Wednesday, January 6, 2010

Obama admin wants to plea-bargain with terrorists?

I'm not making this up. The Washington Post reported Monday:
"President Obama's chief counterterrorism adviser on Sunday defended the administration's decision to try in federal court the man charged with attempting to bomb an airliner on Christmas Day and indicated that he would be offered a plea agreement to persuade him to reveal what he knows about al-Qaeda operations in Yemen.

Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the 23-year-old Nigerian charged with the failed attempt on the Amsterdam-to-Detroit flight, was initially "talking to people who detained him" but now has a public defender and "doesn't have to," said on "Fox News Sunday."

"We have different ways of obtaining information from individuals" in the criminal-justice process, Brennan said on NBC's "Meet the Press." "A lot of people . . . understand what they're facing, and their lawyers recognize that there is advantage to talking to us in terms of plea agreements, [and] we're going to pursue that." Brennan told CNN's "State of the Union" that other terrorism suspects have "given us very valuable information as they've gone through the plea-agreement process."

Such lunacy is what happens when you treat terrorists strictly as criminals. What is the mission? To merely throw someone in jail or stop future terrorists attacks? If it is to stop future terrorist attacks, then the last thing we need to do is allow plea-bargains with terrorists. There are reasons why the Israelis never negotiate with terrorists. Chief among them is it gives the terrorist bargaining power. One can only imagine the terrorist holding out for a better deal in exchange for information on possible attacks. Brennan naively thinks the government can lean on the "suspect" as Obama called him and obtain valuable information.

Keep in mind these are terrorists that were more than willing to go back to allah. Jail doesn't mean much to those who were on suicide missions. Al-Qaida and its ilk will simply write a new chapter for their playbook: "How to trick and fool the U.S. Government with phony plea-bargain negotiations if you get caught." They will manipulate and abuse the judicial system even further because fools like Brennan (Anyone notice the irony here?) treat these terrorists as criminal suspects.

The fourth and fifth amendment exists to protect the rights of the accused. The rights of a suspect in a criminal prosecution should be protected. That includes the right to a lawyer, the right to remain silent, and other constitutional rights. However, terrorists such as Abdulmutallab usually have a great deal of information we need immediately. There is nothing wrong with excluding any evidence gained from ignoring his constitutional protections from court. However, that does not mean we should tie our hands behind our back and use other interrogation techniques to obtain information about his terrorist network and other plots that might be in action. Plea-bargaining with terrorist is nothing but a recipe for disaster.

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

I predict that it will take at least 50,000 civilian american deaths before we start doing what we need to do. And if we're very lucky, it won't be too late. General Patton is spinning in his grave.

Anonymous said...

The only acceptable "plea bargain" is to tell the scum we won't wrap him in bacon and shoot him IF and ONLY IF he tells us everything about every one of his accomplices. Otherwise, the death penalty is back on the table.

Anonymous said...

Creative use of bacon...

Anonymous said...

Why is this not being carried out in a military way? It was the military that captured them, why must we employ our civilized ways domestically upon those who are warmongers? This appears too compassionate. And yes, I lost two folks in 9/11.

Anonymous said...

After the Coup everything will be carried out in a military way.

nmisscommenter said...

the Bush administration "plea bargained with terrorists." They struck a deal with Lind and his lawyers.

It is totally responsible for the government to say: "This is what you get if you cooperate. This is what you get if you don't." (which is what plea bargaining amounts to with the federal prosecutors)

I've not seen bigger bullshit on this blog, ever.

Anonymous said...

That is saying something NMC considering the thickness of same sometimes on your own. Though, of course, nothing there or here comes close to equaling the vast depths of fece you'll find on any given day at Y'allPolitics.

Kingfish said...

1. The government should not have plea bargained with Lind. He should have been executed. It is pitiful he wasn't put to death and that is one duty I would gladly volunteer for. Hanging, flogging, firing squad, doesn't matter. He deserved to die and still does.

2. Let me refresh your memory. Lind was ALREADY detained when there was an uprising. He was not an active participant in a plot or mission. There is a difference between the two. He was part of a group rounded up on the battlefield.

3. Activities such as the Detroit bomber may have a time element to them such as other events taking place at the same time, later that day, or soon in the future. Your position on plea bargaining ignores that fact.

Suppose it was the morning of 9/11 or better yet, 3 days before. The hijacker knows what is going on, so he sits there and starts using a court appointed lawyer to manipulate the system, knowing there is an operation in action.

You completely ignore that possibility. Jail won't mean much to someone who was going to die that morning. He'll gladly manipulate the system to his advantage if it means a few hundred or thousand die in the process.

Kingfish said...

All blogs have BS. At least none of the ones above have the anti-Semitism that used to hang out on Folo. Hamas, Iran, Putin, Assad, Lotus loved them all.



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