming into a manhole cover at 35-40 mph is not capable of breaking a "lip" of said manhole cover? Moron.

Anonymous said...

Why is the student newspaper at Ole Miss editorializing about infrastructure in the city of Jackson.

Because everybody is out to get Jackson.

You know, that grand right-wing and oh-so-white conspiracy that has Jacksonians so stymied they are rendered unable to do anything to fix Jackson itself.

Anonymous said...

2026, a 3000 pound car or any other size car can't ram into a manhole cover. The covers obviously lie flat on the surface - cars no matter their weight are not traveling perpendicular to thecpavemrnt.

The manhole cover was not broKen. It was the ring that supports the cover that was broken.

Because the ring was broken the cover was able to turn perpendicular to the pavement since nothing was there to support half the cover. Under that sotuation, the cover could - and did- flip the car

Get your details correct. Moron

Anonymous said...

If the manhole cover was properly in place, this incident took place!
However, if the manhole cover was not on the hole at all, the lip would more than likely not been damaged. Just ask anyone who has hit an manhole with no cover. I know of two individuals that have hit manhole without a cover 0 damaged their front end, but no damage to the manhole or cover! JACKASS!

Anonymous said...

The real reason is that the manhole cover wasn't certified.

Anonymous said...

So, the manhole cover wasn't certified, but 10:26 and others that continue this crazy narrative are certifiable?

Anonymous said...

Bottom line: Yates subsidiary's insurance AND the city's insurance are going to get the well-deserved royal goat fucking.

Anonymous said...

Leave the farm animals out of this.

Anonymous said...

Grabs popcorn... this is getting interesting.

Anonymous said...

One can hear a lot of things, whether true or not...what has been going around is that the cast iron riser ring placed on top of the permanent manhole was not secured. The riser ring raises the manhole lid height to the same as the new layer of asphalt. Since the riser ring wasnt secured and traffic had been going over it, either not bolted down, or welded in place, the movement allowed the ring to crack and spead open, allowing the manhole cover to fall down into the drain.

Anonymous said...

Pop Quiz Question: What do a broken manhole cover ring and a flipped vehicle have to do with a "major food company offering to help Jackson". Or vice versa. WTF?

Good Talent Is Hard To Find.. said...

I'm glad JJ shielded whatever child wrote that article. For her to write that Dominoes donated $5000 to pothole repair and recommended straighter, more narrow city streets to help it's delivery drivers is about as damned nutty as anything I've read lately. Assuming this was her first article and further assuming her retention on the journalistic staff was dependent on this column....she will be missed.

She might want to try her hand at a Blog though.

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