Jackson Ward 1 Councilman Quentin Whitwell proposed an ordinance permitting public access gates in Jackson. The proposed ordinance (posted below) will allow Jackson residents to apply to the city for approval to install a public access gate. The appropriate departments must approve or deny the request within thirty days. If the request is denied, the reasons for the denial must be stated in writing. Approvals will be forwarded to the city council for final ratification. Denials may be appealed to the city council as well.
The ordinance also specifies who shall pay for the gate: "The parties requesting the public access gate shall agree to to assume all costs and responsibility for planning, installation, and maintenance of the public access gate, including repair or replacement if the public access gate malfunctions, becomes inoperable, or is damaged.
Mr. Whitwell said in an email to JJ "I am introducing this resolution because public safety is the most important issue in Jackson. We do not want to allow for potential criminal activity to fester. We want to be pro-active and we want to send a message that although streets are public, roads are not to be used to scope out potential criminal activity. Jackson is a great place to live and we are going to protect the property values of those people who choose to live here. Other counties and cities in the surrounding area have them. So should we. Authorizing public access gates is a great compromise that addresses the concerns of both sides of the issue. I hope to see my colleagues work with me to adopt this ordinance"
Hopefully the City Council will approve this measure regardless of Mayor Harvey Johnson's wishes. Northeast Jackson residents were frustrated in numerous attempts to obtain public access gates for their neighborhoods as the city denied all requests. Mr. Whitwell told this correspondent the city's position was they were not allowed since there was no law permitting their installation and use.
57 comments:
Another band-aid that doesn't treat the illness.
Quentin Whitwell is flat out racist. How he can't see that this crosses the line is beyond me.
I mean, 'trying to keep a criminal element out' is a racist concept, right? Q said so himself about the Sandridge ad. But here, Whitwell is actually tryng to physically divide people. This is shameful and racist.
I wonder what his client, Bill Luckett, would think.
Spot on J. Kev. Obviously Whitwell speaks out of both sides of his uh,...mouth.
Please help those of us who don't understand how an inanimate object like a gate can be defined as a racist act. I haven't read the ordinance, but are you required to be white to enter the gate?
J.Kev...'cuse me, but aren't you the racist to assume all criminals, vandals , and unwelcomed solicitors/visitors are black?
Is everyone with a fence around their property racist as well?
J. Kev is dead on. Exeactly what I thought.
Its about discouraging crimes of opportunity. The gates don't keep anyone out, it just encourages them to go somewhere else to make an easy score or find something else to do.
Nice reach for the racism card....Seems to be nothing more than an attempt to stir the pot. Otherwise, leave your car unlocked, put your cell phone on the dash, laptop on the seat and go park it on the curb.
A lot of apartment complexes with a majority of black tenants are gated. So how could anybody think this is a black/white issue?
Whitwell: "Other counties and cities in the surrounding area have them."
Wink, wink. The white flight neighborhoods in Madison and Rankin counties have them. Shocking but not surprising this say-anything politician is self-destructing so quickly.
You nailed it J. Kev. Whitwell's message is no different than Sandridge's. Now we will see what the progressives at the JFP are really made of. They claim they'll 'call out' anybody. Let's see if Ladd walks her talk. Let's see how tasty they find the words now from this self-exalted "tell-it-like-it-is politician".
i like quentin.. so far. he has brought up issues that pertain to his precicnt and said it like it is and i wish this ordinance would pass.... but why on earth does quentin think this will pass.. imagine what is being said back and forth between chok-away, kenneff and harvey say when they are behind closed doors.. they say people are taught to hate... i can only imagine what chok-away teaches to his people behind closed doors
Communities everywhere are putting in "Public Access" gates... why not have them in Jackson. Maybe they would encourage some residents to stay instead of bolting to Madison and Rankin where most communities have them.
The State Legislature even passed "local-private" legislation this year allowing the Madison County Board of Supervisors to approve "Public Access" gates in the non-municipal areas of the County.
Why not approve everything that can improve the safety and welfare of the residents? I think all races want safe environments to live in!
The State AG has many opinions showing that municipalities can approve gates, stop signs, speed humps, etc., when they improve the general safety and welfare.
It is a different story for counties. They cannot approve "public access" gates.
It's early. Is J Kev being funny?
Iron --
Quentin Whitwell played the race card against a fellow Republican (his work for Bill Luckett notwithstanding), and it was a despicable cheap shot.
If Sandridge's ad was racist, how is Quentin's proposal NOT racist?
the word racist is used everyday in the metro area towards some group or person...the word is watered down doesnt mean anything anymore... just be on the right side of right.. you dont have to prove anything to anybody... the way the word racist is thrown around so easily i dont think thats the worst thing you can be called.. not everything is black and white there are bigger things
majority black gated apartments? That is funny, I call it a prison.
I'm serious about the apartment complexes. I've seen premises liability cases where the plaintiff alleged that they were raped/robbed/whatever because the gates were defective. Esp. North Hill Square.
What really bothers me is that this proposal pits neighbors against neighbors, streets against adjacent streets and neighborhoods against neighborhoods. The fine definitional line between a residential street versus a collector street in a residential setting only primes the pump for disagreement, conflict and lawsuits.
I don't think this will pass. It certainly won't withstand Harvey Johnson's veto.
Some goofy comments. Would it help to know that Mr. Whitwell is likely responding to a request from the residents of Avery Circle, who want to put up a gate in a neighborhood that is perfectly suited for one? What's wrong with trying to help your constituents?
seems like one of donna ladds interns slipped over at the jfp...a story went up about haley apologizing for 1961 to the freedom riders.. it showed haley in a good light on the JFP.. i saw it for 5 minutes then it was pulled.. they only want reconciliation one way
We want to be pro-active and we want to send a message that although streets are public, roads are not to be used to scope out potential criminal activity.
Twitterwell falls short of being precise here because his proposed ordinance creates two classes of citizens who may receive the benefits of gating deterrence. Regardless of the ability to pay his ordinance segments out only a subset of residents for special treatment.
Shit can this one Harvey. Chalk it up to greenhorn overreach.
Oh Phuck off 4:59. Or run yourself...spineless piece of shit.
"subset" "greenhorn" Grow a pair, be a man, and call QW if you have an issue. PUSSY.
What's silly is presuming only whites live in a neighborhood that would be gated.
Think on it, J. Kev
Don't play dumb IG. It is about who is being gated out.
Thank goodness we got those roadside puppy sales shutdown. Happy days are here again.
See 4:59 and 6:04. Amen 5:14. You other 2 need to quit talking to yourself.
Oh Phuck off 4:59. Or run yourself...spineless piece of shit.
"subset" "greenhorn" Grow a pair, be a man, and call QW if you have an issue. PUSSY.
God love progressive binary thinkers such as yourself who measure worth or value by the presence and size of testes. Strangely Donna Ladd does the same so you are indeed in fine company. I'd normally suggest that you consider growing a brain so that you could then seek professional help but I'm guessing it is too late for that.
Cheers.
U creeps all need to get a job. It's over.com for Jacktown. Forget gates, get a shotgun
6:30
sweet. loved it
6:30 and 7:03. Same douchbag.
Everybody relax. The ordinance is DOA.
You are right 8:32 but it is irrational that it is DOA.
There is no logic to the notion that because not everyone can afford to do something, that those who can should be barred from using the fruits of their labor as they choose. And, that a gate is only to keep out a race is racist on it's face.
This is the politics of creating emotional conflict where none should exist in an effort to manipulate voters.
FWIW, Avery Gardens is hardly lilly white.
I think its funny that very few people understand J Kevs excellent point. Twitwell called a recent ad by Madison County Sheriffs canidate Sandridge "racist" in the clarion ledger. The ad was about proptecting Madison County from the crime of jackson and twitwell called it racist. Now he wants gates to protect the people of his area from the crime of jackson. if the sheriffs ad was racist, twitwell surely is also. So know the facts before you try to smash on J Kev.
8:50, just so you know all of the facts, Twitwell did come back later in the day after talking to the candidate and apologize for overreacting to the ad.
8:50, just so you know all of the facts, Twitwell did come back later in the day after talking to the candidate and apologize for overreacting to the ad.
Typical RINO kissing behind-the-scenes asses after the fact. Where is the press release restating his position? Did he drop a note for Kingfish to publish backing off his attacks on Sandridge? NO he won't do that because he's trying to bullshit Ladd and the libs and the local MSM journo-zombies and the black community that he's on their team as Jackson's very own Republican "tell-it-like-it-is politician".
The dude is no different than Obama. Says anything at anytime to anybody. He's a bullshit artist. Twitterwell has been exposed, again. Thanks for your help.
Quentin is a good guy. Big heart. Have known him for some time. Voted for him. Sometimes ego gets in the way and he goes temporarily tone deaf. This ordinance is an example. Does more big picture damage than the boost it gives in the ward. Gates don't bring people together. Could the timing be much worse vis-a-vis his published comments barely two weeks old about the Mark Sandridge ad? The predictable race agitators will have a field day with this in the press. Like I said Q is sometimes tone deaf.
You are all douches. Rename this the douchebag blog.
I just don't get it. Why is everyone so concerned about gating a neighborhood? I for one would rather live in one than not. How is that racist? He wants to keep thugs out of his neighborhood....he didn't say black people or mexicans or white people....he said criminals. How is that racist? this is stupid. I agree with Anon 10:14. Especially since he/she used my favorite word.
Rebekah the racism is obvious but, that aside, how about addressing the equity.
Would you be okay if the people on Kaywood could do a gate but the people on Saratoga could not because it will undoubtedly be designated a collector street or road?
Should the properties behind a gate be subject to a higher valuation for property tax purposes since same would be worth more because they benefit from the added deterrence the gate provides?
No one gets it. People in jackson should have gotten out a long time ago. The only people i know who still live in jackson are the ones who can afford to or cannot afford to get out. My wealthy friends can afford alarms, gates and private schools and my friends who live in the worse parts of Jackson cannot afford to get out. It truely is a city of the haves and the have nots. The issue here is for the haves and is an outward sign of frustration because thee people are helpless in a lawless city. The middle class both black and white have bolted and for good reason.
It truely is a city of the haves and the have nots.
Twitterwell plans to keep it that way.
I STILL don't see the racism. I think people like turning things into bigger issues than they really are..but, that aside, let's discuss the gates.
I, for one, am so for putting gates in Heatherwood. I think it would deter SOME crime....not all. Nothing is going to stop the crime 100%, but I do think gates help some. Heatherwood has entirely too many cut through roads. Close some off and add a gate to keep some of the criminals out. Now, me saying that does that make ME racist? Because I basically just said the same thing Quentin said- he wants gates up to keep criminals out. The word criminal isn't the color of someone's skin...
If I were to say "I want gates put up to protect us from black people"...then yes, that would pretty much make me racist. But instead, I want to be protected from C R I M I N A L S. I could care a less what color their skin is- white people, mexican, asian, black people....whatever they are...if they commit crimes then I want a way to try and prevent them from entering my neighborhood.
We are armed. We have an alarm system. But, they don't care. Criminals these days have ways around it all- they are not stupid. And majority of them do not want to mess Takes too much time. Are ALL gated communities safe? Well of course not. No one is 100% safe. But it would help...and I am 100% for it.
THAT isn't racist. THAT is wanting to be safe....
On another note...12:17- our house is for sale and we are moving this summer to get out of Jackson. Tired of it. I don't even feel safe going to Walgreens at night and you can forget Kroger! I hope Quentin can do some good things for Jackson...I am all for the gates Quentin so keep it up. But all the "he said/she said" racist remarks is bs. It sounds like Donna Ladd has hacked this blog. When did using the word "criminal" become racism? It's stupid.
And I meant to say most crinimals don't want to mess with gates because it takes too much time....don't know what happened.
Okay put Rebekah down for supporting extra crime protection in Jackson for only a select few.
9:27, he said it on facebook, and at last count he had 2,800 friends who could see it. Not sure what KF's unique views are daily (don't care to know either). And how Obama has anything to do with street gates in Jackson is above my pay grade.
lets face the facts and quit apologizing please, and forget Donna and her political correct rantings. Statistically, All the crime in Jackson is either black on black violence or black on whoever theft. Also, most of the crime involves substance, either due to it or in order to obtain it. None of you apologist morons are gonna fix this with expensive sushi, leftist pinko freepress, or overpriced pizza next to the hood. The only thing you can do is firewall it with cops and gates.
But it doesn't make me racist :)
If a neighborhood wants to get gates then it takes initiative....and alot of time and dedication. I worry about my family, neighbors, and the safety of my neighborhood.
Oh everyone get OVER it. gripe gripe gripe about gates. If it bothers you so bad then vote against it. Most neighborhoods have to have a certain amount of votes to get it approved. It also takes years. Petit Bois is STILL trying to get it approved. SO get over it.
People with money want to protect their shit from thugs who want to steal it. I want my shit protected. We live in a gated community off Meadowbrook and wouldn't live anywhere else. I work hard for my family to have everything they need. Gates add to the property value of the neighborhood. Get over it.
1:42 Thank you...one hundred times thank you
I can't believe anyone finds gates to be racist. Unless of course they equate criminal = black, which would make them, uh, racist (but too lacking in insight or self-awareness to realize this about themselves).
We pay slightly over $1000 per year to our HOA (outside Jackson) to have guards 24/7/365 at the entrance to the only road into out neighborhood. Happy to pay it too.
12:55 "Okay put Rebekah down for supporting extra crime protection in Jackson for only those willing to pay extra for it to protect their families."
There - fixed it for you.
So I am getting from the gist of this conversation all you gate totin' neighborhoods don't want me messin' in your front yard?
I swear, I pick it up, bag it and throw it in a proper receptacle. Roo poo that is.
quit trying to defend yourselves when called a racist... that is the only tactic many know... just be on the RIGHT side of RIght!peopole are called racist daily in the metro area... get over it.. if your not racist your not racist and you shouldnt have to defent yourself from it just because someone resorts to calling you that... something/someone being called racist nowadays is like saying hello... crying wolf and people are getting it
3:11 took Latin 3 in high school, but should have taken typing and English grammer.
He/she also came in last in the spelling bee as a senior competing against fifth graders.
3:16- some people have stuff to do during the day so i made a quick post... keep the main thang the main thang..brudder
the reason we are known as racist is that here in jackson the majority of the criminals caught are black. so when you talk about crime the blacks get all defensive because they feel that we are automatically talking about them. lets put the shoe on another foot for a second. Both Whites and Blacks are sceptical about flying with middle easterns. Is that racist?
WE are not known as racist in jackson... jackson is a predominantly african-american city and they will call you racist no matter what you do... its just the blame game.. JSU is about to blame someone for their own problems on their football team.. instead of doing something about the academic problem they will blame somebody else.. neede some backbone and aint got it
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