Monday, February 18, 2019

Is the Maroon Going Red & Blue?

Published in yesterday's Clarion-Ledger:

Do NOT blame the reporter as he had no control over the headline.  Such decisions are apparently made at a design studio out of state.  It is a safe bet to assume the reporter was horrified. 


Anonymous said...

Another Clarion fail, how many we have to bear week by week!

Bill Dees said...

It would have been even funnier if, when Cohen dropped the drapes on the 2 statues, they were statues of Jake Gibbs and Don Kessinger.

Anonymous said...

The Ole Miss/MSU snafu is much to do about nothing. The are all bunch of bear sharks at the Ledger. Always been that way. We know what they are talking about. Theres only one D1 college in the state with a baseball program worth talking about. They were just throwing shade to down play the opening weekend festivities.

What about the editorial cartoon about the southern Baptist sex abuse? That's a little much. Sam Hall needs to answer for these gaffs.

Anonymous said...

Tyler Horka was the reporter. He is not responsible.

The problem is there is no accountability or leadership. Sam Hall didn't address the situation publicly until about 1:00 PM. He should have been addressing it immediately (probably by 7:00 AM). That is what leaders do.

According to Mr. Hall: "I've already communicated with our design studio and asked that they do whatever it takes to make sure this kind of mistake never happens again".

Mr. Hall's response should have been: "I've already communicated with our design studio that they will no longer be our design studio. We have terminated any relationship with them effective immediately".

The bottom line is that the CL is losing readership because they suck, there is no accountability, they have an agenda, and people want real news from hard working reporters. The "internet is taking readers" is just their excuse. Before the internet existed, they basically had a monopoly. So they could suck and still get readers. Once competition popped up (such as Kingfish), the folks that suck lose business.

Anonymous said...

Ole Miss wished they had statues to unveil.

Anonymous said...

Another issue is the feature photo on the front page of the sports section is of Parker Caracci pitching and pondering his pro-prospects.

MSU opened a $65M stadium expansion and celebrated the two best players to ever come out of the state. The CL had no photos and botched the headline.

This isn't about OM vs State. The headline error and the poorly chosen photo error are about being careless and insulting a large segment of your customer base. Of course we have the national media inferring that Trump supporters are ignorant racists. The media insults large portions of their customers and then wonder why revenues are down.

The media blames their demise on the internet, but many of the media injuries are self-inflicted.

Anonymous said...

Like most out of state northerners who do not follow the SEC the designers are probably surprised that there is more than one university in Mississippi. Ole Miss and Miss. State must be the same school. Right? It's Mississippi.
Happens all the time. It really does.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if they, the Ole Miss baseball fans, poured beer on their heads to celebrate this victory? #WAOM #HYDR #Family #Allin #DB's

Anonymous said...

10:06 - You must not be familiar with the perennial program down at Hattiesburg.

And what about that sex abuse cartoon depicting Baptist churches? I guess he meant to say Catholic.

Anonymous said...

The Clarion Ledger need to roll over and die! No Metro section and it takes 48 hours for them to print a news item. In short, today’s paper is 2 days ago news!

Anonymous said...

Sorry 10:12. Sam Hall can't fire the design studio. It is a Gannett facility in Phoenix that handles a bunch of the chain's newspapers. They've got rank on ole Sam.

Anonymous said...

My understanding is the offices close at 5:00 PM. Anything that happens after 5:00 is reported 2 days later. I’m not sure They even have a sports editor. If they don’t up grade their E edition I don’t see how they can survive. What little reporting that’s done is very poorly written. Makes you sad to see another institution go down. On the bright side look at all the trees we will save.

Anonymous said...

@10:56 AMEN. When I lived in Northern California I constantly had to explain to my fellow sports bar patrons that Ole Miss was the University of Miss. and Miss. State was a different school. Even after you tell them they still want to look it up. Jeez.

Anonymous said...

@11:45 you are probably correct. And that is why they are failing. The internet isn't killing newspapers. Healthy competition is killing newspapers. The internet allowed the competition, and the newspapers don't know how to compete, be accountable, produce a good product, etc. When you have competition, you better tighten your ass up and perform or you will lose in the marketplace.

The newspaper industry was, and still is, full of people who are entitled and lazy, like government workers. When competition came around (mostly from the internet), they got exposed as such.

I used to get the Clarion Ledger delivered daily. One time back in the late 1990's I had some delivery issues. I bumped into Rick Cleveland and mentioned it to him. He said "that isn't my department". I cancelled my subscription the next day. What Rick should have done is said "that's not my department but give me your name and phone number and I will pass it along to the correct department and they will address your issues". The point is that Rick (who is a fine writer) really didn't give a rat's ass about keeping the customer. And I've run businesses all my life. IT IS ALWAYS ABOUT THE CUSTOMER! Without the customer, you don't have a business. But entitled folks like Rick doesn't care about the customer.

Anonymous said...

the only people on earth who know the difference between Miss State and ole Miss are the residents of Mississippi.
If you travel out of state, they think it is one school.

Kingfish said...

Silly me, when I hear Michigan State, I think Wolverines. Once thought Roll Tide referred to Auburn.

Anonymous said...

For those of you questioning the cartoon about sex abuse in the Baptist church, here's one of probably hundreds of articles from last week:

Yes, there is a sex abuse problem in the Baptist church as well as the Catholic church.

Anonymous said...

If you are a State fan and you have a subscription to this fake bullshit liberal rag of a newspaper, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM! Cancel and put them out of their misery. Sam Hall can go back to sacking groceries at Jitney, cause he isn't smart enough to code.

Anonymous said...

Anyone who keeps up with college baseball knows who they were talking about.

Anonymous said...

Dear 1:08 Rick was right, if anyone could see how the C-L worked in the good old days you would get what he means. I had I had to attend the 4PM daily meeting that covered the following;

How did the paper sell the day before. (my only input)

What would be the headline the next day. (my need to know)

What story went above the fold how would the paper look. (my need to know)

These expensive high paid writers and department heads would drive you crazy trying to prove who was smarter and knew more than the other.

Even with all these people in total control and in house on Congress St stuff went wrong. Just imagine someone out of state that has no idea about Mississippi

Rick knew the circulation department especially home delivery was a cluster. Remember when you paid the carrier had their phone # and usually gave them a Christmas gift for good service. That all ended when the C-L took all that away from the carriers and paid them by the piece. Money lost by carriers was significant. After that home delivery became a cluster and so on and so on.

Anonymous said...

To make matters worse - the plaque MSU unveiled for Palmeiro said his nickname was "Lighting"? Apparently it should be Lightning. Is State going to make a new plaque, or just hope nobody else notices?

Anonymous said...

Print is dead. There are some papers in very large markets that are hanging on and doing a decent job of journalism, but Jackson (MS, for that matter) is not big enough for a paper to survive. Gannett has slashed costs beyond the point at which they can deliver a viable product in this market.

The door is open for someone to create a compelling online product to compete with the CL online. Perhaps that is what Mississippi Today is attempting to do?

So...knock yourself out.

Anonymous said...

T-Bob Hebert (@TBob53)
2/16/19, 1:32 PM
Real talk, if I was rich enough to afford a sick Dudy Noble Luxury Condo like that, I too would want to break it in with some opening weekend voyeurism #HailState (⁦‪@RivsHughey‬⁩ your people is freaky)

Anonymous said...

Sam Hall "go back to" sacking groceries? Hell no - that'd be a promotion. He might have to go back to his old job as Director of the State Democrat Party. He keeps up his creds there, making sure that anything printed in the paper about politics protects his Dem candidates, even when he has to depend on Josh to feed him stories to hurt Tater.

Anonymous said...

MSU screws up pretty badly too on the plaque. It happens

Anonymous said...

Really not surprised!
They get a lot of things wrong!
Not worth subscribing to anymore.

Anonymous said...

It is the fault of the local people at the newspaper and Sam Hall made sure it was when he wrote an apology the last time there was a major screw up with the school names. On May 23rd of 2016 he made the statement that "Checks are now in place so that this won't happen again." If I could include a snapshot of the quote, I would but ALL Bulldogs remember that major screw up dealing with our baseball team. Liar, liar and it was done on purpose no matter what all of you say. Sam is a disgrace to the publishing industry and his Ole Miss paper is failing more and more each passing day thanks to the fact that most Bulldogs don't subscribe to that rag anymore. Haters gonna hate but in the end they will be no more.

Anonymous said...

@7:42 understands it. The Clarion Ledger assured us previously that checks were in place. They lied and checks were not in place. It is incompetence. That is why they are losing business. It is incompetence.

Anonymous said...

The Ledger is a bunch of Bear Sharks. Been this way. After the first few gaff's a lot of Bulldog's canceled their subscription, the Ledger has been downhill ever since. Yet another reason this is #ourstate.

For some good laughs, follow Bearion-Ledger on twitter.

Anonymous said...

Yes, February 18, 2019 at 1:13 PM and KF at 1:15. Point is, this is a MISSISSIPPI newspaper reporting on MISSISSIPPI teams. It IS ultimately Sam Hall's fault - if my name is out there as editor, I'd be living up to it. It is his responsibility to look over the final edition before it goes to print. That place is vacant at 5pm. Too bad if anything newsworthy happens afterwards. The Gannetts of the world are what is killing the newspaper - Firing all the local reports and columnists (Robt St. John is the latest to go), AND taking the USA section out of the paper, raising your rate and telling you to read it online? They should just print a USA Today and keep our local cartoonist and columnists in one local section!

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