Jackson Jambalaya

Here's to stonewalling. Hope they keep it up.

Public record or not, IT AIN'T NONE OF YOURS (or anybody else's) business who has a STATE ISSUED CCW permit.
Why don't you do something worthwhile and list registered sex offenders?

I think Warren left of the PS, which should have said, "So, sue us!" Then Kingfish could waste more of his time (and money) suing the DPS for something that will take so long to work its way through the process that the law will indeed change by then.

What did you intend to do with the information if you had gotten it?

(ironically, my robot word is stopme)

Good for them. It should have never been publicly available anyway.

Since you apparently believe that all government data should be public, I assume you won't have a problem posting the following:

1. The tag numbers of all vehicles that you own.

2. The information from your drivers license.

3. Your birth certificate.

4. A copy of last year's tax return.

Just because a government entity needs some information on a private citizen to implement particular laws doesn't mean it should be publicly available.

I could understand your ire if they refused to provide a list of individuals convicted of a crime, but I really can't figure out what your agenda was with this one.

I had one for years and didn't renew last time, but what's the big deal? If you have one, it's a public record, people. Don't like it? Then either a) don't carry or b) (you fill in the blank).

So if you and DPS are correct, why do we need a new law? Are Baker and Longwitz pandering?

My Lord man, why don't y'all catch a clue around here. KF explained that he only filed the request in order to see how the state government bozos would respond. I am sure that he, like myself, and most commenting around here, feels as though the state should have an actual law forbidding the release of the names and addresses of concealed carry permit holders. We all saw the fiasco in NY recently when some newspaper up there printed the names in that state and they made public private individuals information, including police officers, Judges, prosecutors, teachers, etc., for the bad folks to find. Not to mention the criminal element being able to know where to break-in to try and steal a gun. The reasoning behind DPS's response is actually UNBELIEVABLE, even here in 3rd world Mississippi!!!

Good one KF!!! Obviously no one but 6:30pm got the memo. I PROTEST I PROTEST...Oh wait, i didnt read the fine print...I AGREE I AGREE!!! to funny!!!

6:30, you are "close" to being correct. No, we don't need a law keeping these public records closed.

What we don't need is a law requiring you to have a permit to carry. If you have the right to own a firearm, which you do, then why do you need to pay a fee to the state to get a permit to let you carry it with you?

Longwitz and Baker are pandering - and many of the folks posting on here are falling in line. They ought not be complaining about records being made public - which right now they are - they ought to be complaining about the legislature requiring you to get a permit in the first place, and giving this information to the government.

Why do we need a new law? Are Baker and Longwitz pandering?

Because other states have interpreted the rules regarding public information differently, and while those currently responsible may not feel it's anyone's business who has a CCW permit, they may be replaced in the future by some who feel differently.

I still support the Longwitz/Baker bills because it provides an explicit legal framework, rather than hoping that the DPS doesn't decide to follow the lead of other states.

We need to know who has a firearm permits are since someone who undergoes a full background check,fingerprinting and training cannot be trusted to own a gun which may decide to go on a rampage. After all only law abiding citizens own guns.

7:17 -- I'm sympathetic to your argument, and I understand your point, but this is the battle line we are currently fighting. Yes, I know 4 states allow concealed carry without a permit.

The (slight) advantage of having a permit system is that it allows us reciprocity with other states that have permit systems. A Vermont resident may carry legally in his own state without a permit, but he has no reciprocity with other states.

I'll worry about fighting the no-permit battle when we get there.

You've sadly exposed KF many of your readers as not only incapable of understanding the point of your exercise but also too dense to comprehend your good intentions.

As the old adage warns that the good comes with the bad unfortunately with the outstanding success of JJ has come a bunch of dumbshits posting here.

Hang in there. Those with an ability to discern applaud your efforts.

It was a nice letter, at least.

But you redacted your own name and address?

Longwitz and Baker are not pandering. They are fixing a shitty law.
But, DPS shouldn't have written that letter.

9:14:

Only if I intended on publishing the names is it hypocrisy.

Agree or disagree with the empty suit's bill, Warren Strain's letter is a piece of work..

A bill is not a law. Maybe Strain should be forced to watch Schoolhouse Rock...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyeJ55o3El0

6:30 posted this: "My Lord man, why don't y'all catch a clue around here. KF explained that he only filed the request in order to see how the state government bozos would respond."

While I'm sure that might have been his intent, I don't find that stated in the opening remarks. If KF 'explained that', where can I find this explanation? I'm often accused of not being able to read, and sometimes maybe I'm guilty. This may be one of those times, but, for the life of me, I don't see any such explanation from Kingfish. Or are we expected to read the Fish Man's mind as to his intentions?

Baker and the Nazi are the worst kind of panderers. They take advantage of people of lower intelligence - not pointing any fingers. But if you think real hard, harder than you do on most days, maybe you'll figure it out.

5:30, Go back to bed. You are showing your ass.

Consistent with conversations dating back to the publishing of gun owner in NY, KF set out to clearly test the waters. To think otherwise is to lay down with the likes of those who tend not to read, think critically, or pay attention.

SFX are YOU paying attention???

I would hope there will be some exceptions to releasing names.

I would hope, for example, if a person is threatened.or about to be arrested, law enforcement can know if the person making the threat or to be arrested, has a concealed weapon or if there is a weapon in a home where they are making a domestic violence call.

I'm trying to figure out how to respond to the courageous poster at 5:30 AM without using the word pussy because I don't like to be vulgar. Can anyone help me? Bill Billingsley

I guess I'm not thinking hard enough but who is the Nazi?

The best thing to do Bill is not respond at all. The surest way to discourage their participation is to ignore them.

Kapt, I think that long time readers understand that KF is the good guy here but when he doesn't explain himself in the most plain language possible -- and I'm not saying he should -- then his actions are not fully understood by the recent refugees who have arrived here.

Kingfish says:
the reason is because the law is going to change.

That's not accurate. As I read the letter it states that privacy concerns were the reason. The blurb about the law changing comes after use of the word "Moreover." As in "as a further matter" or "besides" or "in addition", etc.

The letter does not state that the law changing as a reason for denial of the request.

As a conceal carry permit holder, a practicing concealed carry citizen, I'm quite happy with the letter.

I'm guessing some here are too young to remember when they published, in the Clarion Ledger, new permit holders all the time.

I would hope, for example, if a person is threatened.or about to be arrested, law enforcement can know if the person making the threat or to be arrested, has a concealed weapon or if there is a weapon in a home where they are making a domestic violence call.

The information discussed is being withheld from the public, not from the law enforcement community. When you are stopped by an officer, before he approaches your window, he is aware that one has a concealed carry permit.

With that said, law enforcement has no right to know whether one has weapons in your home. As a U.S. and Mississippi citizen, you have a right to bear arms and law enforcement assumes that every citizen utilizes that right.

pusillanimous moron comes to mind

How can an officer know anything but who the vehicle is registered to before he approaches your window?

because your DL and CCP are linked to your vehicle registration

outstanding warrants, unpaid water bills and credit score for that matter. your sexual proclivities, name of your dog, contents of your sewer pipe, and the pH of your lawn are all available as well

I will not stand for the police to know the pH of my lawn!

Mr. Kingfish, you are so hypocritical! You redact your name and address from the letter but want to post the names of everyone else. I will refrain, for the time being, from putting your real identity on the Internet.

I have no intention of publishing their names and said so in an earlier comment. However, when they serve up this slop for an answer, which is wrong by the way, then I can and will call them out on it.

Of course, is there a need for Longwitz's and Baker's bill if the law prohibits disclosure as stated by DPS?

12:08
You must be relatively new here. Only a blind man, or a complete moron, doesn't know what Kingfish's real name is. Your threat to "refrain from the time being" is laughable.

I know who I am.

I am The Batman.

Usually, but sometimes the Joker.

10:17, before a cop approaches your window, he does not know who is driving the car. If he does not know who is driving the car, he cannot know whether they have a concealed carry permit.

So, those stupid ole cops just call in the tag number and get info on the driver for no reason whatsoever, huh.

they be some of the foolish sons u guns. be calling and askin and not even knowing who be drivin an all

Looks like one of the harpies above has a bunched panties problem KF. They still don't get it.

Who cares who has a permit? Wait until the feds pass the mandatory background check, then ATF will have an inventory of your private arms.

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