Monday, December 4, 2023

It's Not Always About Winning

 Sometime's life is just not fair but remember, failure builds character.  

40 comments:

Anonymous said...

Bet that is just how the board works.

Anonymous said...

Alabama and/or Georgia would stomp FSU. I am no FSU fan by any stretch and think its poetic justice that the ACC commissioner was initially against an expanded playoff schedule. That being said, FSU got hosed and I feel bad for them and their fans for possibly the first and only time ever.

Kingfish said...

FSU had 55th SOS, Bama was 5th. That probably had a lot to do with it. Bama beat a 1 and lost to a 3. FSU's best win was a three loss LSU team that literally has no defense.

Anonymous said...

This whole fiasco is proof that a 4-team playoff field was never a good setup. It should have been a minimum of 8 teams from the get-go. The FSUs and 1-loss teams of this season deserve a chance to be in the playoffs. Hopefully, the 12 team playoff model will work alot beter.

Anonymous said...

FSU gets to make their voice heard in their consolation bowl. All they gotta do is beat Georgia. It ain’t gonna happen.

Anonymous said...

Stellar writing as always, right down to the walk-off troll: “This edition of ACC Shorts…”

And let’s not forget, the crew’s tight schedule was even more compressed; they couldn’t be sure of the subject matter until about noon on Sunday.

These folks are truly talented.

Anonymous said...

so basically, because LSU and Clemson underperformed this year and their QB gets hurt they get left out. You realize these schedules are often set years in advance not the week before. Its hard to leave Alabama out but another point to consider if Alabama is truly so much better than anybody else in the playoff and will blow them off the field (I really don't think so) then FSU would have made all four about equal and made for a heck of a playoff.

Anonymous said...

What if FSU does beat Georgia then what? we apologize.

Anonymous said...

Karma is a .....

https://sports.yahoo.com/if-not-for-the-alliance-college-footballs-muddled-playoff-picture-would-be-much-clearer-this-year-022809015.html

Anonymous said...

If FSU beats Georgia convincingly, maybe some AP voters will vote FSU #1 and they can claim a split championship, like all those that Ole Miss claims.

But they are not going to beat Georgia.

Anonymous said...

I'm not a particular "fan" of any of the four teams competing for the championship nor any of the next four which had reasonable claims to play for it. I used to be a fan of college football. That said, money has destroyed college football. When Andy Coats convinced the US Supreme Court in 1984, Whizzer White (whose nickname came from his days as a college ball player) told him he had won his case but ruined college ball. About 25 years later, after seeing the effects of NCAA v Board of Regents on things, Andy agreed.

Here is both the fantasy (money-wise) and nightmare (for true fans of college ball) scenario: Texas and Alabama wind up playing for the national championship. There is no outcome that makes the rematch an objective assessment of which is the best team in the land but there is no outcome that negates the huge amount of "today money" that will be made - by a select few organizations - from its mere occurrence, no matter the outcome. If Texas wins again, why was Alabama there, but if Alabama wins it amounts to a "do over." In other words, if it occurs it is just more proof that money is the real goal of what "college ball" is now. Toss in the Orange Bowl/Georgia v FSU and ALMOST no matter what happens there it provides strong evidence that one of them should have been in the hunt.

The question should not be, "Can Georgia or FSU win two more?" but did either earn the chance to play for it. The only real support for "no" to either can be found in the potential revenue of a Washington v FSU national championship versus that of a game with any two out of Alabama, Texas, and Michigan, and which is now been made a certainty. The best scenario for true fans of college ball (rather than single-team partisans) is Alabama squeaks past Michigan (ahem, 27-24), Washington beats Texas, and then beats the piss out Alabama. That provides more argument against the CFP and a stronger argument for an 8-team playoff and a reasonable/rational conference system.

Anonymous said...

FSU isn't the same team without their starting QB. Simple as that. Did anyone watch them struggle to move the ball on Louisville? Liberty was also undefeated. Makes no difference. Bama, who lost on their home field by 10 to Texas, is a better team than FSU is right now. Best four, not 'participation trophy' four.

Anonymous said...

From my perspective, all year long teams are rated solely on wins/losses. Now the CFP committee wants to use a different criteria.

Anonymous said...

Pregame and halftime commentators all picked the same four and basically said it didn't matter whether FSU won. By the way, Louisville looked terrible. Georgia is the one crying...

Chuck Noll said...

If anyone thinks a 12-team format will solve anything, think again. The arguments over who deserves a CFP spot will only increase, and the chaotic scenario that developed this year will be the norm instead of the exception.

Anonymous said...

This is the way of the current system, but they need to be more honest and transparent about it. At some point, there should be a classification released to name the playoff-eligible teams, while letting every other team know it doesn't matter if they are undefeated, or how long they have been ranked, or whether they won their conference.
Maybe similar to what was done before the playoff format - that is, the BCS rankings that were not released until several games into a season. That would be more honest than the charade of allowing an undefeated team of a power 5 conference believe it had a chance - in spite of being in or near the top 5 all season, and having won its conference and championship game.
We all know that's the truth, why not just say it.

Bum Phillips said...

11:48, a program like FSU would certainly always be on your tongue-in-cheek/hypothetical/sarcastic/cynical payoff eligible list. Will they snag a spot in the CFP when they are two touchdown underdogs (see Orange Bowl line) against another team that did not make the playoffs? No.

Anonymous said...

Talk about struggle. Did Anyone see Alabama struggle against South Florida. did anyone see Alabama struggle against a 6-6 Auburn that should have beat them if not for one of the biggest bonehead plays of the year. Is it about pretty wins Now? What if Alabama QB suffers and unfortunate injury in practice for the final four or fails English Comp and cant play what do we tell FSU Then?

Anonymous said...

I say if FSU does beat Georgia, Then make it a split champion they were robbed. 13-0 is 13-0 in a power 5

Anonymous said...

several good points made but again glad 12 team playoff coming and Yes if 12 team this year Liberty is one of the 12 if you refuse to give them a seat at the table then give the little guys their own table.

Kingfish said...

I was laughing while I watched that game but Milroe didn't play that game and well, the Bama backups leave something to be desired.

The next week against MSU saw the old Nick. He was yelling at coaches and players. Rolled back the offense to 2012 and went to the run, defense toughened up, and they got better.

Can't really count Auburn. That is one of those games where records don't matter. It will be a dog fight unlike the faux rivalry that is the Egg Bowl.

Anonymous said...

QB QB Hurt? Its a team game. what about one of the best defenses in the nation at FSU. Georgia won the last two national championships with a game manager (a QB you tell hand the ball off and just don't lose the game) and few years back Alabama won two national championships with qbs that were also game managers. I guarantee you the FSU Backup is as good as these two game managers. Okay whats the excuse now Kingfish

Anonymous said...

Oh Kingfish will always have an excuse I see. Cant really count those rivalry games WHAT? Ohio State would like for their rivalry game not to count. Somebody forgot to tell the committee rivalry games don't count

Anonymous said...

Hearing from a lot of people over in Alabama that if Nick wins it all this will be his swan sound. We shall see but I can see him wanting to go out on top.

Anonymous said...

12:13 the game is not played in the vegas odds betting sheets. Your argument and all the off-the-field calculations are what created this nonsense in the first place. How many hoops teams every year are double digit underdogs all the way to the sweet 16? Yes, it happens and that's what makes it fun.

Let's stop allowinig the "system" to be the game we follow instead of the actual football. And you seem to discount that FSU played through the adversity of losing its starting QB and still they made it through. Let's stop playing pretend games in an attempt to add legitimacy to this hop-skipping of 1-loss teams over undefeated teams. Just be honest about it.

Anonymous said...

All the hand-wringing is over AL inclusion. Why is no one bitching about UT with one loss? Yeah they beat AL but lost to OK who didn't even make the Big-12 final.

Anonymous said...

The TV executives got involved and saw to it that the committee made the right selection. Michigan would have absolutely mauled FSU and advertising revenue would be reduced.

Anonymous said...

December 4, 2023 at 12:31 PM, I also saw Alabama beat the number one team in the nation, with a 29 game win streak, on a neutral field. Milroe, didn't play a perfect game to get that win, either. Did you see that?

Anonymous said...

Georgia is going to beat Free shoes university like a rented mule.

Anonymous said...

Before the Playoff or even BCS it was all determined by AP rankings.

Since 1998-25 years ago, the SEC has won 15 of them. 60%.

Why? It's the best conference for college football. Period.

The committee had to include the SEC champion. It's earned.

Nobody’s talking about ACC Shorts said...

Georgia played the softest schedule in the SEC. Auburn was driving in UGA territory as time expired in a 1-score game. The Leg-Humpers didn’t play LSU or aTm. Or Bama in the regular season.

Bama ain’t all that, either. If that perverted piss-ant piney woods bumpkin — Freeze — could defend a 4th & 31, Bama would be sitting their asses at home with the Mutts, too.

Anonymous said...

December 4, 2023 at 12:40 PM, the rest of Free shoe's offense isn't like those examples you give. Those Alabama and Georgia, teams were filled with 4-star, and 5-star players. You must have missed the shitshow that was the Louisville, and Free shoe's game.

Anonymous said...

December 4, 2023 at 3:21 PM, if, ifs, and buts were candy, and nuts, we would all have a Merrier Christmas.

You're correct, Bama isn't all of that, but they will be more than enough for the other three teams. They have yet to play their best game.

Anonymous said...

I had to link this;

https://twitter.com/rollbamaroll/status/1731727736010404062?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1731727736010404062%7Ctwgr%5Edc3f0d41e402029aebcaa4b440653ef6a941c2c6%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rollbamaroll.com%2F2023%2F12%2F4%2F23987875%2Fdonald-trump-blames-ron-desantis-for-fsu-college-football-playoff-snub

Anonymous said...

I have been out of pocket most of the day, but this is crazy;

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4340764-desantis-rips-college-football-playoff-committee-over-florida-state-snub/

Anonymous said...

The Battle for the Golden Egg is very much a rivalry Kingfish. Not even you can be that dense. C'mom, man.

Anonymous said...

There is talk that the FSU snub was the middle finger to Ronda Santis and his fight with the Fighting Mickey Mouses. The House of Mouse has won.

John Nash said...

And if 12:30 saw it on Tik Tok it has to be true

Anonymous said...

I don't agree, December 5, 2023 at 12:30. I think the link below can best explain what happened. We could have had 12 teams this year, but;

https://sports.yahoo.com/if-not-for-the-alliance-college-footballs-muddled-playoff-picture-would-be-much-clearer-this-year-022809015.html

Empires Always Die said...

Georgia was the best team in the country all year, loses by three in the final game, and DOESN't make the playoffs? If Auburn's DC didn't have his head up his butt, Alabama would have two losses this season. Give me a break.


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