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Bloomberg, June 2016: China's Dog Meat Problem: A grisly festival shows why the country's food supply is still so perilous.

The dog meat trade offers a vivid example of why these problems are so persistent. Visitors to Yulin's festival have witnessed dogs being slaughtered on streets or in filthy abattoirs. Many of the animals were likely strays or kidnapped, raising serious concerns about disease. Some may have even had rabies. And yet thousands will be consumed over the 10 days of the festival.

That may sound shocking. But with few qualified food inspectors, and plenty of more mainstream worries, regulators aren't in any hurry to crack down, especially in regions where dog eating is acceptable and contributes to local coffers.

The story is much the same at wet markets across China, whether the animal is a dog or a duck. Despite the best intentions of officials in Beijing, the vast scale of China's agricultural sector -- with hundreds of millions of farmers -- makes it difficult to monitor. And its economic importance means that local governments are keen to protect it, no matter how abhorrent the practices. Two years ago, I watched as chicken vendors at a Shanghai-area poultry market were tipped off to a bird flu-related culling and simply fled with their animals.


BBC, April 2: Shenzhen becomes first Chinese city to ban eating cats and dogs

Shenzhen has become the first Chinese city to ban the sale and consumption of dog and cat meat.

It comes after the coronavirus outbreak was linked to wildlife meat, prompting Chinese authorities to ban the trade and consumption of wild animals.

Shenzhen went a step further, extending the ban to dogs and cats. The new law will come into force on 1 May.

Including this ChiCom spin:

However, the practice of eating dog meat in China is not that common - the majority of Chinese people have never done so and say they don't want to.
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In China alone, there are 81,589 confirmed cases and 3,318 deaths, said the National Health Commission.

Updated from past several days:

I went back and looked at the day to day percentages starting with the initial confirmed case on Mar 11. It looks like we are seeing MS's numbers _begin_ to line up with USA overall (9.7%) daily rate.

300%
25%
100%
20%
67%
70%
47%
60%
75%
48%
20%
29%
18%
29%
19%
15%
14%
12%
11% (3-30-2020)
15% (3-31-2020)
10% (4-1-2020)

Sort of splitting the difference here, but around 13% looks reasonable for now. If this continues to hold, I would expect to see the following over the next 5 days.

847
957
1,081
1,221
1,379

There is a bottom limit, a mathematical asymptote, that we will not go below. Where that is remains to be seen. Also to note, even if/when MS gets to 10% daily rate, that still means just under 1k new confirmed each day by end of April.

Any model has trouble hitting a moving target. At least MS daily numbers are dropping. It's important to find new ways to not spread this thing. Stay home. Wipe down door handles. Etc.

Even at 10% daily rate, it covers the whole state by June 30.

Well, it still appears almost linear. There are two things we can take from it:
1.) Precautions are working (hopeful for this)
2.) Infections are underreported (more cynical realistic side)

Be careful and stay safe.

I wonder where we are at as far as a testing backlog. Report yesterday on the news showed one of the main labs wasn't getting results out for 10 days. Cases are still increasing for symptom onset back to mid-March; however, there is a distinct peak at March 20 that hopefully shows social distancing that was highly encouraged starting March 16 may have worked.

I'm glad to see the numbers are still relatively linear. After the spike from 30 to 60 new cases on March 20, we haven't seen a doubling in new cases except for yesterday. A doubling every 13-15 days with a peak expected in 20 days would give results much better than predicted.

No way schools open back up this year. However, maybe if we can keep doing our part we can get the number of new cases down to where we can relax some of the distancing recommendations by the first of May and businesses can begin reopening. There will obviously still need to be restrictions on large gatherings and the number of people allowed in the dining area of restaurants for a longer period, but any relief will be welcome.

USA infected 216768 = 0.06% of entire population. USA dead 5148 = 2.37% of dead. 0.0014% of total infected in USA. Good reason to lock up the rest of our country. We would actually see more infected and dead with more recovered with antibodies if it ran a natural course. Still not the big one as Gates is pushing.

Of course the infections are under-reported. There are thousands or more likely tens of thousands infected in the state who haven't been tested and won't be tested. This fixation on these reported stats which represents only a subset the total infected population does nothing but fuel the hysteria.

@10:22 AM - Is that where the expression "hair of the dog" originated?

@Longtime JJ Reader

Southerners eat all manner of wild game, what’s the difference?

What happens if CWD gets into the deer population here?

By the May 1st we'll have seen violence in major cities across the nation. 10 MILLION file for unemployment in two weeks with MILLIONS more unable to do so due to maxed out state systems and human resources? This powder keg doesn't make it to May 1st.

Are deer and other game offered up in roadside or streetside non-sanitary non-refrigerated open air markets in MS? Can you point me to one?

@Longtime JJ Reader,
I'm reminded of the scene in The Patriot when Mel Gibson comments that a dog makes a fine meal.

China keeps a lot of traditions that have fallen out of popularity in the west. For instance, before Christianity destroyed the Roman Empire, the Romans favored a sauce called Garum that exists today as Chinese Fish Sauce.

Testing is behind by about 800 to 1200 samples.

What happens if CWD gets into the deer population here?

The Rogan interview Kingfish offered his readers three weeks ago here spoke directly to CWD. Guessing you didn't bother to listen.

Harvesting game animals from their natural, open habitat is quite a bit different from the completely unsanitary conditions found in China's markets. Game animals are generally healthy, and those that aren't will die off rather than infect entire populations.

When you have animals packed into cages, covered in excrement, and spreading diseases among themselves you can't help but foster situations like we are facing now.

The actual number of infections is significantly higher than the current confirmed number. Nobody without serious symptoms was being tested, you've got days before test results come back, and you've got the delay between infection and showing symptoms.

The confirmed figures represent infections that happened 10 or more days ago and resulted in symptoms serious enough to go to the doctor. I think you could multiply the current confirmed cases by 20 or more to get a realistic actual figure of people who have gotten COVID so far.

I would guess many of these numbers are from people who choose to get out and mingle with other people instead of staying home.

Still glad you stopped calling the virus anything else other than what it actually is.
Not giving you credit though because you never should have in the first place.
But here we go again.

Don't you just loove @11:32. They are so precious. Bless their heart.

Bug chaser here. It is really hard to catch Covid-19. I've been licking doorknobs for weeks and I still dont have any symptoms.

Why are those ladies at the tax collectors office in Madison being forced to sell car tags???That is not essential.Somebody gonna get sued if they get sick when all the other government offices shut down in the metro. Madison County you should be smarter than that.

1. It's cute that you think hunters in the US are some pinnacle of food safety standards, or that all deer/animal processors are created equally.

2. H1N1 Swine Flu started from pig safety standards in the US.

Look, China is a lying, repressive, murderous regime that mislead the world about their numbers, and the virus clearly started there, but how does that contribute to any conversation about where the US is now?

Does blaming China make Trump look less stupid?

At 1:24-Gerald Steen and Shelton want all the money they can get so they can spend it. Wonder how much the lawsuits will cost when employees get sick from the Rona?

It will be interesting to see how much of an impact Mississippi's overall poor health has on likelihood of death, and on which ages face fatal consequences from infection. Even among the relatively young, working age population, Mississippi has very high rates of conditions causing comorbidity like obesity and diabetes.

If you suspect you have covid-19 and are denied medical treatment, a test, or anything else for Covid-19
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*Regular Mucinex is your friend
*So are multivitamins

1. Try to stay away from fever reducers if you can unless your fever gets really high(103/104). If it gets that high, try to seek emergency care. The more you suppress a fever, the longer a virus will last.
2. If you can’t acquire a decongestant from your doctor, a hot steamy shower should help you cough up the mucous. If you can’t bare to take a shower, just sit on the toilet and breathe in the moist air while the water runs and the bathroom door is shut. Cough up the mucous into a disposable container. Things like lemon water should help soothe your throat and break up the mucous.
3. Stay super hydrated. “Sugar water” is your friend. Think Gatorade/Powerade with electrolytes. Again, water will thin the mucous.
4. If you get the chills, cover up in blankets.
5. If you can’t bare it, seek medical attention from any source. Your best bet for admission to a hospital will be an EMT/EMS if things get out of hand.

1;24 here again.I asked a county employee who was making the decision in Madison County and was told that the administrator was consulting with their attorney Mike Espy . Can you say Morgan and Morgan.

@Kingfish, I'm begging you to stop entertaining BETTER THAN EVER @ 10:26. This homemade model gets posted EVERY SINGLE DAY with the doom and gloom of 100% infection in MS by end of June. It's a waste of calculations!

For it to come to fruition, every single Mississippian would have to come into contact with an infected person. Even though many are still playing STUPID and moving around too much, a LARGE NUMBER of us have been holed up in our homes for over two weeks; therefore, 100% cannot and will not be infected. I suspect the quarantines/shelter in place orders will extend until at least May to continue to flush out the infections. Even if we get to the point that it is recommended we move freely, many elderly and immunocompromised people will not be trusting enough to do so... so, again, 100% will not become infected!

The recent spike correlates with the beginning of many people's quarantine. The #'s will start declining even more soon. If everyone ACTUALLY shelters in place beginning tomorrow, the numbers should really start to drop off in a couple of weeks given the KNOWN incubation period of 1-14 days.

BETTER THAN EVER... you can rest your calculator. There's NO WAY POSSIBLE for your dream doom and gloom to occur. STOP pushing your panic every day!

Hey, Kingfish - your blog is getting stale so I'm gonna spice it up.

C-19 is affecting and killing a lot more men than women. Current theory is that women's two X chromosomes help compensate for and fight the virus while men, who have only one X chromosome, cannot adapt for the disease. Same basis for why female babies thrive more than male babies, and women live longer than men. Will BTE or some other brilliant internet guru look into that angle for us women of the world?

Also, Mexico is already testing a C-19 vaccine on lab animals. That country has been researching and developing vaccines for Zika and dengue fever viruses for several years, and are now using that research - and their state of the art laboratory facilities - as a platform for a C-19 vaccine.

Ok, now I'll wait for the responsive bile to follow. LOL

8:01, You couldn't share a link or two? Oh well, you could've just ranted loudly on the corner of Farish St.

8;01PM wrote, "Also, ***Mexico*** is already testing a C-19 vaccine on lab animals. That country has been researching and developing vaccines for Zika and dengue fever viruses for several years, and are now using that research - and their state of the art laboratory facilities - as a platform for a C-19 vaccine."

Oh, man, wouldn't that be something. A Mexican vaccine for a Chinese virus.

So many heads exploding, so many. It is perfect, perfect. And YUGE, YUGE! It's gonna be the greatest deal ever made, the greatest deal. Ever made. Ever. Done by Easter. And YUGE. And perfect. By Easter. Isn't my daughter so hot? So hot. And perfect. So perfect.

I can hear it now: "We're gonna build a wall and that other country is gonna pay for it!" Well actually I guess it'll be, "Vamos a construir un muro y Estados Unidos lo va e pagar..."