Jackson Jambalaya

The least cost path is Southpointe. Cap Towers (11% occupancy) hasn't "cratered".

If the landlord has to pay ad valorem taxes, he is going to pass this expense to the tenant, DOR.

What you keep overlooking is the fact that all the women working for the tax department will insist on nearby shopping opportunities, proximity of eateries and ease of egress from the area in the evening. And since Harvey does not run this 'employment office', he has zero interest.

4:51, check how much of that occupancy has been paid for by the State of MS. First Katrina space. then contractors for the state.

Not necessarily 'against' Southpointe, but that doesn't cover the error of your comment.

WTF are you saying 4:51? Make sense if you are going to comment. Sheesh.

Sen. Blount's bill won't get to the floor of the House. Bank on it. DOA.

5:27. Representative Gunn's bill won't get to the floor of the Senate. Bank on it. DOA.

Do the people of Clinton realize that Gunn selling that building to the state is gonna eat their asses up in lost taxes?

LMC is already "done" 5:53. Reappraisal will eat it alive = empty.

Great point 5:53. In my real estate world, when I am in a "lose-lose" situation, and am gonna lose my shirt if i close the deal, guess what? They can not match the Landmark deal w/o losing by winning. Shaking my head violently here.

Yo Breck!!! Circumstances have changed? Like the 1 mm commissions you and Ted will receive if DOR goes to Clinton? Or the fact that the Landmark Center is about half the sales price it was last year when Haley Barbour and C and W selected it? And Lordy wasn't you boss TED chair of DJP last year. What is up with that?

Who is Breck? Who is TED?

5:27. Representative Gunn's bill won't get to the floor of the Senate. Bank on it. DOA.

Good news, really. Mississippi can buy LMC for $3.7 million next year.

TD has KILLED compared to BA.

TD has a bunch of listings and some over leveraged property. Careful who you put on a pedestal.

When did Blount become the fiscal voice of reason? He is making the House Republicans look bad.

Remember when the "Talk Show Host" spent weeks on end hammering Buster on the radio because he dared to make a buck?

THE CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG

6:38, Blount didn't.

You haters are getting your asses kicked over here.

Really 6:31 PM? WE, all of US, should be concerned about a stakeholder and risktaker versus an employee?

Nothing like NE JXN inherited success. LMAO.

You haters are getting your asses kicked over here.

Thanks for exposing your intelligence. Really. Thanks.

7:31. Still getting your home bound non-employed ass kicked BTW.

WHERE (again) is the GD TEA PARTY? Kim Wade99 you talk all this shit. BACK IT UP! Is you silence b/c
This is a as you say "negro" problem? STEP the eff up or go away!

Big, BIG diff between Entrepreneur and employee.

Sorry, hot sandwiches don't count.

Want to take this labor dispute public Mr. Employee?

What is the situation with the Highland Colony property KF. is it leased or sold as well?

Sure go for it.

Lease only. There is no bill to purchase the site.

Yo Breck! Talk about that 1 mm in commissions yada yada yada.....think SP....NOT WHO YOU THINK THIS IS...Too funny!

Well if it wins we KNOW there is home cooking.

You have the Lamptons/Ergon behind one proposal, Mr. Speed/DJP and that crew behind one, and Duckworth, the Speakah, and some others behind Worldcomm.

There is going to be homecooking no matter what. Its quit interesting to watch actually.

Breck who dang it? Who is this Breck guy?

DUCKWORTH??? Doesn't he be a BIG DOG downtown? I am a simple Hinds County Raymond guy. Is he not a downtown type guy?

KF I think it sucks. Sorry.

Breck Hines of Duckworth Realty.

Duckworth is not a BIG DOG anywhere. You see his signs because he has lease listings, not ownership.....as he would allow you to believe.

KF are you sure the option to lease is not on the table re: Southpark? I read a story in the CL that referred to either, I thought, a few days ago. Are you sure?

One thing KF does not seem to recognize is that the legislature can actually do anything it wants to. Everything flows. Everything changes or can change. Sell language can be changed to lease language with a simple amendment.

As slick as Duckworth is and as sharp as his lobbiest Clifford Thompson is, don't think for a minute that they can't pull a rabbit out of a hat. Ergon has also gotten one of the most powerful, respected (feared) lobby group in the state in Capitol Resources.

Hired guns for a business decision. Doesn't pass the smell test.

KF, it doesn't take a bill in the legislature to purchase - any of these or other properties - as long as it is done while legislature is not in session. So Ergon DTI could be purchased as well as could Landmark, Southpoint, or the existing building without any of this legislation. All this is power plays, and moves by the lobbyists, just as many of these comments are probably being made by the lobbyists.

So, 5:32, a person shouldn't put signs up when they have property available for lease?

Well, there are not one , but two studies now that select Landmark as the best choice and neither look at how occupancy would boost the business of existing restaurants and shops and attract more businesses to fill the needs of the influx of people.

But, of course, whoever can buy the most legislators wins. God forbid any of them should do what is best for the State rather than what is best for themselves.

And, for certain, too many people are so twisted they want to see the city administration fail so badly that it's ok with them for our beautiful Capitol city to pay the price.

I think that is known as " cutting off your nose to spite your face".

You mean they can actually change bills after they are introduced? Damn, wish I had known that before I had written this post. Enlighten me some more on this legislative process as I don't know much about it. Thanks.

City of Clinton has called a press conference for 10:30 today to showboat the Southpark building. Mayor/aldermaen yada yada. This is not about Clinton, Ridgeland or downtown. It is about what is BEST for the taxpayers on MS.

Not about downtown? ROFLMAO Take your act on the road. You are FUNNY.

What is 10:04 talking about? 9:53 makes sense to me????

http://www.msnewsnow.com/story/21138557/city-leaders-want-to-dept-or-revenue-to-stay-in-town

"I think the discussion of a cost is simply a red herring because those who advocate moving it somewhere else are certainly going to have to pay a higher cost as well," said Gunn.

Classic...Let's not get bogged down in the economics and try to make informed decisions.

True. One thing left out is we have come a long way from spending $50 million plus $22 million in interest costs on a new building.

Regardless of which site is chosen, we are coming out way ahead since we didn't listen to Ed Morgan and Dean Kirby.

You certainly can't say that the downtown cult has EVER gotten bogged down in economics or informed opinions.

Ssssshhhhhhh the lobbyist are listening...

After 100+ posts on real estate and state government offices one would think land-lording to be the principal occupation around here. Problem is the only office renters are temp agencies and the state.

What the hell are you talking about 10:52. I rent one and am neither. If you think everyone 'owns' their office, you're nuts.

That is true about Baton Rouge but since I know something about the area, allow me to point out something. It would be a nightmare to spread the buildings out over several parishes as is done here thanks to the traffic. I-10 from downtown to Ascension at 2:00 or worse, I-12 from downtown to Livingston Parish, ugh. Nightmare. You also don't want to put them on the other side of the river. Every time that bridge is shut down, its another nightmare. Business leaders of BR studies Austin over ten years ago and made a commitment to adopt some of the concepts that worked for Austin. Creating a downtown district was one of them. Of course, there are two things that helped. One is the building of the Shaw Center. That helped a great deal. The other one is you have LSU next to downtown. Yes, we have 30,000 or more college students in the Jackson area but if we had them at one university, think of the impact. People actually want to live around LSU. Thus the downtown concept has something Mr. Speed and others promote: housetops. Housetops bring business even if the housetops are condos. However, I daresay, there is not a bunch of nice homes between JSU and downtown.

The topic has strayed from consolidating gov't offices (so they can function better) to forming a 'downtown business complex'. I have an idea: List the names of any two state government department heads who favor moving everybody together in central jackson. The ones who are located downtown are itching to get out and the ones who are not downtown would not go back for anything.

You mean one size doesn't fit all Kingfish? Say it ain't so.

6:44. Ed Morgan and Delbert Hosemann.

Phil Bryant and Tate Reeves.

I should have said 'appointed'. Elected officials don't fall into what we're talking about here, which is agency heads.

No agency heads, agency officials, state officials (other than a few with a control-complex) or department heads favor consolidation or moving all employees into Jackson. Only those leasing space, renting apartments, running restaurants and denying crime are in favor.

5:50 do you ever chill? Ever?

Who cares what agency heads want? They want big offices and accommodations. How about the tax payer SF?

Obviously, from reading through these posts, 'the taxpayer' has no clue how these agencies work independent of each other with no need to be centralized. If you think otherwise, please post a brief list of things that run better when agencies are co-located. (don't count lunch)

Rootin' for Pelahatchie, Clinton, Madison, Brandon, Flora, Gluckstadt.

6:22 do YOU ever chill? Ever?