Wednesday, June 4, 2014

Who can vote?

Hinds County Republican Party Chairman Pete Perry just told JJ that anyone can vote in the runoff election if one takes place if they did not vote in the Democratic primary Didn't vote at all? Show up and vote on June 24.  Voted for Childers? Stay home.


Kingfish note: A guest on Gallo's radio show this morning stated that only those who voted in the Republican primary could vote in the runoff.  That statement is patently false and misleading, to say the least. Naturally Mr. Gallo repeated the statement later in his show.  He owes his listeners a correction.

Hmm..... does that mean Supertalk is trying to engage in voter suppression? Possible civil rights violations? 

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

Is there time to register for the runoff ?

Anonymous said...

Correction? Gallo don't do no stinkin' corrections.

NMissC said...

Perry is correct. There's some media out there suggesting that now the Democrats are cut out of the decision.

As a fact, most voters did not show up yesterday. Any of the no-shows can now wake up and participate except those that went to the D table yesterday. Anyone.

Anonymous said...

what about this voter ID thing? I was asked to show ID...The funny thing is in spite of the squealing and hand wringing by the black cockeye for the past 20 years on the subject the sun actually did rise this morning and uncle bennie won big....how can so many be so wrong on the voter ID issue and still show their faces?

Anonymous said...

Well...what will the Dems who knew it wasn't much of a contest gonna do?

Try to give their guy a chance or make sure we don't have a crazy person representing us in the Senate and going to vote for Thad?

What do you love most? Your political party or your State and Nation?

Anonymous said...

12:11, the voter registration deadline was in May.

12:22, call to dems to vote for Cochran is almost as good as the MS Link ad asking dems to vote for him.

NMissC said...

No time to register for the runoff (and, from memory, i think you have to be on the rolls at the first round to vote in the runoff, Thus if you'd registered ten days ago, you'd still not get to vote. But that's from memory)

Anonymous said...

KF, is there any way you can check and see how many affidavit ballots are out there? See speculation in some places, but I'd rather that info come from you because, well, you go to the source and find out.

NMiss said...

The circuit clerk of Lafayette County said to the Oxford Eagle (according to today's paper) that she had been told as of this morning there were 18,000 uncounted ballots out there statewide. Many won't be counted. I don't see how those are enough to change the outcome. Even if someone takes 55% (unlikely high) and 2/3 are counted (unlikely high) that swings the election by 600 votes, still too few to kick McD over 50% or swap places between McD and C (which would only be a symbolic point anyway).

Some number of them have to be those were someone forgot their ID; they have a WHOLE WEEK to go back and get their vote counted. This new procedure means that elections will be hanging out there for a week now! Strange but true.

Anonymous said...

I am not comfortable with the proposition that "many won't be counted."

bill said...

Why? If the vote is questionable enough to be cast by affidavit then there's usually a chance it wasn't a legal vote. I haven't seen any statistics for past elections to back up the assertion above, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a bunch of them thrown out.

Hang Your Chad Down Boy said...

There's a helluva lotta difference in 'thrown out' and 'not counted', Mr. Anderson. 'Not counted' means they were never considered. 'Thrown Out' means they were reviewed and ruled ineligible.

You continue to amaze me with your ignorance.

Anonymous said...

There are 18,000 absentee ballots. There were very few affidavit ballots. A good number of of those absentees are Dem ballots.

Most will be counted unless they were filled out incorrectly. Not sure if there are enough for one candidate to make a difference.

Anonymous said...

At Willie Morris, there were maybe 5 affidavit ballots (all of them had tried to straighten out their voting situation at the Circuit Clerk's office; I told them it would help if our circuit clerk were ALIVE!). There were maybe 27 absentee ballots. They were supposed to be evaluated after the voting was OVER and either accepted or rejected. The accepted ones were to be fed into the machine. I was left alone to close the GOP table. As I spent an hour working on those ballots, the six shrews working the democrat table (who had had 13 votes all day)closed down the machine so they could leave. I told them several times that the absentee ballots that were valid were supposed to go into the machine. To no avail. I just heard on the news that several voting machines in Hinds had not been closed down correctly. Bet that was one of them. The irony was that the shrews spent the ENTIRE DAY telling me how to do my job. Those women (and one man) were USELESS. Bet they all get paid. They probably "work" for Airwave as their day jobs.

Anonymous said...

I do not believe this information by Pete Perry to be exactly correct as to who can vote on June 24th.

Any Dem had the legal right to vote in the Republican Primary on June 03rd but only those Dems who did vote in the Republican primary can vote on June 24th. However this is a Republican run off which any Republican can vote in on June 24th. If an Independent chose to vote for a Republican on June 03rd, he or she may vote on June 24th too.

If any others have stated the above, I agree with you. I just didn't have time to read all comments.

Anonymous said...

@ 6:44 PM

It makes no difference if you consider yourself a Democrat, a Republican or an Independent. You don't declare your party when you register in this state. The voting rules are very simple. In primaries you vote for one party and one party only. If there's a runoff, you have to stick with that party. If you voted in the Democratic primary of course you cannot vote in the Republican runoff. If you did not vote in the primary, you can vote in the runoff. It hasn't nothing to do with your party affiliation. It's how you voted in the primary.

Anonymous said...

So how do they check that? Will the run off poll workers have the poll books the dems used this time as well as their own to look the voter up to see if he voted democrat before? (Both books contain ALL the voters in the precinct; in the GOP poll books the persons who voted GOP will be marked off, the dem books will contain check marks by the people who voted in the dem. primary)

NMissC said...

My experience with affidavit ballots:

The purging of the rolls means that a lot of folks who should be able to vote won't. Here's how that works: Did you get a voter registration card this spring? If something went wrong with the mails, or you moved within the same precinct but still are entitled to vote there, and the card came back to the circuit clerk, you've just been purged from the rolls.

Much else can go wrong, including lots of computer glitches. The rolls are largely put together using COBOL software (what's that? A sixties programming language) that is not well understood any more and not thought through well, with data entry by folks that are not well trained. Every time I've looked hard at it I have been worried by it. So voters fall through the cracks.

So you get this accumulation of folks not on the rolls who are forced to vote by affidavit because of glitches. Plus there are people who are sure they are in the right place but are not.

In places where the election commision acts in good faith there is a real effort to count votes BUT someone has to be coming forward with evidence to support counting the vote-- they do what they can, but it's usually not enough.

So for reasons that are understandable and reasons that involve institutional incompetence and reasons that involve voter failers, some votes don't get counted. And that's where the election commission acts in good faith. It's WAY WAY worse when that good faith assumption is not warranted. When I've seen that, all bets are off, and it's not uncommon.

Does your circuit clerk do a great job in handling the simple stuff? If not, then you probably have problems you don't know about getting votes counted.

Anonymous said...

@8:130-i was informed at poll worker training in Madison County that traditionally the parties swap poll books for a runoff to cross out the ones voting in the other party's primary.

Anonymous said...

Our circuit clerk is Barbara Dunn. She is so terrible that I've been told she chose to not get paid but draw her retirement AND still go to work. So if there is anyone in charge, I have no idea. I do know that getting an appellate record out of that place is STILL almost impossible.

Anonymous said...

§ 23-15-575. Participation in primary election

No person shall be eligible to participate in any primary election unless he intends to support the nominations made in the primary in which he participates.

When you ask for a primary ballot, you are declaring your intent to support that party's nominees.

Under precedents and AG opinions, this provision is not enforceable except in a runoff when anyone who voted in another party's primary has already declared an intent to support that party's nominees.

Anonymous said...

All McDaniel voters need to petition Cochran.

"If you will not DEBATE McDaniel and you win via Democrat votes June 24th, we will vote for Travis in November!

REPUBLICANS VOTE FOR CHILDERS and NOT THAD COCHRAN!



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