Thursday, May 27, 2010

Christie stands up to teacher demanding $83,000/yr

25 comments:

Paul Mitchell said...

Kingfish, the fun part is that there is only one Rita Wilson working at Rutherford and she makes more than 86k a year. I guess she doesn't really know how much she makes.

http://belowthebeltway.com/2010/05/26/chris-christie-to-teacher-dont-like-your-paycheck-then-quit/

Anonymous said...

Amen! 86k per year with summers off and days ending at 3:30?! Join the private sector for awhile lady. You will be BEGGING for your job back at the current pay scale. And yes I know you do work at home. Guess what! That's not unique to teaching, very common in most professional positions.

Anonymous said...

more evidence that teachers live in a fantasy world with their own suns, moons, and stars.

I'd like to see those spoiled bitches get up at 4:30 a.m., fix breakfast for the men, feed the kids, feed the chickens, and get on a bonnett for the hot sun and work the vegetable garden all morning. Like many of our grandmothers did every day when society wasn't quite so affluent.

KaptKangaroo said...

I like this dude.

Anonymous said...

My wife is a public school teacher with a master's degree. With her degree and experience, she makes around $40,000 a year for 187 working days. That's around $213 per day + state benefits and an attractive PERS deal. If she worked a 250 day schedule like I and most people do, that's about $53,000. In Mississippi, where the average family of four makes $34,000

She thinks its extremely fair considering that she has 2 weeks at Christmas, a spring break and two months of summer. She works longer than 3:00 because she's a good teacher.

In her experience in opinion, the teachers that gripe about pay are the ones that you don't want teaching your children.

Anonymous said...

I'm totally crushing on this guy...KF back in February you asked if Rubio is the answer for Repubs. I'm wondering if it might be Christie instead.

Ironghost said...

I'd love to have a job where I was making "Only 83k". Jeez, such torture.

Anonymous said...

I would like to know where in the state of MS a school teacher makes that much!! All of you think it is so easy to teach, I would like for you to spend one day in a classroom and then talk to you about teaching. No phone calls, no breaks, no bathroom trips except between classes, requirements to be at all games and activities held by the school, phone calls from parents that want their child to have a free ride. The real reward is seeing the child learn what you have been teaching......you can see the light bulbs go off when they get what you are talking about.

About having summers off.....I wouldn't call it summers, maybe a week or two. Classes are required to continue your licenses which must be taken during the summer and we have to pay for that out of our small salary (except for this one woman who makes more than any other person in the state). Kids get out June 2 which means we get out June 9 and then they start back August 6 and we start back July 28. That's summer.

Again, I love teaching cause it is so rewarding! The benefits out weigh all the things mentioned above.

Anonymous said...

Salary range of only 83k is probably admin. That is the reason for reducing total school district to no more than 50 in the entire state.Then there might be enough $ for teachers.

Kingfish said...

When you get up into the NE, the salaries go up a bit but so does the cost of living. We think 83,000 is alot of money here but in NJ that is nothing unfortunately.

However, you need to look at the deals the teachers have in NJ and their reaction to any proposed changes. they are totally cut off from reality.

As for teachers having to grade at home, do things at home, so what? So do most other professions. Every small business owner I know brings the work home, it never stops. I know plenty of small business owners who make less than their employees. Then there are sales people. Most get paid a base of 15-2500 a month, depending on industry, just enough to survive. Expense reports, call reports, projections, and other time-consuming paperwork, think that is done during 8-5 M-F when its prime-time to see customers? Nope. its done at home on their own time. My point is in most professions, you don't leave the work at the office and bring it home and I'm sick of the teachers griping about how they have to bring work home. Guess what? We ALL do.

Paul Mitchell said...

Just out of curiosity, what exactly do all those teachers assistants that I hear are going to lose all of their jobs do? Are those the folks that grade the papers these days, so the teachers do NOT have to do much work at home?

Starting pay in MS is around 28k. Have you ever had a conversation with someone that just graduated from Ed School?

Anonymous said...

9:14 (first 9:14), are you being serious? Come to the office one day (or better yet, for a full year) with any number of people I know in the private sector and see the other half. Plenty haven't been able to take any sort of vacation in years.

I'm sitting here laughing at the "we really don't get a summer; we have to take classes." Hysterical.

I'm not belittling teaching. I think it is a noble profession. But let's be realistic and honest in our assessments.

Anonymous said...

I like this guy a lot. Finally we have another person telling it like it is. I could see Haley Babour saying the same thing. People don't want their taxes raised, and if there is no money, there is no money.

Anonymous said...

Since when has starting teacher pay been 28k?

http://www.rcsd.ms/internal/human_resources/GCBA-E1%20(05-13-2009)%20CERTIFIED%20SALARY%20SCHEDULE%202010.pdf

Bachelor's degree with 0 experience makes $32,400 in Rankin County. That is less than $2000 from what the AVERAGE FAMILY OF FOUR IN MISSISSIPPI MAKES.

If a teacher has a master's degree and seven years experience, that's a $40,000 salary, again, plus benefits and PERS. If you have three years experience and NBCT certification, you're making close to $43,000. That's a solid salary for 187 days of work.

My wife is required to get five CEU's (roughly 8-10 three hour long classes) over a FIVE YEAR PERIOD. Most of them can be taken during the normal 187 days that they work.

And contrary to popular belief, teachers aren' paid for the summer. They are paid for 187 days work (August-May, excluding breaks and holidays) but their salary is spread over 12 even payments.

Paul Mitchell said...

Sorry, I did not look at the year, that was 2006-2007. They have probably raised it by forty percent since then.

But, the scales on the Mississippi.gov website, and for 2009, average for Rankin is 43,193.

Anonymous said...

Chris Christie is a huge Springsteen fan - been to over 120 shows.

Anonymous said...

Did I not hear in the background the newsperson say this person is not a teacher, just plays one at city hall meeting(my words.)

Anonymous said...

I'm a big Springsteen fan also, music not politics. I've been to probably 30 shows. I'm confused on the point of his musical taste...

Anonymous said...

Where do you think you would be without teachers???

Hookah said...

This teacher will sleep with one of her students before she retires.

Anonymous said...

Teacher sounded like an idiot. In today's world to have a steady job is a small miracle. She needs to be like millions with no job and no hope.

Anonymous said...

I am a Facebook friend of Gov. Christie and am watching what he is doing very closely. So far, I have nothing but admiration and respect for him.

Anonymous said...

I'm a Facebook Liker of Facebook Like things. Facebook is cool. Really. Its, like, cool. Oh and vote for me on MySpace, 'cause, its, like, cool too.

Anonymous said...

My 17 year old daughter who goes to NWRankin said that most of her teachers don't even know how to teach. One teacher she had this year showed movies almost all year and for the exam, he gave them the test and allowed them to look in the book.

This isn't an isolated case either.

Anonymous said...

Well I do both teaching and work in the "real world". I can tell you that teaching is much harder. But the rewards are greater.

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