Friday, June 22, 2012

The new get out of jail card

Several inmates gave demonstrations at the Hinds County Detention Center on how to get out of a cell using........ a bedsheet. Here is it on video.


meople said...

We as a society must raise our standards for holding certain positions in the ranks of said society. Further we must raise pay to accomodate those standards. In laymen terms uneducated fools can not be held responsible for the escape of highly educated crooks.

bill said...

I think the problem is far deeper than poorly educated or trained guards. Someone touched on it in another thread, and although I'm not so sure it was a racial issue, jails should not necessarily be built by the low bidder. The main ingredient to keeping prisoners locked up is the facility, not the people, and this facility is failing to do its job. Facility problems are either the fault of the person who built the facility or the fault of the person who is charged with maintaining it. In this case I think there's plenty of blame for both, and the Sheriff and poor guards stuck with this self-described lemon sound like they're doing the best they can.

meople said...

Bill ill agree but does management (lewis vs Macmillan) not bear any responsibility... I dare to say the consequences may be different. Prisons are a reflection of society. There have been more riots and more escapes in six months than I can remember. I know news has never been more available than today but still I wonder. If there are no serious consequences in or out of jail. Well a form of the historic wild west is near.

I recall my adolescent years we were disciplined by strangers, spanked in school, suspended, expelled, kicked out of facilities. But everyone is scared of the ever looming lawsuit. SAD.

Anonymous said...

7:52, problem not with losest bidder but minority "setasides" The firm that was hired to design the jail has to sub out part of the design work to a minority group who did not to the work right but was paid. That was the way the entire jail construction process went.Money paid work not done.Requiring a minority firm is just a pay off and little work is ever done.Building a new jail is just a reason for some big money to change hands.

Shadowfax said...

No solutions are offered in any of the comments made thus far. I don't remember having these escapes under McMillan. Maybe they just weren't as frequent or maybe Kenny wasn't pushing that news to the front.

When was the last time somebody walked out of the Madison County jail?

If the damned place is as useless as a jail as 'they' say it is. Salvage what can be salvaged, bulldoze the rest and start over. Put Paul Barrett in charge of the damned place and move on. It shouldn't be a political football.

meople said...

impressed @ shadownails

Anonymous said...

Maintenance (or lack of) seems to be the main problem with this issue. It is my understanding this facility was built in the early to mid-nineties. If something breaks - you repair it! It appears that who ever was in charge dropped the ball in this area. These individuals need to be held accountable!

Anonymous said...

Supes voted to build a new jail which is going to cost the taxpayers megabucks. If the existing facility is as poorly designed and constructed as we are hearing, the architects and contractors really got off easy, and the supes who approved the settlement and signed off on the facility need to be held accountable.

Raze the jail. Build a new one on the Hwy 80 corridor in Jackson where Puckett is vacating as part of the Hwy 80 revitalization project

In the interim, erect a tent prison so the incarcerated can commune with nature and really feel the heat.

Shadowfax said...

1:24, either you are new to the metro or you've not paid attention for the last ten years. This jail has been a boondogle since it was built under the guise of minority contract status. Roof leaked, locks would not function, gates would not close, a/c ducts were accessible to criminals, toothpics could open some locks, lights blinked without cause and electrical malfunctions were rampant. This was in court for two years with no positive outcome for the taxpayer yet the minority subcontrators walked away able to buy a herd of dancing horses for the black rodeo. Should have been bulldozed before the minority contract checks cleared the bank.

KaptKangaroo said...

Why not just shackle them to the bed? I dont think they will get too far with a seven foot steel bed attached to their arm. Also, this would make them pretty easy to spot as an escapee.

KaptKangaroo said...

Why not just shackle them to the bed? I dont think they will get too far with a seven foot steel bed attached to their arm. Also, this would make them pretty easy to spot as an escapee.

Anonymous said...

11:19 how do you know Paul Barrett?

(The GREATEST sheriff ever)

Anonymous said...

Those that remember Sheriff J D Macadory might disagree.

Yeah he had his faults, but weekly prisoner escapes weren't one of them.

Forgive me, I just remembered that's ancient White Man history.

For the first time I agree w/S Fax .... you never hear about anyone walking out of the Madison County Jail.

Shadowfax said...

How do I know Paul Barrett? Who among us who has lived in Central Mississippi for forty or more years does not know of the legendary Paul Barrett. One of the toughest SOBs to ever wear the badge. Nobody F'd with Barrett without paying some price. He was a sheriff's sheriff, a man concerned for the safety of every resident of the county, not out for personal acclaim or gifts or appointments or favors for relatives. He's not too old and out of touch to whip this place into shape today. If he were black, he'd have been on Harvey's payroll years ago and Tyrome's payroll several months ago. He would not be the first ex-official from Vicksburg to ride in here and save the day for incompetents. The other was Walker.

Anonymous said...

Sheriff Paul L. Barrett will always be a legend in Warren County.

Love him or hate him, he maintained order .

I think some of his biggest headaches were caused by Doug Arp (the now retired Vicksburg PD Officer)

Arp is the guy who staged goofy stunts like sitting for a month in a kiddy pool with "McGruff -the crime Dog".

Anonymous said...

There have been multiple escapees from Madison prisoner clean up work program with in the last year. Just sayin.

Anonymous said...

" There have been multiple escapees from the Madison prisoner clean up work program
within the last year... just say'in, "

Interesting comment. Please provide examples.

BTW, "just say'in " is such a worn out little phrase.

I recommend that in the absence of documentation,
you should get back to work before the other JFP
Interns ban you from the Chick Ball .

Anonymous said...

Will this work "shit-for-brains"

Anonymous said...

And thanks for your pointless insight on certain phrased used via the internet ill be sure to note your absolute irrelevant opinion in my next posts on this blog.

Anonymous said...

Huh ?????

Anonymous said...

Calm down 4:39 & 4:58 ,

All of us will help you with the expenses
related to your heart attack or mental breakdown.

We've seen this happen to many
unpaid interns over the years.

Call it Conservative Compassion.

Anonymous said...

"Will this work "shit-for-brains" "

OK, that is ONE escapee, a year ago.

Re: the 2:45 post (also yours?) - do you know what the world "multiple" means? (hint - "one" is not the answer).

Kingfish said...

All right, cool it a little bit. Nice vigorous debate, some rubbin' and bumpin' but tone down the "____ for brains" type remarks.

Anonymous said...

I'll tell you what why don't you do some research... Or do they allow that at your law office.

Anonymous said...

A huge part of the problems with the jail can be put on Bennie Thompson's shoulders. As a Hinds Couty Supervisor, it was he who pushed to have it built in Raymond( his district), which was a horrible decision. He was also pushing for the minority set-asides, which resulted in huge design problems. Just more crooked dealings from Bennie.

Anonymous said...

The little "progressives" are starting to realize
that they may have been wrong from the start.

It's Damn embarrassing when in (2012) a
group of Wisconsin High School kids use their Spring Break to rebuild a house in Mississippi.

Oh Yeah, said house is in Bennie Thompson's
Congressional district.

The millionaire Congressman didn't even treat these
kids to one of his "world famous Bolton Fish Fry's ".

Anonymous said...

And I find humor in me being compared to a JFP intern after I supplied references to my comments... You know they don't do that over there. PAY ATTENTION

Anonymous said...

Huh ?????

Anonymous said...

I have to admit, KF, when I saw that video on the news, my jaw hit the floor. Believe I mumbled a sharp word or two. Unbelievable.

I would like to know which would be the less expensive route--some say tear down and rebuild, some say fix existing. Even with all the problems the current one has, to me it seems like it would be less expensive to fix the problems than to pay for tearing it down, pouring a new slab and pay for everything from the ground up.

But good glory, while they are figuring it out, cant somebody fix the dang locks?

Anonymous said...

The problem here is - a couple of supervisors want to build a new jail so they can do as their mentor did - get rich off the construction and the related bond deal. Bennie taught them how, now Graham and Stokes (would include Douggie, but he's too out of it to know what he's missing) want to share in this generation's boondoogle.

A new jail would cost in the neighborhood of $40million - plus or minus a rounding error and the amount you have to add depending on the minority set-aside percentage. Necessary repairs/renovations of this now 15 year old (plus/minus) structure - including years worth of deferred maintenance - is probably $5 to $7 million. Replace the locks, install new computer system, remove the coat hanger repair from the washing machine while installing a new one, replace torn out wiring and ceilings, etc. While at it, install protective walls around pod control centers, even though with new locks that should not remain a problem.

Despite Kenny's rants in the BOS meetings, the problem is not "the jail" but rather listening to Tyrone, it is (1) not enough deputies; (2) too low pay for deputies; (3) need for more training for deputies; and (4) broken locks. Seems like only one of these four is solved with "New County Jail" (Douggie's 'motion' to reconsider the vote). The other three are budget issues.

As to whether the maintenance is being done - a good investigative reporter should be able to determine this. Either the BOS has appropriated the money and the Sheriff is not spending it; or the Sheriff is requesting the repairs and the Administrator is not taking the required steps to get them done; or the Administrator is depending on the county maintenance department to do them and they are not responding.

Either way - quit playing monkey in the ring, while pointing fingers the other way. Get the required maintenance done before you waste multi-millions on Kenny's fantacy. Only problem is - with doing the maintenance, there's not as much money for Lft Graham to steal.

(Somebody quick - go to the SOS office and see if Airways has formed a new 'jail construction' company.)

Shadowfax said...

Turn Bert loose on it and it's resolved. Then he can retire with his britches hitched up.

Anonymous said...

Bert would probably either:

A. Be on the receiving end of another "ass whoop'n"

B. Have to again fight off the neighborhood pit bulls

C. Promise to take Tyrone & Kenny on his next " up
river" pontoon trip.

Anonymous said...

the best maintenance in the world is worthless if the inmates are 'allowed' to tear the place up. Who's running this joint? Lack of maintenance didnt cause that ceiling to be destroyed.

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