Tuesday, March 29, 2022

Dr. Williams Resigns

 Jackson City Engineer Dr. Charles Williams submitted his resignation today.  The former interim Public Works Director will leave the city’s employment on April 29.  Best wishes to a man who had a thankless job.  

50 comments:

Anonymous said...

Had to be the bad batch of chemicals.

Anonymous said...

I hate for him to leave. He was the only one in Jackson city government that had any sense at all. He will be missed.

Anonymous said...

How do y'all reckon the want ad will read for this job?

Anonymous said...

He was the best they had. He was the cream of the crop. Having said that, he was still incompetent. However, if he goes to the right place, he can probably learn, and be trained, and do a good job. At Jackson he was simply the tallest midget.

Anonymous said...

He appeared to be a really good guy caught up in a trap developed by a worthless Jackson bunch of ne’er do wells, elected and paid for by the Jackson city taxpayers. He will land on his feet and be able to sleep again. Thanks for your unappreciated service. Maybe he is lucky enough to move some where with running clean water and flushable toilets.

Anonymous said...

6:30, I dealt with him, and he was far from incompetent. And kudos to him for having sense to jump off a sinking ship.

As a side note, I’m not a fan of people using “doctor” in a non-medical or non-academic environment. But that may be a cultural thing.

City Engineer Vacancy Announcement said...

HIRING: City Engineer for the City of Jackistan
-Must be a person of color matching the dominant ethnicity of the city.
-Must genuflect before His Majesty the Mayor.
-Regardless of the facts must agree with His Majesty the Mayor in all instances.
-When His Majesty the Mayor says "right?," you must immediately respond "right."
-Must show proof of voting for His Majesty the Mayor in the two previous elections.

Anonymous said...

They had a good man but pushed him out because he was white and knew what he was doing. He was crazy for coming here to begin with. I don’t hold much faith nor
Never did with this current, soon to be former director

Anonymous said...

Zzzzz.

Anonymous said...

Question for KF, if you know, what is the ballpark salary of a city engineer in Jackson, Mississippi?

Anonymous said...

LOL he got out as soon as his pension got right and I don't blame him. Agree w/ 6:30. Safe to predict his replacement will NOT be a PhD PE.

Anonymous said...

The first one to act always gets the best deal. Looking at you Kishia Powell.

Anonymous said...

7:16 - His "Pension" will be PERS retirement when qualified, IF in fact he's vested. I was just wondering if he is. How long has been a state/municipal/covered employee?

Several references to 'color'. What color IS he, and why does it matter?

Anonymous said...


"Anonymous Anonymous said...
As a side note, I’m not a fan of people using “doctor” in a non-medical or non-academic environment. But that may be a cultural thing.

March 29, 2022 at 6:43 PM

Only doctors should use the term. Educatators, certainly shouldn't use the term, PhD is more fitting, but nothing is worse the dentists and preachers using it.

Anonymous said...

Held on by his fingernails for 20. Wonder what he knows...

Anonymous said...

https://govsalaries.com/williams-jr-charles-103241153

Anonymous said...

@6:43. I prefer people in that position who put in more hours. It is rare to get 40 hours out of Charles. I expect at least 50 in that role. We can agree to disagree. But it’s fact that Charles knew how to disappear while on the clock.

Anonymous said...

Jackson just dropped another notch.
Even immigrant's crossing the border know Not to come to Jackson.

Anonymous said...

I've always thought he was the only sane one in that "Loo-mamba" clique.

I'm surprised he stuck around as long as he did.

Anonymous said...

When you get upset about something that somebody posts on JJ, just realize their are morons on here that think Williams is white. Pushed out because he is white. That’s funny.

Anonymous said...

Also from that "government salaries" website for him:

"This salary is 287 percent higher than average and 296 percent higher than median salary in City of Jackson."

Good Lord the disparity.

Anonymous said...

8:27 - It really doesn't matter what you prefer in positions over which you have no supervisory authority or direct interest.

I sense you're not familiar with the terms exempt and non-exempt as relate to the Fair Labor Standards Act and employee classification. Read up, if interested.

Get on to work now...so you can refresh that Cup-O-Joe and hang out in the break room until three minutes after the bell rings.

Anonymous said...

The standard is that "Dr." shall only used by someone with a "terminal doctoral degree."

He is pulling down $128,000 a year. That's big money for Jackistan. It's likely that he also drives a city ride, right?

Anonymous said...

This guy knew his stuff. He will be missed.

Dalton said...

"Pushed out"? The man was a bouncer at The Dock for years. He ain't getting pushed around by nobody.

Anonymous said...

I bet those who oppose the use of the term "doctor" to refer to those who have doctoral degrees, don't have one themselves.

Also, the difference between "Doctor" and "Ph.D." is not one of degree or qualification, but of who is using the term.

Persons holding the degree write their name without "Doctor," but with "M.D.", "Ph.D.", etc. after the name. People who speak to those people call them "Doctor."

But most importantly, it matters not a whit what the uneducated masses prefer. Folks with doctoral degrees are still doctors.

Anonymous said...

Smart to get out. HE was another DEPT HEAD that was making 70 % more than his help. He gets to slither out in the highest tier. Much like many local city and county emps. Not saying they shouldn't make the money but it should be fair. So if you are "the help" it's public information to find out what the boss is making. Some are pushing six figures with barely any time in the books while you are having to work two jobs !

Anonymous said...

I did a lot of work with the City. Charles was always a voice of reason.
He has been the spokesman for a city that has lots of infrastructure issues.
The salary they paid him wasn’t enough.
He was on the news being interviewed every time something broke in the city- which was often.
Jackson is going to have a very difficult time replacing him.
Hope he enjoys retirement or his next job.
Job well done Charles.

Anonymous said...

Best of luck with your new endeavors.

Anonymous said...

Now all of you experts can step up and show us all how it's done.

Anonymous said...

Least he could do is some scortched earth on the way out. Name names if he wasn't the problem.

Anonymous said...

@9:51am - Easy to be anonymous complainers. None of them would ever step up and actually do any real work.

Anonymous said...

I think a PHD PE is an equal terminal degree to a MD unlike the brigade of made up soft science "doctors" that infest Jacksin leadership.

Anonymous said...

"I think a PHD PE is an equal terminal degree to a MD unlike the brigade of made up soft science "doctors" that infest Jacksin leadership. "

They are awarding PhDs in Phys Ed now? What's next - a Nobel Prize in jockstrap design?

Kingfish said...

So why did he retire? Is something coming down the turnpike and he said I'm getting out of the way? How often was he forced to go along with the Mayor's coverups such as the EPA order, electrical panels, and the November water crisis and he said enough is enough. Or maybe he is just plain burned out. It's a thankless job and he can only do so much.

The People said...

Bring Willie Bell! Willie! Willie! Willie! Willie!

Anonymous said...

10:55 : Dude is being paid MORE than any elected county official. That kind of money is hush money KF. 128,000 !! Is that more than just about everybody?

Anonymous said...

Dear Maroon @11:42: um, no. And note the difference between a City official and a County official. Just because both words start with the same letter doesn't mean they're the same.

Anonymous said...

Hail STATE 12:01 ? Dr. Williams I presume ? 128,000 to spend 4 to 5 hours of your day at home is suhweet !

Kingfish said...

Overpaid? Seriously? If anything, the opposite.

Anonymous said...

There is not enough money to cover what this man endured. He was the Public Works Director and the sorry mayor did not re-appoint him. He did return to his former position as City Engineer. So basically he was de-moted, yet stayed on and did the same job. Power play for the mayor. I'm sure he didn't like being challenged by someone who knows more than he does.

Anonymous said...

Most engineers are exempt from working overtime & are not allowed to be paid. This is standard in the job description as they are licensed ‘ required to take refresher courses every 2-4 years I believe. That salary may sound like a lot but is Actually low compared to private sector( especially ) being a department head.

Anonymous said...

FYI. Keisha Powell was paid $150K per year. Yeah Dr. Williams probably made $128K while he was "director" as that is I believe what they paid Robert Miller. I believe his salary was reduced when he went back to City Engineer only.

Anonymous said...

I know him as a very smart, dedicated, devoted public servant who worked over and above the requirements of the job. He was/is immersed in trying to fix issues that have beleaguered the City of Jackson and its citizens for decades. There is no amount of money that would be adequate for the job. And, BTW, just because you didn’t find him sitting at a desk, or putting out cones does not mean he wasn’t working. Good job, Dr. Williams. Very proud of you.

Anonymous said...

All I know is there was this part that wasn't ordered for 9 months and we can all agree that The Mayor wasn't in charge of ordering said part. He is resigning as the shit hits the fan. As I said, justify it by name dropping .

Anonymous said...

Good luck finding a more competent, licensed PE to replace Williams.

Mississippi, let alone Jackson, isn't high on anyone's list of places to relocate unless you pay them a king's ransom. Don't believe me, ask MDOT how well they are doing in backfilling the exodus of their top engineers.

Anonymous said...

The 'put up or shut up' crowd asking for folks to apply are amusing.

So the Licensed PE's who know how to fix this just OWE Jackson their expertise, right?
Just to prove it to y'all?

That is not how it works.

There is not a high enough salary, or an I-told-you-so moment grand enough to be worth taking this job, while y'all keep electing incompetent buffoons who seem to thrive on making every city task difficult and inefficient.

Anonymous said...

He knows what is coming.

Class lawsuit against Jackson water drinking system.

Recall the Mayor.

Anonymous said...

Let me put it like this on a scale of 1-10 (10 being the highest, 1 being the lowest).

Charles Williams was a 5, maybe a 6. Nothing special, not exceptionally hard working, not greatly competent. However, he had some skills, was a good person, and was far better than the 1's, 2's, and 3's he worked with. I also think he had a desire to do the right thing, the right way. In his defense, it's hard to get anything done when you work with clowns.

There are plenty of folks in the 7-10 range who would be an improvement over Charles. But those folks aren't going to accept the job. They would laugh if Lumumba called them.

Odds are, they will replace Charles with a 2 or 3, which will be a downgrade.

Anonymous said...

I hate to see him go. He was the only one who had any sense. I wish he would run for mayor of Jackson!


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