Sunday, July 1, 2012

Facebook login a good idea?

Kaptain Kangaroo wrote this little epistle on the dangers of using Facebook logins on other websites:

We have all heard about the dangers and privacy concerns on Facebook. Yes, even criminals in jail have Facebook pages.

However, with all the privacy controls, one can pretty much “lock-down” his profile and avoid unwanted snooping. You can protect your intimate data on Facebook and avoid publically publishing your personal data, opinions, photos, or pictures.

In other words, when on Facebook.com, you have a great deal of control in an environment that is fairly harmless. Now, think a little bit differently.

The trend out there is to link your Facebook profile to your activities outside of Facebook.“Offsite [of Facebook]” you are asked to use your Facebook account to log into almost every site these days. Some maintain it helps to make sure your identity is who you say you are, some claim it helps to integrate their site with your Facebook profile, and finally some, not naming names, wish to rid the earth of trolls.

This is exactly the kind of situation that you want to avoid. It is dangerous on many levels.

First and most likely, you will use your username (real name) and your password you use for Facebook. Not a big deal, unless you consider how many “off-Facebook-sites” now have your login credentials. This opens you up to immense privacy control issues.

Secondly, your Facebook information is now open to sites you must trust; you assume their security is tight. If you think every site uses NSA encryption to protect their site, think again. Many sites never change their login id from “admin”. Any breach of any site you provide your Facebook credentials with is now an open window into every site associated with your Facebook account; it is a cascading event.

Finally, let’s take a logical step forward from here, your accounts linked to your Facebook account, somewhere, somehow, contain enough personal information, passwords, usernames, etc. to snoop around your bank accounts, your credit accounts, your online anything accounts. Then there are the cellphone numbers. How many people post their cellphone numbers on their Facebook pages?

Using your Facebook ID to become a member of a site is risky and dangerous. If you must sign up for a site using a username and ID, DO NOT use your Facebook ID and password, create a new/unique account. Avoid linking your personal information with every site you join and if they don’t offer a way to create a unique user identity. Drop them. In the end, the risks of your privacy are too great to leave it in the hands of those who would not respect your privacy by denying you the opportunity to safeguard your personal information and identity.

17 comments:

Ironghost said...

Or, like half of the CL commentators, just make a fake facebook page.

KaptKangaroo said...

It is the only way to secure yourself in this beautiful mess we call the Internets.

Shadowfax said...

I fail to see how a facebook profile and login can be linked somehow to a bank account. Are you sure the sky is falling?

Anonymous said...

Butt Head said: "The Great Corn Hool-lee-O" is on facebook".

Anonymous said...

This is a blog. If people want to sign their names let them. If they want to be anonomous then that is okay too. I'm for anonimity. I posted something on an Ole Miss message board that the a few people didn't like. They thought they had me ID'ed and tried to get some poor guy fired. I know a guy who actually did get fired after he was correctly ID'ed. The silly thing is these "flames" offended only a few and they were documented facts quoting John Vaught. Yeah, yeah, we all know that Johnny Vaught wasn't loyal to the rebs.

KaptKangaroo said...

SFX - why not share your real name then?

KaptKangaroo said...

Let me see.... I am going to assume you actually read the post sfx. I have your name, can guess you email, and I know your dogs name now. Oh isn't that your security question for retrieving your password across the Internet.

Shadowfax said...

yada yada. Still, at the end of the day, there is no way to gain access to personal or banking information by knowing a facebook name, real or fake. I didn't realize anybody did their banking on facebook or would include their bank routing and account numbers in their facebook profile. But, I guess a few of you dumbasses might. PS: I don't own a dog but I have one horse and two renters.

Anonymous said...

Good post, Kapt.

Shadowfax said...

Yet it's still alarmist with no backup provided. Kaptain has failed to show any relationship between a Facebook account, posting to blogsites using that account and personal/private or confidential information held by the participant either on Facebook or otherwise.

Nobody puts confidential information on Facebook profiles and nobody includes bank records in any media accessibly by or through Facebook. Nor does Gannett have access to Facebook profile pages or passwords. When a site requires you list your email address and a password, they are not asking for your email account password. They are asking for a password you want to enroll at THAT site for future use. If you list your email password, it's at your own risk.

If I'm inaccurate, perhaps the Kangaroo will provide other discussion for our education. Otherwise, he's only lobbed a smoke-bomb under the bathroom stall wall.

AnonymousPrime said...

I would suggest reading this primer on oAuth, which is what FB (and Google) use to authenticate with 3rd party sites.

http://lifehacker.com/5918086/understanding-oauth-what-happens-when-you-log-into-a-site-with-google-twitter-or-facebook

In short, it explains how using an oAuth service to login to 3rd party sites does not expose your login credentials to theft.

Anonymous said...

All this paranoia and they are still logging in. Just throw your damn computer away.

Anonymous said...

Having over a decade of experience with ecommerce over the Internet; kapt hasn't scratched the surface, although his concern is well founded.

KaptKangaroo said...

For those who claim to think they know it all, maybe take the time to read what was written. Think LinkedIn breach, then you can read this: Facebook Breeach

KaptKangaroo said...

Shadowflop has yet again refuted the knowledge by providing no insight other than, "it's not true, waaaaaaa, I'm telling you, waaaaa, look at me!"

Anonymous said...

First and most likely, you will use your username (real name) and your password you use for Facebook.

Only idiots use their real names on Facebook and only numbskull dumbshits assume that everyone on Facebook is using their real name.

Anonymous said...

Your point?



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