Friday, February 9, 2018

Gipson defends gun rights bill.

State Representative published the following post on Mississippi Truth Journal about the "Gun Lawsuit Bill", HB# 1083:


Myth: “House Bill 1083 will allow guns on campus and in stadiums.”

Fact: Mississippi’s campus carry law for trained “enhanced carry” licensees actually predates the tenure of a number of university presidents and athletic personnel. Since 2011, campus carry/athletic event carry has been the law.

Recent pronouncements by some state agencies and agency officials against House Bill 1083 imply that somehow this bill will “allow guns on campuses and in athletic events.” These allegations have, in many cases, been made by state agency officials who may be fairly new residents of the State of Mississippi. Some assertions have been made by major out-of-state organizations. While we welcome all new residents to our State, the truth is that seven years ago Mississippi enacted a concealed carry law for “campus carry” including in college facilities and at athletic events.

During the 2011 Regular Legislative Session, House Bill 506 passed the Mississippi Legislature (House and Senate) with no dissenting votes. That bill (which created campus carry for “instructor-certified” trained concealed carry permit holders) was signed by then-Governor Haley Barbour on March 11, 2011, and became effective July 1, 2011. A copy of that bill is available here, http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/documents/2011/pdf/HB/0500-0599/HB0506SG.pdf and the changes to the law are included as underlined language beginning on lines 89 and following.

The facts are, in the State of Mississippi since 2011:

A person licensed under Section 45-9-101 to carry a concealed pistol, who has voluntarily completed an instructional course in the safe handling and use of firearms offered by an instructor certified by a nationally recognized organization that customarily offers firearms training, or by any other organization approved by the Department of Public Safety, shall also be authorized to carry weapons in courthouses except in courtrooms during a judicial proceeding, and any location listed in subsection (13) of Section 45-9-101, except any place of nuisance as defined in Section 95-3-1, any police, sheriff or highway patrol station or any detention facility, prison or jail. The department shall promulgate rules and regulations allowing concealed pistol permit holders to obtain an endorsement on their permit indicating that they have completed the aforementioned course and have the authority to carry in these locations.

Miss. Code Ann. § 97-37-7(2) (emphasis added).

For those curious as to the locations “listed in subsection (13) of Section 45-9-101),” those locations were, and under current law remain as follows:

. . . any place of nuisance as defined in Section 95-3-1, Mississippi Code of 1972; any police, sheriff or highway patrol station; any detention facility, prison or jail; any courthouse; any courtroom, except that nothing in this section shall preclude a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon in his courtroom; any polling place; any meeting place of the governing body of any governmental entity; any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof; any school, college or professional athletic event not related to firearms; any portion of an establishment, licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, that is primarily devoted to dispensing alcoholic beverages; any portion of an establishment in which beer or light wine is consumed on the premises, that is primarily devoted to such purpose; any elementary or secondary school facility; any junior college, community college, college or university facility unless for the purpose of participating in any authorized firearms-related activity; inside the passenger terminal of any airport, except that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal if the firearm is encased for shipment, for purposes of checking such firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft; any church or other place of worship, except as provided in Section 45-9-171; or any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law.

Miss. Code Ann. § 45-9-101(13) (emphasis added).

It is a complete fabrication and myth that House Bill 1083 will “allow guns on campuses” in Mississippi. Whether House Bill 1083 lives or dies, campus carry by trained license holders is already the law and has been the law for nearly seven years. Mississippi’s campus carry law for trained licensees predates a number of university presidents and athletic personnel.

The only thing House Bill 1083 does is to propose the following process for these lawfully trained licensees who encounter illegal agency gun rules or bans. The process under House Bill 1083, as approved by the Mississippi House of Representatives, is as follows as indicated on lines 149 through 181 of the bill:

(4) (a) A person licensed to carry a concealed pistol or revolver with the endorsement under Section 97-37-7, who is adversely affected by a rule, regulation, policy, or posted written notice adopted by an agency, entity, or person in violation of this section may file suit for declarative and injunctive relief against the agency, entity, or person in the circuit court which shall have jurisdiction over the location where the violation of this section occurs.

(b) Before instituting suit under this subsection, the party adversely impacted by the rule, regulation, policy, or posted written notice shall notify the Attorney General in writing of the violation and include evidence of the violation. The Attorney General shall, within thirty (30) days, investigate whether the agency, entity, or person adopted a rule, regulation, policy, or posted written notice in violation of this section and provide the appropriate authority notice of his findings, including, if applicable, a description of the violation and specific language of the rule, regulation, policy, or posted written notice found to be in violation. The agency, entity, or person shall have thirty (30) days from receipt of that notice to cure the violation. If the agency, entity, or person fails to cure the violation within that thirty-day time period, a suit under paragraph (a) of this subsection may proceed. The findings of the Attorney General shall constitute a “Public Record” as defined by the Mississippi Public Records Act of 1983, Section 25-61-1 et seq.

(c) If the circuit court finds that an agency, entity, or person adopted a rule, regulation, policy, or posted written notice in violation of this section and failed to cure that violation in accordance with paragraph (b) of this subsection, the circuit court shall issue a permanent injunction against an agency, entity, or person prohibiting the enforcement of the rule, regulation, policy, or posted written notice.

House Bill 1083, lines 149 through 181 (as passed the Mississippi House of Representatives), 2018 Regular Session.

To many Mississippians, the real question is why some university leaders are only now recognizing the legality of campus carry? What do you think?

65 comments:

Anonymous said...

What do I think? I think you are a hypocritical cretin who would legislate us back to the stone age if possible, keep all women barefoot and pregnant, and enshrine your fundamentalist religion into state law. The most deeply disturbing fact about you is that you are not dumb. But you are a con man. What your bill does is allows anyone who holds an enhanced concealed carry permit to sue anyone who doesn't allow that person entrance to his property. If I don't want you to come into my home or on my land with a gun, you can sue me and get an injunction requiring me to let you into my home. That is about the most ass backwards, anti-conservative thing I could imagine. You who supported institutional bigotry in HB 1023 on the grounds that the government shouldn't be allowed to discriminate against business owners who refused to serve gay people. Think about the hypocrisy of those two bills: the one says that the government cannot require someone to serve gay people, but it can require someone to come onto your property with a firearm. You have to have a large imagination to think of ways to make Mississippi look dumber. You, sir, excel in that position.

Anonymous said...

Its time for Rep Rev Gipson to retire back to his off the grid (that is, until he wanted to get married) home in Simpson County. Mississippi already has plenty of good pro-gun legislation; none of us are in jeopardy of losing any of our good 2nd Amendment rights. But the MS House has put up with enough of his foolishness, wanting to tout his gun/knife arguments year after year - worse than playing the fiddle - while MS burns.

I know he loves the dazzlement that many of his ardent supporters pour onto him - just as his counterpart in the Senate, Hizzhonor McDaniel does with his constant barrage of whatever nutcase argument seems to be in vogue on a particular day. But just as is the case with McD, the state as a whole is tired of his constant stream of guns and God legislation.

But he loves it - in fact has spent all of the past two days claiming that his counterpart Rep Young from Meridian should be locked up for "brandishing" his weapon and threatening the peanut gallery. Nobody else in the House saw it this way, but it adds to Andy's charm to throw more gasoline onto the flame I guess.

Finding a reason for this legislation is tough - guess it was the only new thing he could pull out of the pile to have a gun bill this year. Hell, even the NRA is tired of his crap.

Anonymous said...

Perfect 2:40pm - can't say it any better than that. GIbson is a complete embarrassment.

Anonymous said...

Gipson is a text book NUT JOB. And this is from a lifetime NRA member.

Kingfish said...

Part of the problem is caused by several vague AG opinions. A bill to clean them up is not a bad idea. Don't think this is it.

Anonymous said...

If a person thinks just because they have a gun they can come on to my property they will soon have a need for that gun.

Anonymous said...

How does this homophobic clown still have a job at a large regional-type law firm? Why haven't their clients been subjected to scrutiny for giving money to support a firm that employs a bigoted, hateful lunatic who ignores reason and logic in favor of more guns anywhere and everywhere?

Anonymous said...

We don't need a bill to 'clean up AG opinions'. AG opinions are just that, opinions. Courts exist to deal with difference of opinion and violations of law, and, if necessary to rule on constitutionality. The legislature should not be asked to creatively deal with creative opinions of another division of government. We have too many dunces under the dome to expect that. They can't even agree on a method for dealing with dog killers.

Kingfish said...

3:00: And that is where I disagree with you. You're crap is destroying society and political discourse today. Someone disagrees with you, oh hell no, that person shouldn't have a right to earn a living or even eat. Hell, he shouldn't even exist. I bet you also support ban the box, in other words, you support criminals getting jobs but someone who doesn't think like you should be cast out to starve to death.

Politics of personal destruction has come a long way, baby. You should be proud.

Anonymous said...

If a private business or its private clients find it disreputable to employ this neanderthal, they can certainly fire him if they want. I don't have any opinion one way or the other on that because it's none of my damn business. The only job I want him to lose is his job in the Mississippi House of Representatives. His policies are toxic and humiliating.

Anonymous said...

Thank you Rep. Gipson for this bill. The liberal universities are attempting to torpedo this bill by bringing athletics into the mix because it's the only way they can appeal to average voters. Please stand your ground on this and support our constitutional rights to carry on PUBLIC PROPERTY. This bill does NOT impact private property, despite uninformed comments on this post.

Anonymous said...

3:00 here. Never said I support him being fired. Just shocked it hasn't happened given his shocking positions on social issues and others.

Anonymous said...

I think there's real confusion on some of the posts as to what the current law is. If someone with an enhanced carry permit comes onto your property and you ask them to leave and they don't, you can have them arrested for trespassing, but not for carrying a concealed weapon. Same applies if your property is posted. The proposed law primarily speaks to public property when or if they are prevented from legally carrying.

Anonymous said...

Back down, KF. Don't think your interpretation of 3:00's comments are in order. He didn't raise the question of Gipson's right to work, or to eat, but wondered aloud why his reasonable employer puts up with his crap. Or why their clients put up with it. Granted, Gipson is a reasonably smart attorney - and most of his legal work probably doesn't get to the edge of his legislative stupidity. Nowhere did 3:00 suggest that he shouldn't eat, or exist.

Besides, that's off the mark of this question - Gipson asked for opinions of his legislation. Maybe he is getting them from others than his FB support group.

Anonymous said...

Well, pitchforks aren’t exactly protected by the constitution, but if they WERE I’d lobby Gipson.

Anonymous said...

Wish Gipson had decided to run for CD3 - maybe then he would learn how isolated his brand of "conservatism" really is in this state. Other than his corner of Rankin/Simpson, and those folks over in Smith, his support would be non-existent throughout the rest of the area.

Liquored Up said...

Pretty certain one can purchase beer and wine inside Tiger Stadium down at LSU. So for Mississippi, it's a simple fix. Serve beer and wine at Vaught Hemmingway, Davis Wade and the MS Memorial Stadium. NO guns where there is alcohol being served. Problem solved!

Wow said...

What does the data say? I wish there was a way to look at the number of gun crimes / violent gun crimes committed by Mississippi Enhanced Carry holders over the past 10 years.

I would guess the violent gun crimes by this subgroup would be very low.

This is one of the only ways to assess risk and have real discourse on the issue. Not all the fear mongering about guns at collegiate athletic events.

Assuming the risk is very low, then this would give water to the argument that something needs to be done about the way lawful, enhanced permit holders are treated at certain events.

Anonymous said...

Same tired 2-3 harpies over and over again.

Anonymous said...

5:01, I assume your fact/statistic is correct. I also assume that many, many enhanced carry holders have carried into VH, DW, TadPad/Pavillion, The Hump, etc over the past several years. In fact, I know of some that have been carried in, just as I know of some that have been carried onto the floor of the House other than Rep. Younge. In both instances - yours and mine - it points out that this is an answer without a problem. Other than wanting to make a point, allowing folks to sue a public body for 'insulting their dignity' or whatever the problem is, there has not been a problem with this before Andy needed something else to rail about this year.

Just as there have been few if any gun crimes/violent crimes committed by EC holders, how many folks have been turned away from an athletic venue on our state campuses over the past several years? Just as they say guns are not allowed, they also say alcohol is not allowed. But let me assure you - both are present and unless one is being obnoxious they haven't been evicted for either.

Anonymous said...

2:40 - Where exactly in current law or the proposed bill does it "...require someone to come onto your property with a firearm?"

Anonymous said...

If Gibson is correct, SEC commish and university presidents are late to the dance. If the bill in question is not passed, guns continue to be allowed on campus?

Anonymous said...

As KF said, current law jan not clear and universities asked for opinion from AG that says they have right to determine where and where not guns can go on campus, permit or not. Universities have established such policies that say private areas in Claude stadiums, classrooms, dorm rooms, etc, and public areas are like student unions, The Grove, The Junction, etc. if you look at proposed bill, in addition to establishing a procedure to challenge those who deny EHC holders, like 117 says that any constitutional bodies (IHL)!no longer have authors to issue such policy.

So while current law hasn’t changed, universities are blatantly breaking law like Gipson claims.

If law is not passed, universities will continue enforcing policies established under AG opinion, and pro gun groups will challenge in court.

Anonymous said...

Gipson said on Supertalk today that SEC was being hypocritical because other states have campus carry, specifically Texas. SEC letter clearly said sports venues, and did not weigh into other areas. And Texas A&M can demy permit holders from entering stadium. If this bill would pass, Mississippi schools would be only members of SEC forced to admit those with guns, as other schools have bans in place

Anonymous said...

One of the most dangerous things any firearm owner can do is to leave their firearm in a vehicle. They might as well leave it on the sidewalk. I hold a valid MS Firearm permit and have the IC endorsement. I respect the few places where I am prohibited from carrying. The problem is for an out of town event in Hattiesburg, Oxford or Starkville if I leave my firearm at home then I am unprotected while traveling to and from the event. Many times this includes traveling late at night on dark roads, something I will not do. If the SEC and schools are determined to stop legal carrying of firearms in stadiums perhaps they should install a secure locker/vault system where we could deposit our weapon upon entering the stadium and retrieve it when departing. I don't want to carry into the stadium because I don't feel safe but rather because I will not leave my firearm in my vehicle where it is likely to be stolen. Something for them to think about.

Anonymous said...

Whether you agree with his politics or not -- he's right.

This has been the law for THE LAST SEVEN YEARS. When it was going through the legislative process, all the Chicken Little Liberals screamed that if it passed, there'd be rivers of blood, shootouts at high noon, and every argument would inevitably end in a gunfight!!

It didn't happen. It's not about to happen. Statistically, CCP holders are less likely to commit a crime than LEOs.

Who are these overwrought hand wringers?

Anonymous said...

I read somewhere recently that all the statistics on gun deaths and gun violence include suicide by gun and that the self inflected gun shots account for 65% of these statistics. Talk about skewing statistics, this is the perfect example. I am hoping that my church has an armed person in every service; have not asked, but I feel it is the responsible thing to have, even in church.

StarRider said...

Bah. It's been established by studies in Texas and Florida that concealed carry permit holders commit crimes at a rate less then police officers. When Mississippi began to allow concealed carry we were told in no uncertain terms that it would result in chaos, blood in the streets. When open carry was introduced the "progressives" made the same predictions. The murder rate continues to decrease; outside of the disaster that Jackson has become homicide is still fairly uncommon except for domestic disputes. Private property owners should and will still have the right to determine if people can legally carry on their property, but government clerks will no longer be able to disarm citizens in publicly owned spaces and buildings. As it should be.

Anonymous said...

7:54 So Gipson is wrong on current rules on IC permits on campus? Maybe courts should decide once and for all.

Anonymous said...

Andy Gipson strikes again - another year, another legislative session, and Andy finds another way to try and return Mississippi to the wild wild west.

That fella is tone deaf and should be relegated to his homestead in Simpson/Rankin County.

Anonymous said...

@7:54 - I know you'll try to blame it on something like 'fat thumbs', but, what the hell is a 'Claude stadium' what did you mean when you posted, "...constitutional bodies (IHL)! no longer have authors to issue policy"?

You should also make note that 'places like the Grove and the Junction' are not the only public areas of college campuses - they're not even the most prominent or primary of public areas. Other than private offices, dorm rooms and restricted areas, the entire campus is a public area.

Anonymous said...

For those of you who are pointing out that alcohol is not served at games or on campus except at LSU, plenty of alcohol is drunk before and after games.

It is drunk at restaurants and apartments. It is drunk at tailgate parties and at tents as those who have those parties and their guests cannot all be checked.

And, there are plastic flasks that can be brought into a game in coat pockets or a boot or under a hat.

And, you all see to forget that those who open carry are not required to take drug tests on a regular basis. Nor can you guarantee they will not have Alzheimer's or dementia if they are older. They could also be a bright 22 year old that was functioning well until simple schizophrenia hit.

Do remember that the legal standard for crazy or incompetent is " a danger to themselves or others" which requires an action you can prove that they've hurt themselves . You won't even be able to protect them from predators who want to steal from them.

But, do continue to pretend that all those who have guns are responsible and sane and that the rest of us shouldn't be concerned about the 18% of adults with mental illness or the 24 million in this country with dementia or the 50% who have below average IQs.









Anonymous said...

6:37, line 117 of the bill states that boards and bodies who have set such policies, like IHL, no longer have the authority to do such.

Anonymous said...

When I went to Ms. State in the early 70's, it was almost required that if you owned a pick up truck, you had a shotgun rack and long guns by the back window.

Anonymous said...

the mississippi legislature used to meet for the 31 days of january . historically this was because the states primary business was agriculture, and the crop was in and the planting had not yet started. nowadays the legislature is a full-time industry and the sessions last from january till july and sometimes even beyond that. BTW, mississippi has the largest legislature in the nation per capita. its bigger that the legislature of california which has 10% of the population of the country. these professional politicians arrive in jackson to be met by their lobbyist buddies who have total control over them, and who ply them with booze, women, ticos steaks and just about anything else they want. no wonder they dont want to adjourn. this is in a state of a mere 3 million people. but by far, their greatest talent lies in solving problems that dont exist, and this clown , rep gibson ,is a classic example.

Anonymous said...

to 8;23... feb9..... dear mr firearms expert, tell us why having a firearm in a vehicle is such a bad idea.

Anonymous said...

This bill, like the bill Rep. Gipson introduces a few sessions ago that "clarified" the state's stance on open carry, is being made out to be much more impactful than it really is. Let's review. A bill was duly passed and signed into law in 2011 that allows ECC permit holders to carry a concealed weapon on campus. Prominent scaredy cats promptly wrangled an opinion out of their buddy the AG that supported them breaking this law in certain circumstances. The current bill simply gives a better option to the people who wish to challenge the policies that break the 2011 law. Nothing more, nothing less.

Madam Franuchump said...

More useful and frank discussion here on both sides of the argument than is ever generated by having 5 reporters under the dome day in and day out.

Anonymous said...

nowadays the legislature is a full-time industry and the sessions last from january till july ...

And you want to be taken seriously?

Anonymous said...

Legislature, full-time job? Like Texas which meets biannually, a state with nearly ten times our population and over five times our land area.
Try again.

StarRider said...

@ 3:48...I'd suggest you're the one that's tone deaf. We went from not being able to carry under any circumstances, even in a vehicle, to being able to carry concealed without a permit in most places. We've been hearing the "Wild Wild West" drivel the whole time, which has not happened. This will be a total non-issue, just like it always has been.

Anonymous said...

We don't need both the senate and the house in Mississippi. I understand the national need for 2 houses. We need about 30 responsible people to make the laws who do so for only their expenses and no participation in the state retirement. Limit their time, money, and gifts like food and alcohol from lobbyists. WE CAN NOT AFFORD IT. It is broken and needs to be fixed. If someone will run for Gov. or Lt. Gov. with this platform, I will support them and so will many others.

Anonymous said...

Why all the hub bub? The law says you can. All they can do is not let you in. Either don't carry or sue the college. Don't know why you would carry to a football game any way unless you are in Jackson or some other place where you have to park in a dangerous place. That's understandable.

Anonymous said...

Easy fix. Make the colleges prepare lockers for everyone bringing guns to the game. Have security guard the lockers. Same thing cops do when they go to a jail or a prison. Game over, get gun, walk to car with defense on your side. Everybody is happy and safe.

Anonymous said...

12:30, my nephew goes to Texas A&M and that’s that they do at his form.....have a locker for
him to rent to store his firearm

Anonymous said...

The theocratic statist troll from south Rankin strikes again. HB1523, killing DV as grounds for divorce, an anti-vaxx bill, and now this. What terrible piece of legislation will come next?

Anonymous said...

Liquored Up problem solver at 4:55 needs to run a political think-tank. Props to you!

Anonymous said...

@9:53 AM

Read my post again. I said nothing about "having" a firearm in a vehicle. I said "leaving" a firearm, as unattended, in a vehicle. That is the easiest way to have one stolen.

Anonymous said...

Feb 10 @ 9:34 - if you bothered to get any, just any, detail in your comments to be correct it might make some significant contribution to this conversation. But, you start from a totally wrong historical fact (used to meet 31 days in January), jump to the Jan-July - and sometimes later - misstep, to the professional politician concept of the legislature. Actually, there are a few members whose only 'occupation' is legislator, but it is a very small group. Your concept of the lobbyists and their liquoring them up is almost laughable; yes, there are lobbyists and yes they ply their trade. But the three ring circus you imagine that they can't wait to get here to join is a joke. Thanks for your comments though, but next time how about trying to get a few details correct when you opine

Anonymous said...

At Mississippi State (and probably other elite schools in our state) the gentrified upper-crust, those who have the high dollar tickets at 'Club Level',up high in the stadium where the glass windows are, can rent a locker in which to store their whiskey. This way they don't have to tote it in on game day. No alcohol at these games allowed? Think again. If the school can provide lockers for whiskey, why not for handguns?

Anonymous said...

Why does Mississippi continue to do certain things first that make us look last!

You Cheap Ticket Holders Shaddup.. said...

You can betchur ass there are pistolas in abundance at the Club Level, in the Corporate Box-Seat Suites as well as the areas where the president, athletic directors of both schools and other men in purple togas gather to swill whiskey and eat three-dollar deviled eggs and Oysters-Rockie-Felker.

Anonymous said...

Madam Franuchump
It's a bad idea because it's not hard for thieves to break into vehicles. They just have to break the glass.
Thieves who do this look for guns to sell.
It's an especially bad idea if you transport children or have children with access to the vehicles. Children kill other children with the guns they find in their family car.
Get it now?
If not, please turn in your firearms to the nearest law enforcement dept. No, do that anyway as you are too dense to be a responsible gun owner.

Anonymous said...

10:00 - I agree with most of your post and I'm a safety nut; however,I'm trying to recall the last time I read or heard about a child killing another child with a gun he found in the family car.

Anonymous said...

feb 10 @5;09 is obviously a lobbyist who does not want anyone to understand that lobbying is nothing but legalized bribery. also he gets a F in the history of the mississippi legislature.

Anonymous said...

feb 10 at 5;09,,,,,,,, "the 3 ring circus that you imagine"..........the Mississippi legislature is a 3 ring circus, and you are obviously one of the clowns.

Kingfish said...

Most of the lobbyists I know hate going to Tico's when the leg is in session. It means they will get mugged if they walk in the door. Ten legislators will say heeeeeeeeey..... So and so lobbyist will take care of it. While everyone gripes about lobbyists bribing legislators, alot of times it is the other way around, the legislators are extorting them.

StarRider said...

Good gracious 10:00, they have little lock boxes that you buy and bolt inside the vehicle that protect the firearm while affording rapid access by code or fingerprint. It's the 2010's, get with the program. You might look into a lesson or two in civility while you're at it.

Anonymous said...

Dear StarRider,

And what happens when the vehicle is stolen? Do honestly think these "little lock boxes" of which you speak can't be pried open? While they say they are for vehicles the truth is they are a safety device for storing a firearm to keep youngsters from gaming access. My firearm has and will continue to say on my side so that when I need to protect my family or myself it will be within quick reach.

Dee Ray said...

"We went from not being able to carry under any circumstances, even in a vehicle..."

Star Rider @ 12:11 - When was that?

Dee Ray said...

"We went from not being able to carry under any circumstances, even in
a vehicle..."

Star Rider at 12:11 - Pray tell; When was that?

Anonymous said...

Mississippi is either 2nd or 4th in gun deaths per 100000 people depending on whether you count suicide. We lead the nation in gun deaths of children 0-18 and also for women.

Apparently, only more deer are killed with fire arms than women and children.

But, y'all keep getting y'all's stats from that unbiased NRA who gets lots of money from gun manufacturers and believe whatever a politician tells you.

And, don't worry, Congress is fixing this. All states and localities will have to respect all other states gun licenses as if they were drivers license. The police will just check to see if the armed guy at the game is from Alaska. So much for states rights or localities having any rights...Big Brother wants to make sure you have a gun. After all, it's working so well in Afghanistan, Iraq and the continent of Africa. Assault rifles for all!

Anonymous said...

Mississippi is either 2nd or 4th in gun deaths per 100000 people depending on whether you count suicide. We lead the nation in gun deaths of children 0-18 and also for women.

Link?

Anonymous said...

This thread, with the comments regarding the potential to be shot going to, or from an athletic event is ridiculous - this doesn't happen, hasn't been a problem, and isn't a real threat. The comments aren't supported by any history of any shooting issues for people coming to or from events. Please think about your comments in context with anything (nothing)that has happened in the past at these eventsu. There are adequate law enforcement officers who have been trained in defending the attendees at all collegiate athletic events. This is a straw man issue. Let's support the intercollegiate athletics with good defensive legal representatives there in the stadium!

StarRider said...

Look into it a little deeper and you'll find that Jackson's gun death rate is the main reason Mississippi's is so high. The very rural COUNTY where I live had exactly two homicides last year, both domestic incidents.

10:15, you don't ever have to go to the post office? Jury duty? Obviously you're taking a chance on having a pretty serious criminal charge dropped in your lap if what you say is true. Good luck with that.

Dee Ray, thankfully a long time ago. The Attorney General's opinion that concealed carry in a car without a permit was issued in 1991. Before that any carry in a vehicle could be prosecuted, as some part of the firearm was considered concealed. (Even hanging it from a string from the rearview mirror, as that part of the firearm under the string would have been concealed...i.e. "in whole or in part"). As far as I know the law was rarely enforced, but it was sometimes stacked on when a miscreant was messing up, driving drunk or otherwise causing trouble. MS Code 97-37-1(2) is the statute that allows it by specifically allowing carry in a motor vehicle.

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Wrestling returns, except this time it will be a Battle Royal with Othor Cain, Ben Allen, Kim Wade, Haley Fisackerly, Alan Lange, and “Big Cat” Donna Ladd all in the ring at the same time. The Battle Royal will be in a steel cage, no time limit, no referee, and the losers must leave town. Marshand Crisler will be the honorary referee (as it gives him a title without actually having to do anything).


Meet KIM Waaaaaade at the Entergy Tent. For five pesos, Kim will sell you a chance to win a deed to a crack house on Ridgeway Street stuffed in the Howard Industries pinata. Don't worry if the pinata is beaten to shreds, as Mr. Wade has Jose, Emmanuel, and Carlos, all illegal immigrants, available as replacements for the it. Upon leaving the Entergy tent, fig leaves will be available in case Entergy literally takes everything you have as part of its Trollfest ticket price adjustment charge.

Donna Ladd of The Jackson Free Press will give several classes on learning how to write. Smearing, writing without factchecking, and reporting only one side of a story will be covered. A donation to pay their taxes will be accepted and she will be signing copies of their former federal tax liens. Ms. Ladd will give a dramatic reading of her two award-winning essays (They received The Jackson Free Press "Best Of" awards.) "Why everything is always about me" and "Why I cover murders better than anyone else in Jackson".

In the spirit of helping those who are less fortunate, Trollfest '09 adopts a cause for which a portion of the proceeds and donations will be donated: Keeping Frank Melton in his home. The “Keep Frank Melton From Being Homeless” booth will sell chances for five dollars to pin the tail on the jackass. John Reeves has graciously volunteered to be the jackass for this honorable excursion into saving Frank's ass. What's an ass between two friends after all? If Mr. Reeves is unable to um, perform, Speaker Billy McCoy has also volunteered as when the word “jackass” was mentioned he immediately ran as fast as he could to sign up.


In order to help clean up the legal profession, Adam Kilgore of the Mississippi Bar will be giving away free, round-trip plane tickets to the North Pole where they keep their bar complaint forms (which are NOT available online). If you don't want to go to the North Pole, you can enjoy Brant Brantley's (of the Mississippi Commission on Judicial Performance) free guided tours of the quicksand field over by High Street where all complaints against judges disappear. If for some reason you are unable to control yourself, never fear; Judge Houston Patton will operate his jail where no lawyers are needed or allowed as you just sit there for minutes... hours.... months...years until he decides he is tired of you sitting in his jail. Do not think Judge Patton is a bad judge however as he plans to serve free Mad Dog 20/20 to all inmates.

Trollfest '09 is a pet-friendly event as well. Feel free to bring your dog with you and do not worry if your pet gets hungry, as employees of the Jackson Zoo will be on hand to provide some of their animals as food when it gets to be feeding time for your little loved one.

Relax at the Fox News Tent. Since there are only three blonde reporters in Jackson (being blonde is a requirement for working at Fox News), Megan and Kathryn from WAPT and Wendy from WLBT will be on loan to Fox. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both and a torn-up Obama yard sign will entitle you to free drinks served by Megan, Wendy, and Kathryn. Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required. Just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '09 is for EVERYONE!!!

This is definitely a Beaver production.


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Trollfest '07

Jackson Jambalaya is the home of Trollfest '07. Catch this great event which promises to leave NE Jackson & Fondren in flames. Sonjay Poontang and his band headline the night with a special steel cage, no time limit "loser must leave town" bout between Alan Lange and "Big Cat"Donna Ladd following afterwards. Kamikaze will perform his new song F*** Bush, he's still a _____. Did I mention there was no referee? Dr. Heddy Matthias and Lori Gregory will face off in the undercard dueling with dangling participles and other um, devices. Robbie Bell will perform Her two latest songs: My Best Friends are in the Media and Mama's, Don't Let Your Babies Grow up to be George Bell. Sid Salter of The Clarion-Ledger will host "Pin the Tail on the Trial Lawyer", sponsored by State Farm.

There will be a hugging booth where in exchange for your young son, Frank Melton will give you a loooong hug. Trollfest will have a dunking booth where Muhammed the terrorist will curse you to Allah as you try to hit a target that will drop him into a vat of pig grease. However, in the true spirit of Separate But Equal, Don Imus and someone from NE Jackson will also sit in the dunking booth for an equal amount of time. Tom Head will give a reading for two hours on why he can't figure out who the hell he is. Cliff Cargill will give lessons with his .80 caliber desert eagle, using Frank Melton photos as targets. Tackleberry will be on hand for an autograph session. KIM Waaaaaade will be passing out free titles and deeds to crackhouses formerly owned by The Wood Street Players.

If you get tired come relax at the Fox News Tent. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both will entitle you to free drinks.Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required, just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '07 is for EVERYONE!!!

This is definitely a Beaver production.

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