I'm live-blogging the debate tonight. Yes, we all expect the President to come out swinging. Should be interesting and I'm not going to make any predictions. We do play the game for a reason. Fire away in the comments.
The big question tonight? Will someone ask the candidates if we are their children. Here we go. We who are about to die salute you.
Romney takes the kickoff. First question. 20 yr-old college student? Uh-oh. How can you reassure me I can get a job? Like ANY candidate can answer that question truthfully. I wouldn't even ask Obama that question. Ok, lets go. Romney spent too much time on college itself. Points out the unemployment and student loan debt problem. Romney keeps saying he will create jobs. "Has what it takes to bring" the jobs back. Doesn't say how. No specifics. I expect Obama to seize on this. Obama appears more focused than last time. Obama getting more specific. Tax code, helping Detroit, education, worker retraining, energy. Green energy? He went there again? Uh-oh, Crowley now adds her own. What about the long-term unemployed? Still no specifics on how to create jobs. Interesting line about bankruptcy. Risky but interesting. Now Obama says "just isn't true". "Different set of rules" for "folks at the top". Obama on the attack. Obama is on his A game right now and Romney better rise to the challenge.
Second question. Energy secretary comments about not lowering gas prices. Obama dodging it. Obama ignores part about gas prices and focuses on "green energy". Will Romney counterpunch? Will Romney point out fed's creation of money to fund deficit spending caused them to rise? Nice point about Obama attacking energy companies in Montana. Romney rallying nicely on oil, gas, and coal, especially coal. Hello Pennsylvania and West Virginia. No word about Keystone. No word about shutting down production in the Gulf but Obama would probably tie him to BP. Uh oh, Candy says "Mr. President let me move you to the gist of the question?" Obama blames increased demand. Romney, say something about cheaper dollars increasing prices. Damn. Obama hits Romney with shutting down coal plant as Governor. Romney getting specific on cuts in licenses. Obama won't answer. Candy asking more questions than the audience. Obama saying Romney will collapse the economy and lower prices? Oooooooook. Romney arguing with Candy. Next question. They want to squabble, Candy moves them on. Nice job on Candy's part.
Taxes. Always a nice topic. Romney touts his tax plan. One can almost hear Obama saying "What he doesn't tell you.." You know, $250,000 in New York City or California really isn't that much. Um, tax rates when Bill Clinton was president? Clinton cut capital gains tax rates. Was good for the economy. Tax credit for kids going to college? We are paying you to send your kids to school. No one will call it that but that is what it is. Obama is attacking Romney and saying "tax cuts for the rich". I expect Romney to hit hard on this issue. Romney now pointing out economic stats for last four years. "We don't have to live like this." Can Obama do anything besides attack Romney? Here goes Candy asking questions again. Um, is that her job? Oh well, can't attack the moderator unless its Jim Lehrer. Here comes Obama spouting $5 trillion tax cuts. Romney still looking at Obama with that half-grin as he did in the first debate as if he can't wait to swing back at him. Candy at it again. Suppose your numbers don't add up? How come she doesn't ask Obama a question about his numbers not adding up on his programs?
Gender equity. Draw. You can tell both candidates didn't want to spend much time on this issue. Contraception? Oooooooook. They both give good answers.
Bush question? Nice one. Romney pretty much avoided it, Obama tried to tie him to Bush but could have done a much better job. Weaker response from him than I expected. Job growth? Sigh. Like saying I've put $10 in your piggy bank but forget I took out $20 so I gave you $10.
Next: I voted for you but not so sure right now. Why should I vote for you? Softball. They both spar with their familiar points. Obama says he kept his promises. Romney comes off sober, pointing out economic stats over the last four years. Doesn't attack him directly "He's tried but...." Nice way to do it. Romney doing a nice job of framing "what the election is all about". Obama will respond to this at some point. Next question.
Damn, this one is pretty hot. Ok, if all illegal immigrants look like her (Not saying she is one or looks like one), I'll drive the bus bringing them over here. Immigration question. Romney says "no amnesty" and "employer verification" but says kids "should have a path". Obama's turn. Starts out with a similar answer. Nice answer by Obama "Thank of this as their country". Nice job of Obama tying Romney to Arizona law. Nice comeback by Romney stating Obama "should honor his promise". Now they are sparring over investments and pensions. This is a section where conservatives will think Romney did a great job although some will think he was too weak while liberals will cheer the President. Candy doing a nice job of moving them on.
Libya? Oh boy, HERE WE GO!!!! Ali-Frazier, 13th round. Obama "that is not how a commander in chief operates". Uh oh. Obama left himself open here. Can Romney take advantage of it? HUGE opening here. Romney says tragedy. Mitt: AN ACT OF WAR IS NOT A TRAGEDY!!! Romney is cautious here. Hitting him with Rice although its a jab. DAMN! Hits him with trip to Vegas. Clinton was in California for fund-raising when Somalia happened. Flew back immediately. Romney going soft on the President here. Should have hit harder on Libya. Candy brings up Hillary. If he stood in the Rose Garden and said we would find out what happened, then why did he and everyone else for several days blame a video instead of waiting for the facts. Oh.... Obama is really attacking here? Offensive? Oh wow. Romney HAS to hit back hard here. Candy is disgraceful here. Romney is shaky here. He is giving it away here. Edge to Obama here.
Keep AK-47's out of the hands of individuals? Nice, fair question. Yup they both give bland "I don't hate the second amendment" answers. Romney discussing unwed birthrate. Does he read JJ? Oh boy, Fast and Furious. Obama will say it started under Bush. Romney needs to be able to refute that one cuz its coming. Candy now jumping in again. Reminding him of his "assault weapons ban" he signed as Governor. Assault weapons are already illegal. Nice jab at Romney "he was before it before he was against it." Ouch. They agree on parents and schools. Obama reads JJ too. Nice. Obama needs to lie and say F&F started under Bush. Now we are arguing over who wants to hire more teacher. Candy trying to cut the President off.
Outsourcing. So far, this debate has been boring. Not like the last two debates. Romney now sounding like an expert on China. Romney picking a currency fight with China. How about picking a currency fight with the Fed. Not once has Romney tied Bernanke to Obama and the effect his zero interest policies have on the economy. Romney mentions regulations but fails to mention why companies go overseas (or to other states) because of regulations. Obama says corporate tax rate is too high and we should close loopholes, lower the rate etc. Um, he said that debating McCain four years ago. Romney doesn't mention that. Obama repeats the foreign tax rate jibe. Third glass of wine. Castle Rock Pinot Noir. Nice and smooth for what it is.
"What do you believe is the biggest misperception the American people have about you?" Romney gives his life history, what is important to him. Sounds sincere. Romney shifts from that to what he will do as President. Don't think he should've done that. Now on to Obama. Interesting. Obama tries to paint himself as a conservative. Nice and moderate. Sounds JUST like a speech made by Huey P. Long. Dead serious. Watched it last night. Nice tip to Romney as a person. NOW Obama uses the 47%. He's been waiting to use this line. Waving the bloody shirt. Grant would be proud. ;-) "Grandfather fought in WWII". Very effective line. Very.
I call it a draw. They both got their points in. Bases will be applauding their efforts. They both went at it. Romney won some rounds, Obama won some rounds. Obama got off the mat, if you are a Republican, Romney carried himself well even when he didn't win the points. No one brought up points made in the VP debate. As I said, I call it a draw.
Tuesday, October 16, 2012
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16 comments:
Let's do it!
This shit is boring... Someone tell me the last election that was decided by poplar vote and then name the one before that... That is why it is so important to concentrate on your state elected officials. Electoral votes decide presidential elections.
I swear he does not want to be re-elected.
I swear I do not want him re-elected!
There is nothing worse than someone telling you what someone else is gonna do... I hate to say it but I think reports tomorrow will show Obama won this debate.
Most awkward moment was the Libya "terror" situation. Timeline is confusing still. Rose Garden statement day after, moderator says transcript two weeks later was public, and we are just finding out tonight?
Saw on Twitter there was a pause during the statement. I'm with you on this, it is spiraling out of control.
Crowley personal performance hurt Obama with independents.
Jump ball. We think our guy won, they think their guy won. Frankly, it was Gene Kelly and Fred Astaire with all the dancing around the questions that were being asked, but that's to be expected because they've rehearsed all their canned responses and by God, they're going to get them in. Obama needed a decisive victory and didn't get it. The best part of the night was watching Michelle and Ann walk onto the stage at the end in the same dress.
But Ann's required half the material.
Undecided Voter:
Mr. President, how to we achieve income equality for women?
Obama:
We guarantee women government funded rubbers, birth control pills, IUDs and abortions.
Romney won debate - not that it matters. If you are undecided at this point, then you're in a coma. There has never been this much of a difference between candidates. If you can't pick a side at this point, then you might as well wait on one of those manafacturing jobs Obama will bring us - you'll need a college degree for it, btw - but he'll also pay for your college.
Grist for Kim Wade's mill.
Four years after Barack Obama was elected president, this is not exactly a "post-racial" America.
A new study from Washington University in St. Louis finds that under Obama, many black Americans feel less free than whites when it comes to political participation.
For example, only 45 percent of blacks said they believed the government would allow them to make a public speech, while 67 percent of whites believed they could, the study found.
The study found that while the election of Obama initially boosted feelings of political empowerment among black Americans, those sentiments significantly faded in the years that followed -- especially among conservative and religious blacks.
These two groups make up a large segment of the black population, with 56 percent of blacks identifying as "born again" and 39 percent of blacks as "somewhat conservative" according to the study.
It was a natural protest that arose because of the outrage over the video.
Jackson Free Press Co-Owner, Editor and Self-Anointed Best Practices Gadfly Donna Kay Ladd:
October 18th, 2012
"[J]ournalists should always factcheck every quote and statement. It is horrible that media outlets quote people telling lies."
*** NINE DAYS AFTER BENGHAZI TERRORIST ATTACK ***
JFP Staff Byline: September 19th, 2012.
JFP Staff: "U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens died—along with another three Americans—in an attack Tuesday where thousands stormed and burned the embassy in Benghazi in response to a video ridiculing the Muslim Prophet Muhammad. Reportedly, 32 others were wounded: 14 Americans and 18 Libyans."
When will Donna Fraud Ladd walk this JFP story back?
WHEN will Donna FRAUD Ladd walk this JFP story back?
WHEN will Donna FRAUD Ladd walk this JFP story back?
Wow. Simply Wow.
The JFP is a dishonorable outfit 12:18. Donna is so deep in the septic tank for Obama she lost the sensory ability to smell the effluent.
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