Monday, October 8, 2012

HUH?


I think I know what happened.  Here is the Gallup poll that is currently on its website:



Apparently Ms. Ladd in her eagerness to slam Romney (remember the 17 straight posts about Sarah Palin in 2008) took the USA headline and ran with it despite what others tried to tell her. What USA probably did was read the poll wrong when they reported it. Funny.



19 comments:

Anonymous said...

um, I don't understand why you are worried about what the JFP says anyhoo...nobody else does except a handful of misguided crackpots....

Anonymous said...

Typical and pathetic.

Kingfish said...

She's blaming Gannett but the point is, she stood by it when challenged and even when someone pointed out Gallup's own site, it didn't matter.

Anonymous said...

Actually, Donna's right. The 7-day average on the front page of the Gallup website shows Obama 50-Romney 45 for the period October 1-7. They also break it down specifically by day at http://www.gallup.com/poll/154559/US-Presidential-Election-Center.aspx, and it shows that the October 7 surveys showed Obama returning to the 50% mark. That keeps his average at 50%, and suggests that the post-debate swing to Romney may have been very temporary.

Kingfish said...

October 1,2,3 are before the debate.

Nice try.

Anonymous said...

Check Real Clear Politics: Today is the day the lines will cross. If RCP drops pre-debate polls, Romn will likely take the lead over O in the RCP avg.

KaptKangaroo said...

The big story here:
1. Chicago election marketing machine gains evaporated in a couple days.
2. Demographic shifts for Romney were huge (esp. among women).
3. Negative campaigning into the final days will only alienate voters.
4. Voters closer to election want results or a plan.

The current administration is in trouble and Chicago is freaking out.

What you are seeing here is an example of the attempts to skew the message. Regardless of it's impact, it is a peak under the tent of things to come.

Anonymous said...

Its dead even now. See http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Anonymous said...

Sorry, maybe I wasn't entirely clear. Gallup's rolling average for October 1-7 showed a return to Obama 50-45. The daily data from the October 7 calls (post-debate) was enough to force the 7-day rolling average back to 50-45 for the Oct 1-7 period. Here's the daily movement of the Gallup poll:

Oct 1: Obama 50-44 (covers Sep 25-Oct 1)
Oct 2: Obama 49-45 (covers Sep 26-Oct 2)
Oct 3: Obama 49-45 (covers Sep 27-Oct 3)
Oct 4: Obama 50-45 (covers Sep 28-Oct 4)
Oct 5: Obama 49-46 (covers Sep 29-Oct 5)
Oct 6: Obama 49-46 (covers Sep 30-Oct 6)
Oct 7: Obama 50-45 (covers Oct 1-7)

Mathematically, the daily calls for October 7 had to be positive for Obama in order to cause that improvement from the October 6 number. That's how averages work.

Both 7-day ranges include three pre-debate days (Oct 1-3) and three post-debate days (Oct 4-6); the only difference is that they dropped Sept. 30 and added Oct. 7 data. The only way that two-point Obama swing can happen is if October 7 was a BETTER polling day for Obama than Sept. 30.

It remains to be seen what happens in their October 8 average, but it's mathematically certain that Obama had a better polling day on October 7, which was post-debate.

Anonymous said...

DonnerKay Water Carriers at your service.

Anonymous said...

Here is Romney surrogate Chuck Todd saying the bounce is real (start at 2:15): http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/ns/msnbc_tv-morning_joe/#49341959.

Anonymous said...

9:31AM I do believe that is for "registered voters" vs. "likely voters." The reference in the CL story linked was using the "likely" voters story.

Nice try 'gain.

brjohn9 said...

THE HILL:

Mitt Romney has overtaken President Obama in a Public Policy Polling survey released on Tuesday.

Romney won 49 percent support from likely voters in the poll, compared to 47 percent for Obama.

It’s the first time all year Romney has led in the poll, which was conducted on behalf of the liberal Daily Kos website and the Service Employees International Union. Obama led 49-45 percent in the group’s previous poll, conducted before last week’s debate.

Anonymous said...

Gallup Poll Shows Five Percent Bounce For Romney After Presidential Debate
Posted: October 8, 2012

Gallup Poll Shows Five Percent Bounce

The Gallup Poll has updated its numbers with Romney benefiting greatly with a whopping five percent of additional registered voters saying that they now prefer Romney. Everyone including presidential candidate Romney’s most vocal critics agree that Romney performed much better in the first presidential debate for the 2012 elections.

Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/356213/gallup-poll-shows-five-percent-bounce-for-romney-after-presidential-debate/#JupSOJkWZBHaFcKL.99

Anonymous said...

IMO I think POTUS threw in the towel at the debate. I finished watching, thinking, he doesn't want to be reelected.

I'm sure I'm wrong, but that was my gut.

brjohn9 said...

Oops, rest easy as Barack's obsession with Big Bird was only a minor tangent ...

Sesame Street isn’t amused. Sesame Workshop, a nonprofit educational organization that produces and owns the show, issued a statement Tuesday saying “we do not endorse candidates or participate in political campaigns. We have approved no campaign ads, and as is our general practice, have requested that the ad be taken down.”

Now I have it on good authority that next week Barack is going to focus on exposing to America that Mitt Romney is really Judge Elihu Smails.

Shadowfax said...

Chuck Todd is not a Romney surrogate. Are you kidding me?

Anonymous said...

Yes, Shadow. Stated sarcastically to note to the DonnerKay water carrier that even those in the media who lean left are noting the bounce in the polls to Romney. It was meant to sound so absurd the sarcasm would apparent, but since it was an anonymous posting, I understand the confusion.

Delusional Donna: Dope without the Rope said...

DonnerKay wants to stay focus on substance. ROFLMAO.

Ladd 7:35 AM - 9 Oct 12

@DonnerKay

Talk substance, not polls.


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