Thursday, August 19, 2021

Garbage Contract Rejected Again

Update: City Council rejects contract on same 4-3 vote. 

Will the Jackson City Council pass the FCC garbage contract today? Will Jackson go to once a week garbage pickup? Who will get the DBE grub? Can we get monogrammed special garbage cans? And what does all of this have to do with the One Lake Plan.  Watch the debate streamed below.


Notes: 

* Citizens will be able to use other containers if they have overflow. 

* Contract amount is reduced from $10.9 million to $10.4 million.  However, that does not include the $3 million for garbage bin. 

* Solid waste division is currently funded at $4 million but it needs $6.3 million to be fully funded.  $21 per month will cover the current budget, $35 per month will fully fund sanitation services. 

*  Council rejects the contract on a 4-3 vote along the same lines. 

* Stokes moves to accept second lowest contract for twice a week service.   It died for lack of a second. 

* The City Council voted to hire Phelps Dunbar to investigate the alleged misappropriation of funds by the Director of Constituent Services.


48 comments:

Anonymous said...

RFID garbage cans that connect to broken water meters is the future in Jackistan.

Burke said...

Praise be. If Virgi voted "yes" she ignored her constituents.

Anonymous said...

Good to see at least 4 members of the council unwilling to take the dirty money for this.

Anonymous said...

I hope this means this garbage proposal is dead, dead, dead.

Anonymous said...

Antar probably has some explaining to do to the FCC brass. He almost certainly assured them everything was in order, and it's likely that assurance came with a price.

Anonymous said...

What per cent of Jacksonian’s actually pay their garbage pick up fees, or is that information not available.

Anonymous said...

Probably a dumb question, but what happens when the current Waste Management contract expires on Sept. 30th and no new contract is in place? Does garbage just not get picked up at all in Jacktown?

I Want a Stokes Hat said...

Grind up the old containers and use the results to fill up potholes and Baby Mayor Chowke's pie hole. Win/win

Anonymous said...

Good but what is this...?

* The City Council voted to hire Phelps Dunbar to investigate the alleged misappropriation of funds by the Director of Constituent Services.

Yo Chowke, too f'ing bad said...

Want to bet that Baby Chowke is fuming right now; like those precious moments when Hillary was told that she lost the election?

Anonymous said...


Embarrassingly stupid proposal. Pleasantly surprised it didn't pass.

Anonymous said...

Again, Kenny Stokes being at TWO city council meetings should tell you something. Man doesn’t show up for any work sessions and barely for council but came to vote on a contract and left right after? Something smells funny.

Krusatyr said...

KingFish thank you for highlighting this important issue: you surely inspired many emails to defeat Boy Mayor's garbage contract defeat.

Personally, I am pleased with WM's courteous, dependable service and will tip them more for Christmas.

Meanwhile, Charles Williams, P.E.phd, would be an excellent mayor because:
1. He knows all the infrastructure problems in Jackson;
2. He could sell off Jackson owned real estate and start collecting unpaid City bills to fix the problems;
3. He's courageous enough to stand up to political pu$$ies like the Boy Mayor.

Anonymous said...

It is nice to see the Marxist Elite lose and the people win.

Anonymous said...

4:53 - you have been sold a bill of goods on Dr.Williams.

Yes, he is basically a good many.
No, he is a terrible manager - as Director of PW (granted, it was intended to be a short term promotion) he couldn't manage.
Yes, he is a good engineer. (Management and Engineering skills are far different, kinda like lawyering and managing are diefferent.
Maybe, he knows the infrastructure problems in Jackson but other than those dealing with streets and bridges he doesn't give a damn about them. Water & sewer, and by extension garbage, are out of his bailiwick and out of his mind's eye.
He has hardly ever stood up to the boy Mayor, but obviously has you fooled. Guess being able to fool part of the masses is part of what would make one a good politician, but not necessarily a good Mayor. Example: Lumumba

Anonymous said...

I'm willing to bet the Lil'boy mayor is throwing a "hissy fit" in breakfast room bout'now.

BTW, I loved how Stokes walked out when Antar started his usual yapping.

Anonymous said...

M-Bar folks going to be mad about this !!

Anonymous said...

Stokes!!! Crazy like a fox…

Deep Throat said...

I know for a fact that the mayor used this process to butter his own bread. My contact is his BFF and on the city payroll too. It was all about the fundraising. ChokeUp openly solicited money from the trash companies. It would be interesting if someone could find out about the large donations from that PAC. I would think the council can bluntly ask the company reps if they or anyone in their company donated to ChokeUps campaign.

Anonymous said...

Will the tyrant demand another vote until he gets what he wants?

Anonymous said...

Thank goodness for everything JJ did to highlight the fraud & corruption of "Lying Lumumba" - as Stokes calls him - & the FCC proposal.

Theca Jones of the Roguish Gent Podcast said...

Jamie, why didn't you come? It was open to the public. You're a journalist I thought.

Anonymous said...

Will the the baby mayor have to pay back the bakseesh, or will he be sleeping with the fishes in the Rez?

I predict that he will try to shut down garbage service as a payback.

Anonymous said...

Belhaven Virgi voted with the Mayor. she needs to go...the Peter Principle has caught up with her.

Krusatyr said...

@ 5:22pm
You may know Charles Williams' skill set better than I, but he solved a City water problem for my property immediately yesterday when the rest of the City had ignored a phone call, an email and two physical letters over two weeks.

I have the impression that he is a responsible adult who understands Public Works problems and gets things fixed when he has the budget and power to do so. He also claims to love Jackson.

Anonymous said...

Thank you KF for alerting us to this trash collection corruption! The M Bar owners wife donation to baby choke - $10,000 campaign donation and her association with the proposed trash company was never mentioned on WLBT unless I missed it!

Anonymous said...

3:31
Yes!!!! I agree!!! What is that about?????

Kingfish said...

From the Life of Marius:

We are told that Publius Silo,[35] who had the greatest authority and power among the enemy, once said to him, “If thou art a great general, Marius, come down and fight it out with us”; to which Marius answer, “Nay, but do thou, if thou art a great general, force me to fight it out with you against my will.”

Anonymous said...

Krustyar, ok - he solved your problem yesterday - that "THE REST OF THE CITY" had ignored for two weeks.

Just who do you think "THE REST OF THE CITY" is, when it comes to dealing with a water problem.

Williams was in charge for those entire two weeks, just as he was in charge when the treatment plant failed due to inattention to details and maintenance. He was in charge when he cussed out the employees for not doing their job, but didn't do a damn thing about their not doing their job for months prior to the failure.

Yes, he has a tough job, just as the past PW director did - working with a Mayor who is unhinged half the time, with a city council that doesn't provide adequate funds for the department (while of course making sure their favorite gospel awards ceremony, or fireworks show, or community park celebration gets their holy water sprinkled on their purse). But that's life in the fast lane of this wonderful city's operations. He has failed to get along with the last three public works directors, we'll have to see how he does with the incoming.

Don't disagree with the fact that he adds value to the current administration, but I'm far from ready to even think about your suggestion that he has any of the qualities required of a good Mayor. But - since it has been so long since we have had a good Mayor maybe its just hard for some to conceive of what values would be good to possess.

Anonymous said...

Methinks a future Stokes presser may be in the works.

Same plastic chairs,
Same street, same trains in the background.

But a once a week garbage pick-up in a Mississippi Summer will be 10x worse than a winter Jackson toilet water issue.

Smells like "Boo Boo" will be an understatement.

Anonymous said...

Twice a week pickup in Clinton costs 16.50 but we pay our water bill, so that might matter.

Anonymous said...

Yall are all missing the grand scheme that Chockwe has pulled here. He first got into the FCC pockets, but then converted by dropping this on the council at the last minute, pretending to be pushing the FCC deal (gotta earn your pay, yah know) but by putting FCC into the middle of a political fight he insured that Waste Management will now be able to conjure up whatever deal they want to continue picking up garbage after September 30th.

Listen to his response when asked - he, in a tone unusual for Hizzoner (quite and mild) just noted that Waste Management will have the upper hand in the negotiations.

So, problem solved. He 'tried' to take care of his MBar buddy but kicked him to the curb at the last minute. He 'tried' to cut the deal for his newfound Texas buddies at FCC but failed, while all along he was working with Waste Management to get them an even better deal since the city has to now 'negotiate' with them on doing something to get the garbage (the garbage in the cans, not the garbage hanging out on High Street at the car wash) off the streets in six weeks.

He wins all around, and Stokes thinks he won. What a country!!!

Lt. Col. Frank Slade said...

never thought id type this by stokes for mayor. at least he cares more about the city than his personal wealth....and that my friends is called integrity...leadership...and that's what leaders should be made of....

Lt. Col. Frank Slade US Army

Anonymous said...

Yea, would also like more on that Phelps Dundar note
And anyone else catch multimillion "Project X" on news tonight?
ARPA $ gonna be completely wasted
Farish street reno part 4 is it?

Anonymous said...

10:20 pm

It’s people like you who posit insane conspiracy theories that some people believe.

People…the mayor does not know how to play 6 dimensional chess….he can barely write a paragraph in a legal motion.

The mayu pushed for this and he got steam rolled because it’s less service for 2x the money.

What you need to ask is what does Lindsey owe the mayu? Her people told
Her to vote against this graft and she supports it 💯. She will not ever hear the end of this.

Anonymous said...

Virgi is the best reason to vote against the CID. It is an insidious wealth extraction that will harm, not help, our neighborhood in the long run.

Anonymous said...

What you need to ask is what does Lindsey owe the mayu? Her people told
Her to vote against this graft and she supports it 💯. She will not ever hear the end of this.


She spit in the face of the voters.

Anonymous said...

Aren't most garbage companies ran by the mafia? He may be playing with Tony Soprano. We could only be so lucky.

Anonymous said...

@ 8:23

I agree... folks in my neighborhood tried to get in contact with her about this. It seemed as though she had already made up her mind. The mayor tells her what to do. Unfortunately for her, our ward quietly pays attention to most of EVERYTHING she has been doing. No need for a town hall. She's more than likely out next term. They will be grooming folks to succeed her.

Anonymous said...

So what is this about?

"The City Council voted to hire Phelps Dunbar to investigate the alleged misappropriation of funds by the Director of Constituent Services."

Who is or was the Director? Director is not listed on their webpage.
https://www.jacksonms.gov/constituent-services/

Anonymous said...

Have you ever wondered what effect "non-anonymity" would have on internet "Comments"? Even requiring consistent use of a screen name might produce a better quality of debate. Sure wish the Kingfish would experiment with this idea.

Anonymous said...

I assume $4 mil is 58% collection rate. Guess what, 90% collection rate is $6.2 million. The city should not raise any rates until they get the collection rate up to 90%.

Anonymous said...

It sure didn’t take His honor, the mayor to leave after he lost the vote.

Indian giver said...

I hope the Mayors sister didn’t make any premature large purchases

Cynical Sam said...

Will the Boy Mayor lose his deposit on the Redneck Riviera condo? Asking for a friend.

Anonymous said...

"It sure didn’t take His honor, the mayor to leave after he lost the vote."

He walked out shortly after Stokes left.

(This boy mayor seemed to be very unhappy for some reason)

Anonymous said...

Thank you KF for blogging about this. I live in Jackson and hadn't heard a peep about it. Another thank you to the poster who provided the councilpeople's email addresses. I was able to share my opinion with mine before the vote.

The service from Waste Management has been excellent and I hope their contract is renewed. Non paying customers should be cut off, not subsidized by the few of us who are still paying our bills.

I never thought I'd say this, but I would honestly vote for Kenneth I. Stokes for mayor at this point. I'm not a fan of the racial rhetoric, but he's head and shoulders above the Little Lord Fauntleroy that holds the office now.

Kingfish said...

Rejected your comment because the amount was wrong.


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