Family and friends of Carly Gregg have created a website urging "justice" for young Gregg. Gregg is serving a sentence of life without parole after a jury convicted her of gunning down her mother in cold blood and shooting her stepfather. Link to website.
The website states on the home page:
It’s deeply unsettling to witness what happened to Carly Gregg—not just in that courtroom, but in the months before, when she was tried by media long before she ever faced a jury. A 15-year-old girl, clearly in psychological distress, was portrayed as cold, calculated, and evil—based largely on edited clips, surveillance footage, and out-of-context moments that told only one side of a much more painful story. Where was the public conversation about her mental health? About the system that failed her—repeatedly? You could see it in her eyes—she was begging for help in a silent language that too many adults ignored. I wonder how many jurors were truly equipped to understand dissociation, trauma, or how medication can affect a developing mind. I wonder how different this trial would have been with a jury more reflective of modern awareness around youth mental health.
There is not one word about the mother, of course. There are several bits posted that are not telling the whole truth:
Carly then spent 180 days in solitary confinement, 23 hours a day, at an adult facility unequipped for minors, during which she was exposed to adult inmates and subjected to verbal abuse—conditions that violated established protections for juvenile detainees..
Juveniles accused of serious violent crimes such as Gregg are almost never housed at the juvenile detention center. Ms. Gregg was not kept in solitary confinement. Federal law requires juveniles be kept separate from adults. Ask Hinds County how violating that law turned out for it. She was kept separate from the adults, nor was she exposed to them. What the website leaves out is the Sheriff's office provided a special table to Gregg so she could communicate with her friends and family. The call logs for the tablet show she communicated frequently with others. Hardly a picture of solitary confinement painted by her supporters.
Posted below are some more tidbits from the website.
Uh-huh. Neither the state nor the judge denied witnesses a chance to speak out for Carly at sentencing. The defense chose not to present witnesses supporting Carly. The defense chose not to even make an argument at sentencing (Shades of Bridget Todd's incompetence).
As for Gregg's mental health, the issue was discussed at length during trial. Gregg's lawyers tried to use the McNaughton defense and brought in an expert from Massachusetts to testify on her behalf. The claim Gregg was hearing "voices" and having other problems was hotly disputed by the prosecution as it presented its own experts.
There was no pre-sentencing report because the jury decides the sentence for murder and attempted murder.
Gregg appealed her sentence to the Mississippi Supreme Court. She is currently housed in CMCC in Rankin County with other juveniles.
Kingfish note: Sorry but there is no way you are getting around that video.
42 comments:
They know this will never be overturned, so they're cashing in.
I agree with you, KF. The girl had plenty of psychiatric medical attention before she murdered her mother and shot her stepfather. Some people are just plain old mentally ill. She is one of them. Her family and friends hired incompetent lawyers for her but now they bitch and moan about poor Carley's incarceration. Carley is residing in the best and most deserving place for her.
All that being said, they are certainly entitled to advocate for her.
Of course they do. Not begrudging them their right to do so one but.
There’s a fair chance that she will get a new trial on the ground of ineffectiveness of counsel. Among other strange decisions made, the advice given to reject the State’s plea offer was inexplicable given the strength of the State’s case. As for the insanity defense, the evidence would have had to be that on account of defect of reason she was incapable of knowing right from wrong. The defense is seldom successful, and none of the things she was supposedly suffering from would have prevented her from knowing right from wrong. In fact, her actions after the shootings rather clearly demonstrated that she did know,
Maybe they should go help some other kid, BEFORE she murders her mother. Criminals should stay in jail. Wasted effort, wasted cause.
I can see the Court ordering a re-sentencing.
Has her family forgotten she was offered a plea deal which would have released her as a still fairly young woman which she turned down?? And no, her family did not HIRE incompetent lawyers….an incompetent, attention seeking lawyer acquired the case by offering to handle it pro bono. They got exactly what they “paid” for, an incompetent lawyer who used manipulation and lies to get the case.
This is not the first family this incompetent lawyer has destroyed while using her bar license and legal knowledge to con people.
She will be out of jail in 10 years. Still nuts and likely breeding.
If I recall correctly, she was convicted of murder, rather than second degree murder. The only sentence available for murder is life imprisonment and nothing less than that. So to obtain a lesser sentence, such as 40 years for second degree murder, she would have to be convicted of second degree murder. So the conviction for murder will have to be vacated and she will have to be convicted of second degree murder, either in consequence of a plea of guilty or by verdict at trial. There is something the appellate courts do on occasion—rarely—where they vacate a conviction but affirm on a lesser included offense of the conviction. I don’t think that will happen in this case seeing that the evidence doesn’t really show second degree murder. It’s probably going to be a new trial or an affirmance of the murder conviction. If the latter then the case may well be taken up by the State Supreme Court.
It’s terrible that she’s clearly deranged and has thrown her life away, but notwithstanding any sympathy for her, it’s unsafe for the general public for her to ever be let out.
"...special table..."
Y'all she is clearly a little child and she can’t be held accountable. She was under the influence of demons. All she needs is to get right with Jesus. She should not be held past her 18th birthday. It makes me sick that a vulnerable, easily influenced, and manipulated child can be sentenced to life in prison!
I could have bought into a crazy defense until she told her friend all about it. Sometimes cases have bad facts and the accused is in fact guilty. Maybe the bigger question is why does the MS bar tolerate all of the clown law practiced by clowns? Maybe bar dues are an admission ticket to the MS legal circus.
The arguments in the website sound like they came straight from Bridget Todd.
She is not eligible for parole . . . ever!
If you kill in this manner, I'm never for a juvenile (or adult) getting less than a life sentence. I don't want such a person ever getting out to do it again or to procreate.
Maybe those very demons are driving you to write that. Isn’t one of the 10 Commandments say, thou shall not kill? Would her actions be considered killing?
"It’s deeply unsettling to witness what happened to" her mother. The correct word for the end of that sentence is Mother.
She deserves life. At least she gets three hots and a cot. Which is more than she deserves.
@1:14
Being demon possessed requires someone skilled in demonology and the seals and keys of Solomon. At that point you are beyond the 10 commandments. That’s the truth you don’t see in the movies about exorcisms. They have to break out the books they don’t like to talk about!
What about the mother? Shouldn't the murder of the mother have any bearing on the sentence of the murderer?
Carly was given a fair trial & sentence. She bragged to her friend, “Have you ever seen a dead person?” After calling her to come over & then trying to kill her stepfather. No bleeding heart would allow his girl to stay in their home with small children. She does not need resentencing. She needs the help she is currently getting.
whether they love lil carley or hate lil carley, the nicknars of rankin county love to relive this case. ................................................................its all they have to do.
Has anyone considered that she might simply be evil?
Probably did. Or just regurgitating what she filed or said in podcasts. The real story is how many mistakes she made or how arrogantly she blew off the Judge and his deadlines.
KF, After reading about her divorce, I'm surprised she was able to restrain herself as much as she did.
Reference Bridget Todd, her mode of operation is manipulation mixed with half-truths or outright lies. She thinks she is smarter than others and that no one will fact check her lies ( the main reason she got caught FALSIFYING evidence in her own divorce case). Why has she not been disbarred by the Mississippi bar?
She's a psychopath....not mentally ill. You do not know anything about what you said on the matter.
"Evil" cannot be objectively measured or determined. She is being held accountable for her behavior regardless of how it makes us cringe with fear like the sensational murder shows you obviously binge watch.
I’m not sure which of the two females in this story is the more psychotic.
I'd like to know why Bridget Todd hasn't been disbarred, too. And where is she now? Mississippi? Utah? She's no longer on the Utah website, hasn't been for a while and I never saw that she was admitted to practice in Utah.
just read ms carlys appeal brief to the ms supreme court............................it does not allege ineffective assistance of counsel.
i dont know. why dont you call up the bar and ask them?
Alternatively, relief is warranted under Strickland v. Washington,... According to Mississippi courts, the “standard of review for a claim of ineffective assistance involves a two-pronged inquiry: the defendant must demonstrate that his counsel's performance was deficient and that the deficiency prejudiced the defense of the case.” Ross v. State... The first prong takes into account whether an attorney’s actions or inactions were reasonable under all the circumstances, and considering whether such conduct was a result of trial strategy... No reasonable strategy supports allowing the prosecutor to (1) misstate parole consequences, (2) advance golden-rule/community-alarm hypotheticals, and (3) press for juvenile LWOP without objection or a request for curative instructions. Counsel also failed to insist on a true Miller hearing—or at minimum a continuance—to marshal mitigation witnesses and evidence tailored to the Miller factors. This performance fell below an objective standard of reasonableness, and there is a reasonable probability that, but for counsel’s errors, the result would have been different (at least life with parole or deferral to judge for term sentencing). The combination of an abbreviated, unprepared “hearing” and uncorrected, prohibited argument undermines confidence in the sentence and satisfies both Strickland prong...
this case introduced the 'term ineffective assistance of counsel ' to every computer troll and JJ lawyer out there.
if thats the case why wasn't that issue cited in the appeal brief ?
maybe there was no ineffective assistance .
this site has more trolls than a 100 mile bridge.
How many trolls do 100 mile bridges normally have?
I took a look at the appeal docket. Some crackpot named Jodi Bush-Stocker and others have sent letters directly to the Supreme Court Justices, arguing the case on behalf of Carly Gregg.
I guess that's lawyer-wannabes' version of amicus briefs these days. Maybe we should call them "citizen-attorneys."
And BTW, KF's comment at 7:04 is a direct quote from the Appellant's Brief, at pp. 43-44, where ineffective assistance of counsel is argued. It is also argued at pp. 22 and 37.
So whomever wrote this comment is either functionally-illiterate, or lying:
"just read ms carlys appeal brief to the ms supreme court............................it does not allege ineffective assistance of counsel."
I just noticed something in that video that I missed before. The last time the mother looked out the Venetian blinds into the yard there was a look of trepidation on her face. She feared that kid.
I sure wish people knew how to use whomever/whoever.
3:21: That's what you take away from all this?
I wish you would look up the word "pedantic," and see if it applies to you.
I believe the last thing Carly Gregg really wants is justice.
If what she gets is justice, she's screwed.
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