You know it's campaign season when the Battle of the Polls begins. The folks at Mason-Dixon released a poll that showed The Tater and The Hair at a dead heat in the race to replace Governor Phil Bryant. However, an internal polling memo for the Tate Reeves campaign is floating around that shows the Lieutenant Governor with a sizeable lead over the Attorney General.
The memo states:
We completed a three-night statewide survey of 600 likely 2019 Mississippi voters on January 30,2019 and the results indicate that this year’s marquee race starts out with significant separation between Lt. Gov. Reeves and Attorney General Jim Hood. Reeves leads Hood in a hypothetical matchup 51%-36% when leaners are included. The survey, geographically stratified to reflect history voter trends, has a margin of error of +/- 3.46%.The rest of the memo is posted below.
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Gaaaaawwwwleeee! I guess that Tater's a smart one and he's a gonna be Gov. Tater not before too long.
Please, give me a break.
This stinks worse than the heap of sewage-contaminated asphalt used to pave the road to Tater's private mansion park and bass yacht. I sure hope he didn't waste his campaign money on a giant stretch-Ford-F150 and Skynyrd Meet and Greet tickets.
It was probably a poll of about 20 legislators who were forced to sign pledge cards in blood or risk losing the bond bill pork
Polling is a tough process in today's environment, primarily due to cell phones along with caller ID.
Also, this is nine months out from the election, with the primary for both stuck in between. If the dem candidate can get enough traction that Hood has to come out and speak to some issues, he is going to lose either some of his Dem support or his Independent support come November.
Don't know that Waller's entry will do the same thing to Reeves - his position has been pretty well stated over the years and he doesn't have to change it for the primary.
Regardless of the validity of polling today, I would much rather see and operate on the results from OnMessage than Mason Dixon, considering their results over the past few cycles in Mississippi.
This is worst than Rasmussen, what a joke.
Not better and not worse.
On Message is one of the biggest polling firms in DC. If you think they’re going to put out a poll that is complete BS, you have no idea how any of this works. They’d lose their reputation and cease to be able to get clients.
See, this is real data and it won’t go away. It would be used against them by their competitors and they know that. Therefore, big DC firms don’t put out BS numbers - they know it’d come back to haunt them later on.
Welcome to the game of tricking the polls....
Tell them who you aren’t voting for.....then turn out on voting day for who ya want.
Hey, Tate, ask your pollsters to run the numbers for Waller v. Hood.
If I’m not mistaken, President Hillary Clinton
also made some late campaign decisions
based on polling. I don’t think the outcome
is necessarily in doubt. But, the Lt, Governor
better not take his foot off the gas.
In this day and age anyone who answers the phone for a pollster is a fool. If you actually tell them who you are voting for you are a damn fool.
I wouldn't mind seeing telemarketers and career politicians going away like 8 Track tapes and Blockbuster.
I don't know Tate but my polling suggests that a lot of people just don't hold him in high regard. Don't know why exactly. Maybe money and his political machine can overcome that. It didn't for Hillary but Mississippians seem to vote for the idiot/thief/whatever they know vs the ones they don't know.
There are groups in Mississippi in which Tate polls very well. Unfortunately for him, they are dying out by the day as fast as there are people putting up their black face make-up and confederate do-rags. But no doubt, there are still plenty of them still out there.
I always vote a straight GOP ticket. My parents, husband and extended family do the same. We NEVER answer the pollsters and if we accidentally answer the phone we hang up. We don’t like being bothered at home. Not sure how accurate any of this stuff is.
What Tater needs to do is show up at the 50 yard line of Memorial Stadium this fall and give a fire breather about heritage and sovereignty. He can invite that same group of inbreds he spoke to a few years ago and bring all those flags. He might get a lake named after him.
The Little Emperor is gooood at math.
Seems like somebody has stepped out of line in every race except LT Governor and State Auditor. So, Chris, which one do you want?
Tate wins...Hood gets painted as loving the new Democratic Socialist Party while Waller will be looking for cheddar to compete.
Tate, save your money and build an entrance to your Hood with your money. Not ours. You're going to lose and we will Waller in it.
Oh poor little Kim Jong-Tate, he had to dip into his $7 million warchest to buy a poll. I don’t care what any damn poll says. #NEVER TATE. If he was the only one running, I wouldn’t vote. He is the most egotistical tyrant in the history of MS politics. His next “career” move will be PRESIDENT of his home owners’ association. That’s about all he’s cut out for. Later Tater!
We pretty much know where Hood stands on taxes, entitlements and the empire of publicly funded jobs.
After all this time, I can't say we have a clue where Tate stands on anything and we have even less information on Waller.
If the election were tomorrow, I'd have to vote for Waller. But, as with my vote for Trump, that would only be a vote AGAINST the other candidates.
And I don't know a soul who would sit still and respond to a telephone pole or poll.
"Tate wins...Hood gets painted as loving the new Democratic Socialist Party while Waller will be looking for cheddar to compete."
Wait a minute? Mississippi is practically functioning as a one-party state, comparable to China, where the Communist Party sets all the policies. Just because Mississippi is run by a poltical party with a different name, doesn't change how the two execute power to set their will over the people in the Commonwealth!?
You can sell those "Democratic Socialist" boogeyman tactics somewhere else - while we are literally ruled by one party in this state.
I think Reeves' poll is about right. Anyone carrying a (D) behind their name these days is going to struggle in a conservative state with everyone but the entitlement folks who are totally one dimensional.
Tate’s Tenure of Terror will soon be over.
I live in Rankin County and have pretty much voted republican for the last 20+ years, and I can't say that I've run across a single person anywhere that will admit that he/she likes Tater. I honestly don't know who his supporters/base are. Does anybody know? I'll be supporter Waller, and if ends up not beating Tater in the primary, I will just write-in somebody's name in the general election. I will NOT vote for Tater or Hood, period!
I agree with both 6:14pm and 7:07 pm.
In reading the report, it seems they polled with the assumption that the favorability of the current administration will favor Reeves personally.
I suspect they may have overlooked the anomaly of Mississippi politics... our small population. We are more likely to have a lifetime of personal histories with the individual candidates. So negative or positive interactions with a candidate over a lifetimes can result in overcoming party loyalty.
If a candidate was a jerk to you in high school or college or as a neighbor or you know of sleazy behavior, you aren't going to vote for him or her regardless of your party loyalty and vice versa.
I don't think polls will be predictive in this race as one candidate is personable and fellow well met and one is not. It depends on whether the " not" have offended enough people who tell their personal experiences to others.
While Waller is a great potential candidate....you should remember that he has NOT officially qualified. AND there is a GOP candidate other than Reeves--Robert Foster is running and has the right motive and is so passionate about what he believes in and why he believes it. As of now, he has my total support and my vote!
Go check out his website at foster4ms.com
Tate Wins....the business community is scared of Hood ...so are unborn Mississippians.
Who is Robert Foster?
He is a pipe dreamer.
Just reading the news that District 22 has been determined by a federal judge to be racially imbalanced. Even though blacks have a majority, it ain't major enough so it has to be redrawn to give black more of a majority than they already have.
Makes me wonder what the feds will do with Mississippi as a whole, to ensure a democrat has a chance to be elected, statewide. Maybe it'll be similar to the congressional action taken in the day of Ole Abe but democrat votes will count 1.5 as much as republican votes. Don't scoff!
Polls this early are meaningless.
Poll Kat, don't laugh. That is exactly what some democrats and progressives want to do. They want to do away with the electoral college because they know that the the big inner cities are who will vote for Democrats/Progressives/etc. and if they can get rid of the EC and make it strictly go on the popular vote, they will control the votes from here on out with those areas siliencing the less populated areas of the US. The Mayor of Jackson's wife(Rukia Lumumba) has a picture on her facbook of a group called "the movement for black lives". In it there is a whole section about basically propping someone up and coaching them "Through an intensive cohort and coaching process, 12 Black organizers will be resourced to serve as campaign managers for the 2018-2019 election cycle to gain progressive candidate and advocacy campaign wins in their cities." Interesting read that I would have never known about without a picture.
https://ejp.m4bl.org/electoral-justice-league/
Also, there is a group in MS called Southern Echo. They are big into the redistricting game.
http://www.southernecho.org/Redistricting/redistricting.html
I wish Keegan Foxx would run for for Governor. She would be a breath of fresh air and would probably win as a maverick outsider.
Unfortunately she might not be able to afford the pay cut as governor.
Nice, long comment. Nope, doesn't belong on this thread. Post it in the Repost posted below about Redistricting.
Poll Kat, don't laugh. That is exactly what some democrats and progressives want to do. They want to do away with the electoral college because they know that the the big inner cities are who will vote for Democrats/Progressives/etc.
Good lord the political minions in this state have been drinking the "conservative" kool-aid for so long they can't even think for themselves. You simply vote for the white fella with an (R) behind his name and go about repeating everything he said on the campaign trail as the gospel truth?
Frank Wilhoit said it best - There is no such thing as liberalism — or progressivism, etc.
There is only conservatism. No other political philosophy actually exists; by the political analogue of Gresham’s Law, conservatism has driven every other idea out of circulation.
There might be, and should be, anti-conservatism; but it does not yet exist. What would it be? In order to answer that question, it is necessary and sufficient to characterize conservatism. Fortunately, this can be done very concisely.
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit:
There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
There is nothing more or else to it, and there never has been, in any place or time.
For millennia, conservatism had no name, because no other model of polity had ever been proposed. “The king can do no wrong.” In practice, this immunity was always extended to the king’s friends, however fungible a group they might have been. Today, we still have the king’s friends even where there is no king (dictator, etc.). Another way to look at this is that the king is a faction, rather than an individual.
Look at Mississippi, the GOP is that faction - look at who has been elected to office Fordice, Barbour, Bryant, Reeves, and now Trump. The GOP holds damn every statewide office, county & city positions across the state. That is truly One-party rule, that's not good governance, that is a cult!?
Freaking Dolt #45 is declaring a state of emergency giving a major middle finger to the check in our Democracy and a bunch of Trump MAGAT's are all over the local television polls saying they support him!? How much dumber can the electorate get!?
Before you know it the next so-called President, Governor, Lt. Governor will ignore the election results and just go for the power grab because the legislature will be comprised of a majority of the same political party as the candidate and they will give him/her the political means to do it!? What will you jokers do then, sit there holding your little Vienna weenies wondering how it happened!? We are one good election from an Autocracy after the sh*t #45 has pulled off today! Get a freakin' clue!
Please give 4:37 back the money he paid for that latte at Starbucks. It either was dosed with piss-water or some chemical agent that forced him to think like Tom Head. The only alternative is that he is indeed Tom Head.
Tom doesn't even use that kind of language in anything he posts. KF knows who I am and he knows I'm not Tom. Hell, I know Tom and I have my gripes with him and the rest of the little Jackson hipsters! They are just as bad as Phil, Taterous Maximus, Foster, and Lucien Smith. They all think they're the smartest people in the room and want to control the narrative!
But back to you Tristan! I dont drink no freaking Starbucks either. I can make my own damn coffee. I'm a beer drinking, Crown Royal sipping son of a gun that sees sh*t differently than the Mississippi GOP cult minions.
Damn shame when the majority of the citizens in this state are a bunch of dumb a**es that dont even have the discernment to know when they are being sold a bunch of bullsh*t. But when someone speaks against the power structure and challenges their little bubble of ignorance they get all freakin' fragile.
It's no wonder why this place stays in 50th!? Too many people, like you, are comfortable in a state of ignorant bliss.
Keep on drinking the Kool-aid Tristan!
For all that want to comment, without bothering to read the details, they should note that this poll was done before Waller announced his intent to run. However, because it was a possibility, a good campaign would poll the various candidates.
The less than obvious question is why would Waller run as a Repub? There was much discussion whether he would run, and if so - as a Repub, Dem, or an Independent?
Any support he may have at this point is evenly divided between Republican voters and Dems. His best bet would have been to take on Hood in the Dem primary where Hood has little money at this point and some serious issues in the black voter community - especially in populous Hinds County. Those same Hinds County voters particularly, but also throughout the state, could move to Waller easily based on, if nothing else, his Dad's term as DA and as Gov.
Beating Hood in August and then taking on Tate in November would allow him to benefit from his crossover appeal. Only problem with this approach is that those that have been whispering in his ear (Josh and FrontStrat ?) wouldn't accomplish their goal which is to have an opponent against his favorite enemy, Tate. And we all know that it is very important that "the Hand" needs someone other than Tate in the Governor's office to continue his financial use of the office.
Hey Tom, go check out the video of the Hinds County board of supervisors and the meeting over redistricting posted above. This is a power grab. This is paying he head of the NAACP $40,000 to draw up what would no doubt be fair voting districts and telling the few people who found out about the meeting to go do themselves. The "cult" you speak of are a result of people voting for the candidate they believe most reflects their own opinions and beliefs. Show me how you're not a hypocrite by telling me they did everything they could to hide that meeting from the public and followed none of the acceptable guidelines required by law to alert the public so they could be there. Tell me you believe beyond a doubt that hiring the head of the NAACP in Mississippi is an obvious and direct conflict of interest. Then you can tell me how republicans, by way of their simple election, is a cult in Mississippi
7:19 pm There can be multiple cults in existence at the same time.
Actually, Mississippi is a victim of tribalism with all the members of the tribe being " right fighters" and "true believers". It's not unlike Afghanistan in that respect. Different factions cannot work together for the progress and modernization of the whole. If one tribes wins , another loses and it's just a matter of tallying columns of wins and loses in an endless war than never ends. But, in both cases, " failed state" is the best description.
It can be as silly as Ole Miss people and MS State people stereotyping one another with USM as the blue collar step-child. Even then, the social impact can be toxic. Sillier still are the divisions and stereotypes that exist within those tribes based on Greek affliations , financial contributions, contribution to sports, etc.
The tribes have geographical identification as well with the Delta believing they are superior to all and with Central Mississippi , the Coast and Northeast rejecting that notion and any hint they are seen as the lowest on the totem pole. All are vying for in a struggle for both limited resources and a change in perceived status.
Or, it is as serious and deadly as racial tribalism and religion divides between evangelicals and mainstream Christians.
God forbid that we should just people based on their earned achievements and character or political positions based on facts and sound logic. Choose the tribal belief du jour instead!
The only candidate who would have a chance of making a good impression nationally and thus helping Mississippi is Bill Waller but in the current climate, even a little polish is too shiny.
Right on 'Nazi'. You're the same one who constantly chirps about being number 50 who, odd as it is, wants to return government in Mississippi and America to democrats. Deluded, broken damned record. Tristan, indeed.
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