Tuesday, October 29, 2019

1984 Arrives

Crime cameras are in Jackson.  WJTV reported:



Let's see, Mayor won't say anything about a do-nothing D.A., won't take on the judges, appoints judges who give $100,000 bonds to accused killers, but instead wants to snoop on the citizenry and have gun control.  Can you imagine the uproar if the Sovereignty Commission had placed these cameras in South Jackson today?  Make no mistake, JPD arrests the suspects.  The problem is the D.A. and judges turn them loose or give them light sentences.  The cameras do absolutely nothing to solve that problem but it gives the kiddies at City Hall some new toys. 


34 comments:

Anonymous said...

Kingfish, I understand you are mad about the Zoo, but this was coming from the state. Your boy Phil wanted to give the money for this, just remember that.

Anonymous said...

Disagree. There's no expectation to privacy in a public place. Policing is policing whether it's electronic or boots on the ground. It's cheaper than human policing. It's reliable in that it is a constant presence and eliminates the dependence on witness accounts. It's also a deterrent. They should have deployed this along time ago.

Anonymous said...

Wow, this just gets better and better. Even privately owned cameras are an assault on freedom, since police can subpoena these records if need be. Colorado is looking better and better!

Anonymous said...

This is great- we will be able to watch all those out on bond, probation and parole.

Anonymous said...

I'd like to see the SOPs, privacy and retention policies that govern the use of these cameras, will they also be collecting license plate data? These should be public documents.

You can't just hang a bunch of cameras around town and call it a real-time crime prevention tactic without some sort of acceptable use policy, etc.

Waitin' on you chief...

Waitin' on you mayor...

Anonymous said...

Just a matter of time before thugs begin shooting out the cameras - the flashing lights on the cameras give away their location.

Anonymous said...

I'm all for cameras in public places. No complaints from me at all.

Anonymous said...

At least the cameras have blue lights on top so the criminal element which intersections to avoid. Brilliant.

Anonymous said...

Pretty dumb to put flashing blue lights on them.

Anonymous said...

Hey 11:34, take a look at the concept of "practical obscurity." The feed from these cameras can be put through license plate readers and facial recognition algorithms in real time. Someone from the government will soon know exactly where you are and who you are with at all times (Apple, Google, Facebook and Amazon already do).

Justice for Surveillance said...

How long until the criminals start stealing these?

PittPanther said...

Tell me again why these cameras are ok, but red light cameras were removed from the state?

Anonymous said...

Great Britain seems not to have suffered the lost of freedom by having had cameras for decades.

If you want to discourage crime and catch perps, it's a pretty good investigative tools.

As for me, I'm not planning on doing anything in public that can't be filmed.

I suspect if Tater wanted them all over Mississippi, y'all would be all for it.

Anonymous said...

1:23 PM, good point. If there is any copper in these cameras, they will be gone faster than you can tie your doo-rag.

Bill Dees said...

@11:34 is right.One cannot have any reasonable expectation of privacy in a public space.

Anonymous said...

2:04 PM !!! Are you kidding me??? That is the most surveilled state ever!! And just wait ... it only takes someone with bad intentions to misuse the power of total camera coverage.

Anonymous said...

Agreed, what are you mofo,s doing out in public you need to be worried about? Bunch of pervs...I agree with the dude who said the blinking lights are problematic.

Anonymous said...

What does the sovereignty commission and south Jackson have to do with anything?

That’s the most disjointed comparison I’ve ever heard.

The sovereignty commission was hardly an elected body and its sole goal was to exclude blacks from any advancement.

Are you suggesting the city of Jackson is an unelected body in place to keep black people from advancing?

You are clearly not from this state.

Cynical Sam said...

They must be very effective as there haven't been any murders, bank robberies, zombie invasions, UFOs, nor terrorist bombings in Jacktown in at least 24 hours.

Anonymous said...

Pitt - red light cameras observed traffic infractions and generated citations; these cameras will largely be used for reactive activities such as identifying suspects, etc., and when paired with shotspotter technology might be able to assist police in identifying offenders involved in shootings.

Did you honestly think these cameras can recognize a hand-to-hand drug transaction, identify the folks involved and spit out a warrant? C'mon you gotta be smarter than that...or maybe not.

Anonymous said...

I don't do anything wrong so I don't care if I'm surveilled 24/7. And if my TV watches me and listens to my conversations, why should I care.

America is truly going down the tube when people relinquish their constitutional rights under the guise of security.

But then only conspiracy theorists argue otherwise, right.

Anonymous said...

Why include a scene from Star Wars with no relevance to 1984?

You should post a scene from 1984. Like the scenes where Winston is censoring the truth by "memory hole" to fit the narrative used by the Ministry of Truth to pacify and control the workers.

The telescreens were the method used to surveil he population. And those exist today as our smart phones.

Anonymous said...

1:39, the red light cameras were removed because some of them were placed around downtown Jackson while the legislature was in session, and some of the legislators were photographed running a red light with someone in the car with them that wasn't their legal significant other.

Digbart Gabbart said...

A few months back I was using a laptop and suddenly got a flash message telling me the camera at the top of the screen had been activated. WTF! I put a band-aid over it and a sack over my head. It's farking ridiculous for you gourd-heads to suggest "If you ain't doin' nuttin' you gots nothin to worry 'bout".

The same is true of one-way glass, even in public spaces. Whatever the government can do to make the proletariat uncomfortable, government will do. It serves to keep us in line and reminded of who's in control.

You think facial an voice recognition and TSA screening are invasive? One day all of our DNA will be on file at every government level. We won't even be able to rip a silent fart in an elevator without our name being flashed on a screen above the door for all to see.

Anonymous said...

I don't know what the fuss is all about. This will be implemented and operated by the city of Jackson unless they contract it out to a company that knows what it's doing. The city of Jackson can't even figure out how to get paid for water, so I'm pretty sure this will be over their heads.

Anonymous said...

The city will probably get to add 50+ jobs... Supervisor(s),GED techs to sit and watch many monitors, (X 3 shifts a day)... Maintenance folks to scrape bird poop off the cameras...

Sees Insanity On Parade.. said...

Jackson will have some legislator sponsor a private bill in hopes that the state will pay for this fruitcake idea. And there's a symposium in Brussels next August during which these very pieces of equipment will be featured, with break-out sessions for new users. Travel arrangements anyone?

Orange Striped Police Cars For Higher Visibility.. said...

What We Have Heaaah Is Failyuh - to police the city. While it seems as if the town has had Twenty police chiefs in the past thirty years, what we're seeing is that not a single mayor in those many years has a clue as to how to provide us all with any semblance of police protection.

So, what we wind up with is perpetual dysfunction at the PD while the administration(s) continues to throw cockamamie wet rags at the wall hoping something might stick.

Anonymous said...

9:51 pm I agree that there are privacy issues related to cameras and electronic advances that should concern us.
However, there is a vast amount of space between hysterical and clueless.
I would have thought you would have already covered your computer camera until you use it. Unplug Alexa or your dot until you use it. Your cell phone has security options that you can turn on and off until you use them.
I would wish that government and the law would be ahead of modernity instead of behind the curve, but alas, like you, too many people stop learning the minute their formal education ends. And, some rely foolishly on media for "education" without ever verifying the reliability or bias of their sources of information.
But, then , like good little sheep, most of you just follow your herd without question.

Anonymous said...

Starkville has cameras I think just like this with the blinking lights on them. They are up and running right now. Really gets your attention when driving by.

Kingfish said...

Don't use any of the voice activated crap. Location service is turned off on phone unless I actually need to use it. Of course, that doesn't matter as much as it used to because your phone pings away on cell towers, allowing law enforcement to see exactly where you are if it gets the phone records.

Anonymous said...

10:28 That's just it, why alert you with a blinking light? ...So you can slide your tec9 down between your legs as you drive by? The "element" ain't dumb to some things. The blinking light part of it is just doesn't make sense.

Take This.. said...

@10:24...I had no reason to cover my little camera since I've never activated nor used it in the first place. It was alarming to learn that 'someone else' could activate it. Glad I wasn't buck nekkid, or maybe I should have been, like you.

I don't use or have Alexa or a dot. By the way, I've never stopped learning. For example, just now, I learned what an arrogant, yet anonymous Gump you are. A fairly decent vocabulary mixed with arrogance and anonymity is a disastrous cocktail.

Anonymous said...

Two years ago the high mayor of Madison rolled out a city requirement for every commercial business to add video cameras to the outside of their building. Can we get an update on how that's going?

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