Jackson Jambalaya

Been running the non-ethanol for almost 2 years now in 2 vehicles. Have purchased only 12 gallons of 10% ethanol gas total during that time. Easily 10-15% improvement in MPG. You can find the pure gas all over the USofA.

Jackson Ice on Jefferson street has non ethanol in all three levels. So does Valerio on Lake Harbor and Old Canton Road. Macs gas has it but I think its only in the lowest octane level.

Agreed. I heard on the radio this week that refiners now depend on ethanol to get the octane level high enough. Without it the octane level would be so low that cars wouldn't run. They can't easily switch to using no ethanol. People could starve and we'd still have to use corn for ethanol.

The ethanol doesn't really negatively affect your auto if you run a tank of gas in a week or so. It's leaving it in your small engines that destroys them and costs you a ton in the long run. Chain saws, lawn mowers, outboard engines, generators, weed eaters...all those things you might not regularly use. Unless you run that ethanol through an engine within 30 days it turns to crap and eats your parts. I'm no mechanic but after spending hundreds on my generator and three outboards in the last four years I learned my lesson and took the mechanics' advice. Non-ethanol gas is all over the metro including Deerfield,north of Madison and Tommy's Trading Post and the gas station on the Madison Co side of the rez on 43.

I don't agree with you most of the time, but am in total accord with you here.

It's a litmus test. Will Congress kill this industry, which is so obviously misconceived and damaging? If not, then I "tremble for my country." We have government of the rich and the civil servants, as someone pointed out this week. Well, not quite yet, but we're well on the way. O tempora, O mores!

As I said Shadow, your car still runs at lower HP and mpg

It really doesn't matter that much on mileage and doesn't hurt a modern car at all, but if you have a car that is more than 10 years old, it will eat up the catalytic converters and damage the fuel system. If you have a boat, atv, or similar device that isn't used often, use pure gas. I had the aluminum tap to my fuel tank in my boat corrode from ethanol and it broke off in some strong surf, leaving me stranded in the gulf.

E10 averages between 7% and 20% reduction in fuel economy.

Ethanol produces about 75% of the energy gasoline produces.

As I did NOT say, Kingfish, YOU have no clue about horsepower or miles per gallon. Who gives a rats ass about miles per gallon or how the engine runs if you have it in the shop all the damned time?

KF, have you asked Senators Cochran and Wicker about their position on these ethanol mandates - or, are they owned by the Lamptons/Ergon like Trent Lott was?

Kingfish is correct. Ethanol is higher octane but lower energy density. An engine could be tuned to produce as much power on ethanol as gasoline, or as much mileage on ethanol as gasoline, but not both. In one place or the other (and typically, both), you just aren't getting as much energy density as 100% gasoline.

On the other hand, people building high-performance forced-induction (turbocharged or supercharged) vehicles love ethanol (particular E85 when it can be found). The high octane rating of E85 means that you can turn the boost way up with a much lower risk of detonation -- big, safe power. And gas mileage isn't much of a concern to that crowd.