Friday, January 17, 2020

The Rising River

The Pearl River continues to rise.  Posted below are shots of the Pearl River at the Spillway Dam and Lefleur's Bluff. 










Here are some shots taken over at Lefleur's Bluff.






37 comments:

Anonymous said...

Sure looks wet.

Anonymous said...

I pray that my premonitions of catastrophe don't come true! God please have mercy on the sinners in Jackson!

Change the Flag and Fill the Potholes said...

What is the elevation difference between the reservoir level and the river level? It sure looks pretty close from the drone photos - is the spillway wide open?...

Anonymous said...

One Lake Project. One Lake Project. One Lake Project. One Lake Project. One Lake Project. One Lake Project. One Lake Project. One Lake Project. One Lake Project. One Lake Project. One Lake Project. One Lake Project.

San Antonio, Oklahoma City, Baton Rouge (BATON ROUGH FOR GOD'S SAKE).

Get it Done, People.

Anonymous said...

When all that water falls out, the crappie in the mule jail are going to be on FIRE!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

That’s what she said

Anonymous said...

2:42 it looks close, but I bet its close to 12-15' or more in elevation difference.

Anonymous said...

@2:47

Calling the "One Lake" project a flood control structure is about as ridiculous as I've ever seen. Blow that smoke somewhere else.

Anonymous said...

Edinburg dam

Anonymous said...

The weather seems to be getting crazier every year. Might as well go ahead and do what we can before it's too late.

Anonymous said...

Why not dig two lakes in all that vacant forest on either side of the river just south of the Spillway? Make them deep pools. Use the dirt to elevate the surrounding areas for development.

Whenever they are needed just up err n a second set of gates to let the water in.

These are the types of projects China spends money on instead of Urban Conflict Resolution, summer meals for urban children, and EBT.

Anonymous said...

If that dam breaks......

Anonymous said...

@ 2:47 It appears you are the one blowing smoke.
Please explain to us everyday folks why One Lake doesn’t reduce flooding?

Anonymous said...

If one should step on on a freshwater mussel in the Pearl River, for Gawd's sake don't try to eat it.

It ain't a Biloxi oyster.

Off topic I know . . . but only a public service announcement for the readers of JJ.

Anonymous said...

I am not a dam engineer but I can only see the One Lake helping with flood control by allowing the pool of the Rez to drop to extremely low levels in winter while still providing the downflow required to keep the river from drying up south of Hinds County.

Other than that, the One Lake would have water in places that would normally be uninhabited flood plain today. Literally the area currently flooded. If there is already water there, then how could it assist in flood control?

Anonymous said...

1979 “When The Levee Breaks” - Led Zeppelin on WZZQ 102.9 FM - Jackson mayor Dale Danks asks them to not play it anymore in the face of disaster. 1981 WZZQ leaves the airwaves. Coincidence? There was eight inches of rain that fell within the drainage system of the Pearl River in Northeastern Neshoba County. Nothing has changed in 40+ Years. Could it happen again? Yes, it could. There was to be a 16,000 + acre impoundment in Neshoba County that had been pushed through Congress by none other than John C. Stennis. It never happened. That was in 1972. Why wasn’t it built? Water could have been controlled from there, assisting RBR to control the amount of water in the Pearl below the present RBR dam and City of Jackson below.

Anonymous said...

The REZ isn’t for flood control and ONE LAKE won’t be for flood control. The people who stand to make millions off the property want you to think that, but it isn’t. It is economic development.

Anonymous said...

Is Noah available?

Anonymous said...

Doesn’t anyone have any damn sense. The Res is past it’s prime and probably holds less than a third of what it did when it was made due to sediment. And as for as rain, all you panty waists need to go back and look the flood of 79. That was bad. This is almost nothing. Al Gore is so happy all you liberal worry warts are coming unglued. Grow some balls.

Anonymous said...

Let’s don’t have none of that economic development. It will mess up the state. We gotta Keep the masses under control. Only a few of us are allowed by the old money to rule this state. Didn’t y’all know that?!!!! Don’t need no one having no money. Money buys power then we lose ours!!!!

Anonymous said...

A number of false comments above on JJ. Who should be surprised.

1. The RBR was not built for flood control, it was a project designed to provide drinking water for Jacskin and recreational purposes. It has an elevation difference of rougly 6 feet.

2. One Lake is entirely designed for flood control with an elevation difference of roughly 15 feet - designed to hold water during high rainfall seasons and control downriver flow during low (dry) seasons

3. The 'dry dam' prised by Senator Stenjis (the Shockee Dam) in Leake County would do nothing with the current situation - it was proposed to flood thousands of acres 'occasionally' during high rain seasons upstream but be barron during most of the year and most years, but have no effect on the metro area during periods when the heavy rains hit the metro area - therefore it never met the smell test except for those landowners in Leake County that Stenjis was trying to pay off by giving them a boondoggle gift

4. One Lake is totally for flood control, yet it provides a lot of positive economic development benefits along with its flood control aspects. Where the RBR has a fluctuation level of less than five feet, One Lake could fluctuate as much as 15 feet - so that in the dry summer and fall mnths it was lower, but still able to provide drinking water to Jackson, during the rainy winter and spring months it could hold back these excessive floodwaters. The idiot above that said One Lake provided no flood control benefits also probably tries to sell you the idea that he has run out of gas on the interstate and needs to get his blind mother home to Copiah County and would if you would only give him your spare change.

One Lake is totally designed to deal with flood control issues, which one of these days the so called 'leaders' of the Jackson area are going to have to address. In the meantime, take the advice of the idiotic advisors above, but go get you some sandbags to build a dam around your house.

Anonymous said...

" Jackson mayor Dale Danks "

Gawd, Danks was LIGHT YEARS ahead of baby chock.

And still is.

Anonymous said...

10:38
WRONG
One of the Reazons for the Rez is flood control. Read the dam Stennis report.
See what i did there?

Anonymous said...

I would cite the page number that refers to flood control but you morons should at least have to do that much work.

https://www.therez.ms.gov/Documents/Stennis%20Report%20-%20color.pdf

Anonymous said...

1141 - wrong. The res was not built for flood control, it was built to provide a water supply source for Jackson.

Its design does not allow for more than a five foot elevation difference.

Read the engineering report and the authorizing legislation.

And what the hell do you think Steins had to do with it anyway?

Anonymous said...

Watershed.....

A covering over the RBR and Pearl River to keep mo water from get'n in and filling them up.

Anonymous said...

One Lake project will NEVER happen. The feds offered a perfectly viable flood protection project (levees only) that they would help pay for, but local leadership wanted to push for a “gold plated” (I.e. One Lake Plan) plan that the feds would never be able to budget due to their Benefit-Cost Ratio rules. Regardless, the actual cost (not the unrealistic estimated being pitched) of the project alone will kill it and if that doesn't kill it, the environmental community would never let the One Lake project proceed. Oh well, as they say...”A bird in the hand...”

Anonymous said...

One Lake or Two Lakes are both designed for flood control with lots of commercial development subject to development codes which are too often not enforced. Bottom line all of the flooding is caused by attempting to develop and control the Pearl River Wstershed!

Anonymous said...

I live in Leake County near the Pearl River. It has been raining all day..it is now 1 p.m. and still raining-- and the creeks leading to the river are out of their banks and the Pearl is way out its banks and is flooding pasture land. It is so far out of its banks you can see it from Highway 16. At Edinburg there are cars under water and huge tracts of timber and pasture land are flooded adjacent to the river. The grounds were already saturated and this water has to go somewhere, meaning downstream.

Anonymous said...

A photo comparison of all the development from 1979 to 2019 along the Pearl would show those that built in those deserve to be underwater. You can't fix stupid.

Anonymous said...

2:18 Stupid as in every Republican and Democrat in Congress that continues to encourage floodplain development by subsidizing flood insurance. The private insurance market knows it's a losing bet but is more than happy to let the Feds insure that market. More houses means more insurance, more real estate commissions, more infrastructure sales, more everything. So what if it goes under water? The Feds will take care of it. Everyone living in a floodplain has been sold a bill of goods. Is anyone calling for the end of flood insurance for new developments? Not likely.

Anonymous said...

Did someone say timber?

Anonymous said...

As long as we’re asking why not go for three lakes?

Anonymous said...

Sigman with PRVWSD decides how much water flows downstream of the RBR, not god.

Anonymous said...

2:47......
Maybe one lake is more of a shelbyville thing?

Well, sir, there's nothing on earth
Like a genuine, bona fide
one lake
What'd I say?
One Lake!
What's it called?
One Lake!
That's right! One Lake

I hear those things are awfully wet
It even controls floods, you bet
Is there a chance that we are wrong?
Not on your life, because of this song
What about us brain-dead slobs?
You'll be given cushy jobs
Were you sent here by the Devil?
No, good sir, I'm on the level
The ring came off my pudding can
Take my pen knife, my good man
I swear it's Jackson's.......

Anonymous said...

For the price tag, I expect it to be built as a half lake.

Anonymous said...

I read most of the Stennis Institute report from Mississippi State. I believe they left out some details. It was originally planned to include some flood control but once the dam needed additional federal dollars to make this happen, the State decided to fund it alone. The reason being the State did not want the Federal government to control the inner workings (i.e., hence the surrounding development and 99 year leases, etc.)

The proof the dam is not constructed for flood control is evident on the original "As-built" Record Drawings of the structure. A flood control dam has a "key" in the bottom for stability between the original soil surface and the built-up dam. The Ross Barnett Reservoir does not contain this "key". Therefore, any attempt at trying to hold back a floodwater condition will only weaken the dam and cause it to fail.

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