The expected abortion earthquake struck America today as the Supreme Court upheld Mississippi's abortion law and overturned Planned Parenthood v. Casey on a 6-3 vote. Mississippi's law bans abortions after fifteen weeks except for medical exceptions. Highlights of the opinion are:
* The Constitution does not confer a right to abortion; Roe and Casey are overruled; and the authority to regulate abortion is returned to the people and their elected representatives
* Guided by the history and tradition that map the essential components of the Nation’s concept of ordered liberty, the Court finds the Fourteenth Amendment clearly does not protect the right to an abortion. Until the latter part of the 20th century, there was no support in American law for a constitutional right to obtain an abortion. No state constitutional provision had recognized such a right. Until a few years before Roe, no federal or state court had recognized such a right. Nor had any scholarly treatise.
* The doctrine of stare decisis does not counsel continued acceptance of Roe and Casey. Stare decisis plays an important role and protects the interests of those who have taken action in reliance on a past decision. ... But stare decisis is not an inexorable command, Pearson v. Callahan, 555 U. S. 223, 233, and “is at its weakest when [the Court] interpret[s] the Constitution
* Roe conflated the right to shield information from disclosure and the right to make and implement important personal decisions without governmental interference. See Whalen v. Roe, 429 U. S. 589, 599–600. None of these decisions involved what is distinctive about abortion: its effect on what Roe termed “potential life.”
* The Court emphasizes that this decision concerns the constitutional right to abortion and no other right. Nothing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion.
* But the opinion (Casey) concluded that stare decisis, which calls for prior decisions to be followed in most instances, required adherence to what it called Roe’s “central holding”—that a State may not constitutionally protect fetal life before “viability”—even if that holding was wrong
* Casey threw out Roe’s trimester scheme and substituted a new rule of uncertain origin under which States were forbidden to adopt any regulation that imposed an “undue burden” on a woman’s right to have an abortion.11 The decision provided no clear guidance about the difference between a “due” and an “undue” burden. * The State of Mississippi asks us to uphold the constitutionality of a law that generally prohibits an abortion after the 15th week of pregnancy—several weeks before the point at which a fetus isnow regarded as “viable” outside the womb. In defendingthis law, the State’s primary argument is that we should reconsider and overrule Roe and Casey and once again alloweach State to regulate abortion as its citizens wish. On the other side, respondents and the Solicitor General ask us to reaffirm Roe and Casey, and they contend that the Mississippi law cannot stand if we do so.Governor Tate Reeves issued the following statement.
Mississippi has led the nation to overcome one of the greatest injustices in the history of our country. Our state’s historic case before the United States Supreme Court was the catalyst for overturning Roe v. Wade and has made the nation safer for children than it was just a few short hours ago.
Let’s be clear: this decision will directly result in more hearts beating, more strollers pushed, more report cards given, more little league games played, and more lives well lived. It is a joyous day! Tomorrow, we will wake to a new world, enthusiastically prepared to take on the challenges ahead and to take every step necessary to support mothers and children.
We must remember that our work is not yet over. The pro-life movement must dedicate itself to ensuring mothers and their babies receive the support they both need during pregnancy and after.
Despite what some may claim, Mississippi’s objective was never simply to win a court case – it’s been to create a culture of life across the country.
Our state seeks to be pro-life in every sense of the word – supporting mothers and children through policies of compassion and working to ensure that every baby has a forever family that loves them.
Mississippi will work relentlessly to accomplish these goals and will continue to build a culture that supports mothers and children, valuing the inherent dignity of every individual. This is our new pro-life agenda.
I applaud the Supreme Court Justices for their courage in issuing this well-reasoned decision. It took bravery to stick to the courage of their convictions, especially amidst an unprecedented leak that was aimed at threatening the integrity of the Court, an assassination attempt, riot threats, and attacks on churches and pregnancy centers. No matter one’s party or ideology, we should all be able to condemn these acts.
I pray that Americans will come together, listen to one another, and debate this issue peacefully. Only by moving beyond our divisions and having respectful conversations can we begin to heal this nation's wounds.
We stand on the shoulders of giants. This win has been achieved thanks to the tireless efforts of so many over decades. Thank you to the lawyers who argued this case for us, passionate citizens who pushed this issue for years, and those who prayed for this day for many decades. I urge my fellow Mississippians to rejoice today and keep praying as the work is not done.
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With this, and the New York Conceal Carry case, it's a rough week for the left. Maybe we are getting this country back in the right direction!
So now please tell us what will be done to prevent the horrible acts againt women who will now be beaten, shot, shipped out of town to deliver, and thrown out of the house for being pregnant. This HAPPENS to women, especially young single women.
Lynn for Governor... NOW!
@9:43 I assume they will just go to a state where abortion is legal. The Supreme Court decision does not ban abortion it just defers to the states as to whether or not abortion is legal in that state.
Just heard it on CNN: is dead. We’ve gathered under the kitchen table here, quaking in fear, wondering what could possibly happen next.
9:43 AM
Hopefully they'll be moving to blue states.
@943; See we missed our meds again.
I agree this will stop the deaths of millions of unwanted babies. We will now have the births of millions of unwanted babies. So let's get ready for the challenges they will bring. Or will this be easy?
It’s not about women or babies or fetuses or whatever.
It’s about control.
You no longer have it.
I pray for the estimated 63 million babies that never had a chance at life. I pray Thanks to God for the decision about abortions being returned to the States. I pray for the women and children who will need extra care in States where abortions will no longer be allowed. I pray for our State leaders as they decide on how that extra care will be provided. Today, I will rejoice.
Get ready for the decision banning contraception next.
We’ll be back to good ole abstenence or pulling out. I guess I’ll just cheat on my three wives with porn stars and have 5 kids from three different women and hold a Bible upside down in front of a church I’ve never stepped foot in and the Christians will praise me blindly as the second coming.
Stare decisis is dead. Elections (Trumps) have consequences.
@9:43 AM screeched and cried when Hillary lost. He maybe even pulled his hair out. Too bad for you, supporter of killing unborn babies.
The abortion travel industry is about to be a big business-
Looting, church and birthing center burning in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1... Afterall, looting makes all things better, right?
I guess this decision will lead to peacefully burning down the Supreme Court building?
Looking at the list of other countries who have outlawed abortion makes it clear that Mississippi is a 3rd world wannabe. Get ready for the Christian elders to start enforcing their will on women further. It’s a sad day for America.
@9:48, Lynn didn't do anything but have a photo shoot. She didn't write the bill or litigate the case.
@9:43
They can do the same thing dumb sluts used to do. Find a not-so-handsome dork with a job and MARRY HIM before her belly shows!
Suddenly NO MORE incels and mass shootings!
Praise God for this moment and for President Trump and his justices! Life wins!
The Supreme Court vote was clearly rigged. I heard the Pope used Italian satellites to change the vote tally. We need to send an alternate vote result to the Supreme Court and then storm the court and submit our alternate vote. Kamala should have the power to decide this.
Shithole country stays confirmed. Thanks Don John.
Hallelujah! Praise Donald Trump ...and Jesus!
Standing by for "mostly peaceful" looting and birthing center arson. This will be a long hot weekend. I imagine the SCOTUS justices have already been moved to a safe place, via an Andrews Air Force Base jet. Aruba? Dominica? St. Kitts? Necker Island?
The baby killing progressives will soon be complaining about "hanging chad" at SCOTUS.
Full on orange clown world.
Russia just needs to start the nuclear war so we can just end this madness.
"Kamala should have the power to decide this." said no one with at least two brain cells ever.
Why have you not read it? It is only 213 pages long?
Just as the founders intended. Never leave the 16th century.
Decisions overturning the 13th and 19th amendments soon to come.
Glory Hallelujah!!!
Justice Thomas remarks on other cases that need to be reconsidered and “error corrected” are compelling.
We don’t need no stinkin democracy, the wise Trump appointees have spoken.
No law is ever going to stop abortions. We'll just have to start an abortion travel fund. North Carolina and Kansas both have open access to abortions. I would never have a baby by a rapist and I wouldn't expect any other woman to do it either.
What’s the fuss, get an education, job and then family with kids if you want. If you get pregnant without the aforementioned order you pay for it yourself.
Stop having sex if you can’t afford to have kids. The government has no say if you pay for your own health care.
I know there are circumstances as rape where you wouldn’t want to carry.
I don’t think the government would get in your personal lives if you paid for it without their help/funding!
Don’t create a problem that you can’t handle that the government has to tell you what to do!
And the brain-drain drops into high gear and enters warp speed. I can't wait to see these red states in 10 years, too toxic for anyone capable of thinking for themselves. But you all will pray about it in the mean time, right?
So Kavanaugh claimed this was settled law when he was trying to get appointed and suddenly had a change of heart. What a lying piece of shit. If you are thinking of selling your house, I would act quick, the market is about to be flooded as ever person under 40 flees this abomination
Birth control is next.
Most of the people commenting don't have a clue as to what this means. It takes the abortion decision from the Federal Courts and puts it back to states decision. In this case, Mississippi was banning abortions after 15 weeks except in the case of rape, incest, or medical conditions. It's not full on black or white, yes or no. Abortion was never a constitutional right as Roe V Wade suggested.
Christian Trad Wives +1
Demonic pregnant harlots -1
I guess they'll have to start actually planning parenthoods instead of killing babies.
So, now that we can finally force a woman’s body to save a life against her will, let’s work on the next steps:
1. Make everyone automatically an organ donor. It’s to save lives, so the will of any objector can and should be dismissed.
2. Make everyone a mandatory blood donor. It’s to save lives, so the will of any objector can and should be dismissed.
3. Make everyone a mandatory kidney, liver, bone marrow donor. It’s to save lives, so the will of any objector can and should be dismissed.
The number of abused children is about to be on the rise. I will pray for all these unwanted children because they will not be treated well. I can't get over the fact that the Supreme Court couldn't make me take a vaccine, but they can make me carry a baby in my stomach for nine freaking months while having swollen feet, hemmoroids, and puking half the day while the baby's father just breeze through with no complications but to listen to me complain. This is just another way to keep women in bondage, much like men who design women's sky-high heeled shoes.
i hope all the bible thumpers are signing up to support forced birth babies to age 18 .....
Now that killing the unborn is prohibited, how about a law to make these thousands of baby-daddies pay up?
The democrats just got a winning ticket for 2024.
Ok 9:43. Quit being ignorant and read the opinion and MS's trigger law. Takes effect on ten days. Abortion still allowed in the event that the mothers life is in jeopardy (paraphrasing). Don't jump without looking.
We therefore hold that the Constitution does not confer a right to abortion.
Only 50 years to realize that killing the most innocent for contraception is not "a right." That's what scares you the most.
@10:37
You clearly either never took (passed?) a basic government course or have remained woefully ignorant of the facts surrounding this case/opinion.
The ruling here actually allows local democracy to prevail. Both Roe and Casey took democracy and slaughtered it. At least - now - states have the ability to decide (though a form of democracy) how abortion should or should not work.
You should go check out the 10th Amendment.
10:45 - you don’t have a clue! The trigger law will Vick in immediately, not the 15 week law!
Yes 11:08. Talk about Bible thumpers (which is offensive), democrats will have an agenda for 2024. It says "we need to vote to kill", in direct conflict of "Thou shall not kill". Great selling point. Already the party of immorality, Ted Kennedy style murders, Clinton blue dresses, and sleeping with Chinese Spies.
It will increase marriages and recreate traditional family values.
This will put practical limits on young people having casual sex with no concern about the consequences.
It will make those pregnant girls think twice about aborting their unwanted child.
It will initiate an overwhelming flood of adoptions of unwanted minority children by the pro-life advocates especially in the south.
It will make those absent fathers step up to the plate and take care of their children.
States like Mississippi will provide the additional funding needed especially for education and pre/post natal care for the additional children
Crime will decrease because these children will now be raised in functional households not in the streets.
The world will finally realize that we are all brothers and sisters and there will be peace and love and a year long tax holiday. COUNT ON IT.
Fight for Your Right To Kill a Baby. A made up right, where the baby does not even have a right to live. Think about that. Talk to a 5 year old.
Instead the MSM decided to write opinion pieces on Father's Day exclusively touting how "abortion is the best thing ever!"
It's been 50 years of barbarism, and the Left doubled down and said a 35 week healthy baby could be aborted. Think about that.
"@943; See we missed our meds again."
No, it happened to me, and I know of 5 others. Some people being thrown out of the house at 17 or 18 don't have anywhere to go or money to do anything..
Okay 10:54. Ever hear about abstinence? Works every time it's tried. Just because you wanted sex...don't flop around in the mud and not expect to get dirty. If you don't want a baby, then stop sleeping around.
@11:22 AM - That is unfortunate, but how does that justify the killing of millions of unborn babies? I certainly support a safety net for teen pregnancies, and for the sperm donor to be held financially responsible.
NOW, if you are a true Christian, and not just sounding brass, the REAL work begins!
This will change again once enough democrats are on the Supreme Court. It’s no different than congress now. Fire up a new Underground Railroad, it’s needed once again.
@11:22
So you are one of those looney libs who thinks there should never be any consequences for your actions? I am assuming that the same parents who threw you out taught you to not risk immoral pregnancy outside of marriage. You did it anyway. So they kept their promise to free you from their rules and support. Free to deal with your consequences on your own.
People like you are the reason cities like Jackson are a shithole. Not people like the justices who overturned Roe v Wade.
I assume Tate will now call a special session to have the legislature expand Medicaid, and provide more funds for Pre K and K-12 education and other programs to help children. As this great victory for life won't mean much if after the fetus is born, there is no help. But I'm sure Tate and Co. will do these things to help, because otherwise, it would make their "Life is precious and must be preserved" stance a complete joke and nothing more than a way to get the rubes wound up.
I wouldn’t be so excited if I was a conservative. Taking away constitutional rights is a slippery slope. I’m guessing the left may have something to say about that 2nd amendment now that the gloves are off.
The loss of control is when you have unprotected sex, and after the fact have to seek the control to abort the inconvenient outcome. Now, it will still be possible, but likely less convenient -- especially, if you did nothing about it the first trimester.
Looking on the bright side, I can’t imagine ISIS or the Taliban will want to attack us now that our ideologies are so similar.
The baby killers at Planned Eugenics, err Parenthood, are pulling their hair out and crying like when HRC lost to DJT. Too bad!
Agreed 11:08, the majority wants a women to have the right to choose. This is one women will not rest on until the conservatives on the court are gone. Given that so many are young, Republicans will be fighting for their lives at the polls for along time.
The liberals are puking all over this board.
The membership in the Democratic party is going to swell. Women are going to join and donate money. How ironic that women today have fewer rights than their mothers and grandmothers had.
I support mandatory vasectomies for every man who impregnates an unmarried woman. Without anesthesia.
@11:22 your response to 943 may have happened to you and your 5 others and maybe to others as well. When it does happen there seems to be other factors at play as well.
Up here in Canton, in my 25 years of being here, haven't heard of what 943 described as actually happening. Most of the cases are taken care of by families who may not be happy with the situation, but they adapt. That's what the right thing to do is.
https://www.wlbt.com/2022/06/24/watch-live-speaker-philip-gunn-responds-after-supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-wade/
Clarence Thomas says in his opinion today that he wants the court to look into the possibility of overturning:
Obergefell (same sex marriage)
Griswold (right to contraception)
Lawrence (right for same-sex sexual intercourse)
They are just getting warmed up, y'all.
The whole point is not abortion. It is constitutionality. Roe v Wade was never covered in the constitution; therefore, the decision belongs to the individual states. As to rape, incest or the life of the mother, the Mississippi law makes exception for those circumstances. What it does, is stops the use of abortion as birth control. There are many other forms of birth control that do not entail the ending of a life.
June 24, 2022 at 11:08 AM
Sorry to let you know that abortuon doesn't crack top 3 issues except for rad fems.
The baby killers at Planned Eugenics, err Parenthood, are pulling their hair out and crying ...
Don't worry, Michael Guest has their back.
@10:54 AM - In other words "we have to kill them to save them." Got it.
anyone saying that the 13th and 19th amendment is next, is one of two things. you're either ignorant as to how constitutional amendments are added/repealed, or you're a lying degenerate leftist. if you're ignorant, then educate yourself. if you're a lying degenerate leftist, there's not much hope for you.
screeching and wailing about the 13th and 19th amendments must come from your distorted belief that there was somewhere in the constitution a right for a woman to have her unborn baby killed. there never was a right to kill your unborn baby. not then, not now.
anyone screeching and wailing about contraception being outlawed is also either ignorant or a lying degenerate leftist. nowhere in this country, is any state going to even try to pass a law outlawing contraception. and anybody that even proposes it should and would be run out of office.
this ruling doesn't outlaw abortion, and you degenerate leftists know that.
instead of spending so much time, energy, money, and political capital making sure women can have their unborn babies ripped to pieces and vacuumed out, or partially birthed and stabbed in the back of the neck with scissors to sever the spinal cord, that you instead try to promote the use of contraceptives, marriage before children, and personal responsibility. imagine how much better society would be if that were the case.
@12:35 PM - exactly. Roe was a flawed decision 50 years ago. Most lawyers with half a brain would agree.
There is no RIGHT to an abortion.
This leaves it up to the states, and for true southerners, y'all ought to be embracing "states' rights."
SCOTUS is on a roll, and it's long overdue!
Where does this exception for rape or incest business come from? Abortion is abortion, killing is killing if the rationale is moral/religious and not political. A child of a rapist is still a child is it not? If there are exceptions, the prohibition means nothing. Thou shalt not kill (exceptions are political, economic, discriminatory or just plain cowardly) Which child is it OK to kill? So if you are pro-life be pro-life!
@12:51 PM - right on! In the long term the "marriage before children" would reduce the violent crime that we currently see in Jackistan.
Right now, all over this land, the righteous are rejoicing while the demons are screaming. The creatures you see protesting are not humans. They are merely earthly vessels for Lucifer and his rebellious army. God has defeated them before and will do so again. Praise Jesus!
Odin does not approve.
This decision answered two important questions:
1. How far the court will go to erode its own legitimacy;
2. Lynn Fitch is in fact safe, and not locked in Michelle’s basement
The last time I looked, there were/are interstate highways that connect 48 states. Many of those states will still allow a woman, that would be a birthing person for the ignorant liberals, to murder their unborn children.
In the words of the most famous Ray Charles, hit the road, Jacklyn, and don't ya come back no more.
1:02 I agree marriage before children would definitely reduce crime here in Jackson and everywhere but this ruling will not accomplish that. In fact there will now be more children born out of wedlock.
I'm anti-abortion but I'm also realistic.
Had congress pulled its head out of its ass and passed law protecting abortion this would not be an issue. Instead 50 years of shirking their political duty and relying on judicial activism to save it. The music has stopped. Time to do actual work....if you can.
If you are truly pro-life then you should be against abortion for rape cases too. After all a rapist’s child is also just a child. If you cannot stomach this then you are a hypocrite.
And the brain-drain drops into high gear and enters warp speed. I can't wait to see these red states in 10 years, too toxic for anyone capable of thinking for themselves. But you all will pray about it in the meantime, right?
Hell, even Tate Reeves kids will leave this state and head for greener pastures once they finish high school.
Its dumb ass policy like this that pushes the youngest and brightest out of this state
This place is so screwed and it's due to the politicians currently in office.
Forever 50th
ProLifers, on to abolish capital punishment! Who’s with me????
Tonight is going to be interesting. All the protests at the Supreme Court are peaceful now, but lots of cops in riot gear and snipers. Seems the police are gearing up for a war. Taking away rights from half the country isn’t going to be popular.
The pundits/talking heads and pols are burning up the ethernet and airways with this decision, and Joe Xiden has demanded that the Congress legislate Roe V. Wade.
Ah, Joe, that would be an unconstitutional statute. I wonder who is behind the curtain programming his presidential teleprompter, or "TOTUS" as it has been called (Teleprompter of the US)? Harris? Pelosi? Nobama? Rice?
1. Harris
2. Pelosi
3. Nobama
4. Rice
5. All of the above
@10:13 Ah, but that was in the days before DNA testing. "Mama's baby, daddy's maybe" was the old saying. Now the man has a right to know and a way to know as well.
June 24, 2022 at 3:02 PM; typical brain dead leftist retort. it's easy to be pro-life and pro-death penalty at the same time. you see, an unborn baby is not out there killing, robbing, and raping. they just laying in the womb, enjoying the warm squishiness. truly the most innocent of innocents.
those sentenced to death, by the courts and juries, are there because they have committed acts of violence against fellow human beings. and their actions were so bad, they were deemed to be no longer worthy of breathing.
there is no problem or internal conflict being pro-life and pro-death penalty. but you already know this, and think making some kind of snarky little comment, trying to paint us pro-lifer/pro-death penalty people as hypocrites is gonna work. it's not. save the unborn. execute those sentenced to death. i can be for both and still sleep at night.
There should be significant looting at major retail stores tonight in Chicago, SF, LA, etc. Afterall, looting makes all things right in the world, right?
This may be the right thing but the majority favor the right to an abortion. I am not sure about Mississippi but you will find out soon enough. More Women vote than Men already and trust me the majority want that right here in Mississippi just as much as any place else. Democrats will be making gains in all the population centers. The coast is going to be the first to turn. Walker just lost Georgia . Texas will fall in the next 2 cycles. North Carolina won’t be far behind either. The good thing for republicans is that they have successfully gerrymandered congressional seats so they should be able to block any pro abortion laws for the next 5 years or so. The Senate however is lost for the seeable future.
I hope Lynn Fitch is happy, now that she doesn’t have to worry about an abortion……anymore.
The party of AOC and Mad Maxine Waters is on full display on this message board. As the pro-abortion, anti-ruling comments prove, there's no shortage of ignorance.
4:22 the most organized leaders of the pro life movement ( the Catholic church) have a large problem with the pro death penalty stance at every turn. They have always and will always stand by the doctrine of Natural Birth to Natural Death. In the eyes of the church everyone is redeemable even abortionist.
11:55 is on the right track as to vasectomies, with the addition of the "sperm donor" having to pay for the baby he helped produce. And 5:48 must be one of the losers that Lynn beat.
Ds win senate with more and keep house
Bad day for R
Ds May start punishing MS and states which suck 3x than what they put in.
9:48
Lynn didn’t have much to do with it! It’s a bill form the Ms House of Reps and an outside Solicitor did all the lifting in DC .
If one more person suggest that marriage before pregnancy cuts down on crime, I'm going to puke. How is one related to the other? There is a real world out here, and you people need to join it. And by the way, just because I'm horny doesn't mean I want to be married. And, no, I will not stop having sex. I am not a priest!
All these people who are suggesting abstinence has obviously never had good sex.
Those predicting a blue wave are delusional. People will not choose $6.00 gasoline and exploding inflation just so they can have the "right" to murder an innocent child.
I don't gamble, but I'll take this red side of that bet versus a blue wave, any day. That will be easier money than printing cash in the basement.
In all of this tragedy let’s not forget to spare a thought for Dr Dobbs and the awkward conversations he’ll forever face at Mistletoe Marketplace.
First- this whole issue has always angered me because nobody was forced to have an abortion… It’s A matter of choice – sadly too many people were threatened by that. Second -What men and women and boys and girls in Mississippi need to do right now is learn how to NOT get pregnant… Boys and men should think about vasectomies… Girls and women think about tubal ligations… Everybody might think about pills, IUDs, condoms. Learn how to be smart instead of whining!
@10:46
You are consumed by demons and lack the self restraint of a dog.
it’s believed that common bastards, those born out of wedlock into fatherless homes, are the source of the majority of violent crime in Jackson and the other Urban shitholes in this country. Soon, bastards beget bastards until we are overruns by vain, violent unproductive sociopaths with extreme daddy issues raised by some of the most misanthropic women you can imagine.
I see from the comments, against the ruling, there are a lot of juveniles posting here.
Maybe Kingfish should restrict commenting to people with an emotional age past 13.
Let's see if I&R gets fixed because when it does, you know this will go on the ballot. Pro-choicers will have no problems getting funding to get the signatures. Don't be shocked if Gunn & crew figure out ways to sabotage fixing I&R
@10:46
No one cares if, when, who or what you have sex with. We just don't want producing more unwanted/uncared for children for society to have to deal with. Got it ?
8:13 women will gladly pay $6.00 Gas, for freedom. Its your money they are spending anyway.
Poll: Just 5% call abortion top concern
Even less of a concern, Bennie Thompson's select committee joke.
The left will self-immolate on this. Measured, well considered approaches to abortion with common sense restrictions that reasonable people can support will not be allowed by the far left. Any Democrat who wants to run a pro-abortion campaign will get eaten alive if their abortion support doesn't include full-stop abortion at any time, any trimester, for any reason including post-live birth abortion. Just watch.
Isn’t it ironic that at the same time the Supreme Court ruled on Roe v Wade, the Russian/Ukraine war virtually disappeared.
This will shrink the Republican base, you got your hand on some good weed, if you think otherwise.
@10:52
You left out the MAIN thing on the left's abortion wish list.... FREE ! They'll want the taxpayer (as usual) to pick up the tab for their lack of self control and taking personal responsibility
Note to self: Buy coat-hanger stock.
Bravo!
Already, our maternal death rate has far exceeded the single digit numbers in Europe. Here the rate is 14.6 per 100000 for women under 25,23.4 for women 25-39 and 108 for those over 40.
You old guys need to know that a woman often mistakes a pregnancy for menopause. You might not be done "providing".
We once had " homes for unwed mothers" so more families than some of you realize, successfully kept the teen pregnancy and adoption a secret.
The pregnant teen went to " help" a family member who was ill ( with or without her mother) or went to " boarding school and didn't like it or later went to a real one" or had a serious illness that lasted for months. How do so many of you miss the few stories of " moms" and "dads" whose adopted children have found them ? You also missed the stories of unknown siblings being revealed with the advent of DNA,too? The stories have an interesting twist or be reported voluntarily to to make the " news" and so are the tip of an iceberg!
You can no longer deny a teen father's paternity, just delay the support. So, I hope Pro-Lifers will first " legitimize" their grandchildren, then support their teen child parents with childcare and financially until they can support themselves and your grandchild. You will quickly learn the limitations and frustrations of " welfare" if you can't do that on your own. You will find your welfare myths busted. But, please don't pretend your family is on Social Security. Only aid to the disabled has that " cover" and the truth is the recipient hasn't worked enough , it's welfare.
If your daughter has foolishly tried to abort on her own or has a "high risk" pregnancy, don't be surprised if you have no future grandchildren. Puberty is not the same in every female nor do many teen mothers even recognize they are pregnant when prenatal care matters most.( see deaths in childbirth in European royal family lines before there were safe abortions). Indeed, many first pregnancies are naturally aborted or miscarried but your daughter may not recognize it and if any vestiges are left, she could sicken and die with your blissful ignorance.
If her boyfriend murders her instead of facing life long responsibility for her pregnancy, well, that is just a risk you take. The 20% of pregnant women who are murdered in the U.S. are counted separately.
Our legislature didn't write " good " legislation, they wrote ignorant legislation without the benefit of understanding the actual consequences.
Indeed, quite a few will be surprised that minorities will be having more children. The white babies expected will not be among the middle to upper middle class, it will be the lower classes. There won't be less welfare but more. You might should have considered the vaginal "wall" and not the impossible wall at our border!
When’s the pink building in Fondren going to be demolished? I can’t wait to be able to have a nice meal on Walker’s patio without thinking about the racist and human rights monstrosity occurring across the street.
Now that Dobbs’ name is on the Opinion that reversed Roe, will Mississippi conservatives finally forgive Dobbs for the unspeakable sin of [gasp] actually taking the pandemic seriously?
Or is he still “cancelled,” as y’all like to say?
Dear Immoral Evil Loving Leftist Democrats:
The SCOTUS ruling DOES NOT take away your right to murder a viable fetus i.e. fully developed human being. You just have to travel to an immoral state (or DC) that allows for late-term abortions with no state-imposed thresholds.
It appears Alaska, Colorado, DC, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, and Vermont should be able to help you out with your evil. And there are plenty of other states (probably half or so of the US) that will allow abortions until 20 to 28 weeks.
To the ill-informed that want to know what all the fuss is about, it’s the same ole “any excuse will do” for leftist Democrats to begin acting like spoiled 5 year old’s and start screaming lies, making threats and eventually turning to violence. It’s what Democrats do when they don’t get their way!
Like perverts, druggies etc., leftist Democrats want everyone to be in the gutter with them, and giving states the right to make their own choices on rights not granted in the constitution does not fit their “control you to be like them” objective.
Of course leftist Democrats have no problem at all with “their” states taking away your rights guaranteed in the constitution (free speech, right to keep and bear arms), as was the case in New York where just about only the rich and famous could get a carry permit.
America now see what’s it’s like to live in Mississippi that’s still stuck in the year 1952
The Supreme Court has spoken: Roe vs Wade has been overturned. There are those whose position on the abortion issue is laudable. They appear to have based their pro life stance on an authentic belief that life begins at conception, and it should have priority over the mother's decision to choose for herself whether she should carry the pregnancy to term. However,there are those who appear to base their vehement anti abortion advocacy on a hypocritical morality that allows them to tout concern for lives of the unborn, yet vilify the women who find themselves in challenging circumstances that force a difficult choice. And last, but not least are the politicians ---those who have simply decided that being pro life is a valuable, conservative sound bite that garners votes, and is means to a successful political end. They support and enact laws that cater to both groups, with no concern or compassion for the mothers of the unborn, they claim they are protecting. To all those claiming defense of the unborn, consider it your christian duty to extend some grace, compassion and resources to those women who must live with your choice that has been legally forced upon them. Its what Jesus would do.
That Supreme Court ruling is really eating you alive, go on, admit it.
Go ahead, lay on the floor, kick your heels, pound the floor with your little fist, and scream at the top of your lungs like you did when you were a toddler.
It worked back then, you had your way. They always surrendered to your will. Go ahead, it may work this time, also.
You may as well do it, in reality, you have been doing it on this board since Kingfish posted the article.
The unborn-baby killers in Washington, Oregon, Kalifornia, Colorado, NM, Minnesota, Illinois, and other states are smiling all the way to the bank. They will have a monopoly on the killing of the unborn and will be cashing in big time.
I would anticipate some new motels being built next to these butcher shops, discounted airfares, charter buses, online ordering, and all of the rest.
Cha ching!
The Supreme Court is no longer a legitimate institution. Thanks Donald. The founding fathers are rolling in their graves as the republicans assault everything they stood for.
We will see if religious liberty trumps the states’ rights. There is already a case in progress to test the new theories of the Republican Supreme Court.
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I wish.
Dying and going to heaven would be reincarnation as Beaver Cleaver and growing up in 1950s WASP suburbia with Ward and June Cleaver for parents and the healthy social order we had back then!
My granddaughters one 4 and the others unborn will live to see Mississippi overturn this law ! The will turn to progressives despite their conservative upbringing. They will not let anyone infringe on their rights. Their moms and grandma are pissed.
I asked for a lil loving and I was told to put rubber on it. I bet I am not the only who is going to hear it this weekend.
Orange clown voted in by clowns creates clown world. Imagine that.
Michael Guest tweeted his good wishes for the Ole Miss baseball team tonight. Nary a word about his thoughts on the Supreme Court decision.
At least the man states what is important to him in his job.
1) Guest's remarks about OM baseball are equally as irrelevant as would have been his opinion on the court's decision. Why would he choose the latter over the former?
2) The pansies are in full bloom on this one today and yesterday. What I can't figure is, other than those who will make political hay over the issue, why the hell do the rest of the moaner-crowd give a serious hoot about regarding abortion?
3) If they could only have kept Bader Ginsberg 'alive' with Febreeze for awhile longer.
you degenerate leftists squalling, screaming, wailing, crying, and rioting over the SCOTUS decision are doing so because you think you can no longer kill unborn babies. which you will still be able to, and depending on your employer or the state you choose to go to, it will be paid for for you. you're fighting and rioting to be able to kill unborn babies. kill. unborn. babies. that's about as degenerate as it can get. it's not women's health, it's not reproductive rights, it's not a woman's right to choose, it's not pro-choice. these are all fancy, warm and fuzzy buzz words to hide the fact you want to kill unborn, and in some states, full term babies. period.
if you degenerate leftists weren't so damn extreme, there may have been some common ground everyone could have agreed to. but you lied about wanting abortions to be safe, legal and rare. you just couldn't admit at the beginning what you really wanted, which is abortion on demand, at any time, for any reason. there are states right now that allow for abortions up to and including the birth of the baby. we're talking about full term, healthy babies being killed.
there is no right in the Constitution to kill unborn babies or to kill anyone else. there never was a "right." it was a "right" given by a liberal, activist, SCOTUS. all old white men, too. now you're all pissed off cause a black man, white men, and a white woman, said this should be left to the states. all SCOTUS did was return the decision to kill unborn babies back to the states, where it always belonged, where it already was, before Roe. this is federalism at its finest. SCOTUS didn't outlaw a damn thing. most of you leftists know this, but choose to ignore reality and push a degenerate agenda anyway.
your side is fighting to kill unborn babies. my side is fighting to protect unborn babies. and you call me an extremist??
you leftists calling for packing the supreme court are idiots. have you even bothered to think about this more than 1 step beyond packing the courts? let's say democrats do pack the courts to get a liberal majority. what happens when the republicans are in control of the house, senate, and white house? will you be screaming in favor of packing the courts then? i mean, you should at least give the appearance of being consistent.
once republicans are in control, they could then pack the courts to get a conservative majority, after the democrats packed the court to get a liberal majority. democrats pack the court, republicans pack the court, and on and on it goes, where it stops, nobody knows.
every indication is that the republicans will take the senate and the house in november. and based on the job potato joe and his entire administration is doing, republicans win the white house in 2024. i hope you are as excited about the possibility of packing the court then as you are now. cause any sane person would be against packing the courts, regardless of which party is in charge.
All of Mississippi's Congressional delegation have commented on the SCOTUS decision except Guest. Other than Guest, none of the rest of the congressmen have commented on Omaha.
Hoddy Toddy! Guest has his priorities.
He sent out a press release. I didn't post any but for the Governor's that day because as you can imagine, they were all sending them out.
Today, Congressman Michael Guest (MS-03) released the statement below praising the Supreme Court’s decision to uphold the Mississippi law restricting abortion in the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization case and returning to the states the right to protect the life of an unborn child.
“After almost 50 years justice has been realized, and our nation celebrates a momentous win for the pro-life movement. For decades, millions of Americans have advocated for the right to life of our unborn children following the misguided Roe v. Wade decision; but today, the voices who speak for the voiceless have been heard. As a pro-life Representative for the people of Mississippi, I am proud that Mississippi led the charge in overturning Roe, and I will continue to defend the lives of the unborn through my work in Congress.”
Congressman Guest, in coordination with Republican Members of the Mississippi Congressional Delegation and the House Pro-Life Caucus, helped lead the amicus brief in support of Mississippi’s pro-life law before the Supreme Court. The bicameral amicus brief was signed by more than 200 Members of Congress.
Congressman Guest also addressed the Department of Homeland Security memo outlining the potential for violence following the Supreme Court decision.
“DHS must be ready to assist local law enforcement in protecting the lives and property of innocent Americans from violent extremism. Those who wish to cause harm to the American people or disrupt the peaceful judicial process through intimidation and violence must be held accountable for their actions. As Vice Ranking Member of the Committee on Homeland Security, I stand ready to assist law enforcement and government agencies quell any violence in response to this decision. Under no circumstances will violence towards Supreme Court Justices, elected officials, or the pro-life community following these decisions be tolerated.”
On June 16, 2022, Congressman Guest sent a letter to DHS Secretary Mayorkas expressing concern with these threats against churches and other pro-life institutions and requesting a briefing on the Department’s actions to prevent such attacks. Below is an excerpt from the letter:....
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